King Tendulkar Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 He is slow now. Not much swing or seam movement either. Scrambled seam. Does not get sufficient bounce compared to his height. Bad bowler. Agree always used to have scrambled seam. no movement etc etc Was always rubbish but at least was rubbish at 85 mph (well that speed at least for first few overs when fresh) But now starts of at 80 mph and goes sub 80 straight away!!
express bowling Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 His bowling action is completely messed up. There is no front foot block or arm delay in his action which used to give him extra pace. What is the bowling coach doing ? When a bowler deviates from what he used to do when he bowled well then I would expect the coach to try and rectify it. Otherwise, what is his role and job ?
rkt.india Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 What is the bowling coach doing ? When a bowler deviates from what he used to do when he bowled well then I would expect the coach to try and rectify it. Otherwise, what is his role and job ? These things take time to be worked upon and cannot be done during a series when you are playing match after match. A bowling coach does not have enough time to look at these things. At this level, In Indian team, he can only guide him about mental aspects and bowling plans. Bowler himself needs to realize this first and worm on these things at the nets in off season.
express bowling Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 Agree always used to have scrambled seam. no movement etc etc Was always rubbish but at least was rubbish at 85 mph (well that speed at least for first few overs when fresh) But now starts of at 80 mph and goes sub 80 straight away!! He is losing his abilities one by one 3 or 4 years back, his seam was not scrambled. He used to get seam movement and extra bounce. He lost that. His pace was 135 to 145 k. Then became 130 to 140 k. Then 127 to 137 k. Now 125 to 132 k. Soon he will be bowling 115 k. :cantstop:
express bowling Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 These things take time to be worked upon and cannot be done during a series when you are playing match after match. A bowling coach does not have enough time to look at these things. At this level' date=' In Indian team, he can only guide him about mental aspects and bowling plans. Bowler himself needs to realize this first and worm on these things at the nets in off season.[/quote'] He is not a person who uses his brains much. He himself said that he does not think much but just plays . So, not much chance of him working on his mistakes by himself. Needs the help of some good coach during the off season. Someone he will listen to.
express bowling Posted July 11, 2014 Author Posted July 11, 2014 After lunch, Ishant has bowled with much more effort than previous spells. Got his pace up to 132 to 138 k. Hit the deck harder and got bounce with seam movement. Why doesn't he do it more consistently ? If he can do it once, why not more often !!!!
Vilander Posted July 11, 2014 Posted July 11, 2014 Fastest ball delivered was 140 from Ishant 139 from Shami...very poor speeds not sure why.
King Tendulkar Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Ishant speed were better yesterday, at least was in 82 to 84 most of time
rkt.india Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Fastest ball delivered was 140 from Ishant 139 from Shami...very poor speeds not sure why. 138-139 was his average speed in SA and NZ and was bowling rather well too. Here he was nowhere close to that.
King Tendulkar Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 We are crying out for at least one fast bowler. Jeez everyone waffling on abpout needing 5 bowlers, for gods sake if going to play 5 bowlers at least pick one genuine express bowler. Adds vital pace and variation Yadav for example
BlueBee Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Aaron in for Binny for 2nd match would be good. Will add pace to the attack. Shami becoming a trundler, not fit enough. Brettcat 1
express bowling Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 Shami has looked unfit and heavier. This is the slowest I have seen him bowl. He had bowled 135 to 143 / 146 k in his 6 earlier tests. This test he has bowled 132 to 139 k in his earlier spells. Mostly bowled 128 to 136 k later on. Not impressive because this maybe linked to fitness. Ridgepi 1
JaiRamesh2 Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Pathetic pace from indian bowlers. They don't even have capacity of even short burst of pace. Complecent millionaire mofos BrantFUGH 1
mancalledsting Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Shami has looked unfit and heavier. This is the slowest I have seen him bowl. He had bowled 135 to 143 / 146 k in his 6 earlier tests. This test he has bowled 132 to 139 k in his earlier spells. Mostly bowled 128 to 136 k later on. Not impressive because this maybe linked to fitness. I'm scared that Shami has been promoted himself to our trundler legends club Ridgepi and Brettcat 1 1
express bowling Posted July 12, 2014 Author Posted July 12, 2014 The English are bowling 127 to 140 k mostly in the second innings. Archiemiz and BrantFUGH 1 1
Insidious Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Shami has looked unfit and heavier. This is the slowest I have seen him bowl. He had bowled 135 to 143 / 146 k in his 6 earlier tests. This test he has bowled 132 to 139 k in his earlier spells. Mostly bowled 128 to 136 k later on. Not impressive because this maybe linked to fitness. Shami is a kind of guy who adds on weight quickly if rested for a while. Thats why in one the interview he stated that he wanted to play as much matches as possible. He even featured in vijay hazare trophy despite the tight schedule, because he wanted to remain Fit. He got married recently, and i don't think he had practiced much in this gap, so he is now out of shape and quite bulky. I feared this can really hurt our chances in this series. We really want a fitter shami ASAP kapedbus and Ridgepi 1 1
beetle Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 Shami is a little bit pregnant....:giggle: kapedbus, BrantFUGH and Ridgepi 2 1
ShebbySB Posted July 12, 2014 Posted July 12, 2014 BK,Shami,Aaron,Ishant+Jadeja for Lord's.....our batting is good enough.Need to have a fast bowler in the line up.Playing with 10 man in this test,Binny is a poor cricketer,not a batsman who can bat even at 7,nor a test level bowler.Get Aaron in for him in lord's. Ridgepi and BrantFUGH 1 1
express bowling Posted July 19, 2014 Author Posted July 19, 2014 Indian pacers in the 2nd test first innings Bhuvi. 120 to 133 k Shami. 130 to 140 k Ishant. 128 to 139 k Ridgepi and BrantFUGH 1 1
express bowling Posted July 19, 2014 Author Posted July 19, 2014 English seamers 127 to 140 k mostly Ridgepi and BrantFUGH 1 1
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