Speeds and Performances of Pacers and Spinners

[ShebbySB]

India's average pace for this series must be somewhere between 78 and 80 lol. BUt in patches they bowled okay. Especially Bhuvan. Shami was a bit of disappointment. Veteran ishant has exceeded his quota in this series with 2 good spells. Lack of speed wasn't a problem. May be it is the crappy battine form of England that made us look good or anything else we won't know until we play against other teams.

Shami was not in rhythm,today he showed signs of improvement was 137-142ks. Ishant has bowled ok,pace wise decent too 132-138ks.BK is 125-132k bowler but a fantastic one with great accuracy & skill.His batting is a plus.

[Old guy]

If we win this one don't expect another green mamba coming this series. Southampton will be a slow track which should assist spinners in day 4 & 5. Dhoni will play Ashwin now even on a flat deck.

yep and its not like we are using binny ..i will include ashwin for batting alone over binny

[ShebbySB]

I think Dhoni will prefer Pankaj as he was the 4 th most preferred seamer in the practice matches. Aaron and Pandey got chances to bowl almost as an afterthought.

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[ShebbySB]

yep and its not like we are using binny ..i will include ashwin for batting alone over binny

But our kaptaan cool will surprise everybody & will bring in Nohit at 6 :haha:

[express bowling]

India's average pace for this series must be somewhere between 78 and 80 lol. BUt in patches they bowled okay. Especially Bhuvan. Shami was a bit of disappointment. Veteran ishant has exceeded his quota in this series with 2 good spells. Lack of speed wasn't a problem. May be it is the crappy battine form of England that made us look good or anything else we won't know until we play against other teams.

Leaving aside Bhuvi, the speeds of the other 2 Indian pacers were very similar to the English. Mostly 130 to 140 k.

[ShebbySB]

People will make a huge mistake if they judge BK or belittle him based on his pace.Genuine swing bowlers are rare nowadays & with his batting capabilities I gotta say we've found a gem.

[express bowling]

But our kaptaan cool will surprise everybody & will bring in Nohit at 6 :haha:

May happen. :cantstop: C.Cool likes a loooong batting lineup.

[Old guy]

But our kaptaan cool will surprise everybody & will bring in Nohit at 6 :haha:

even that would not hurt tbh as binny has not been used at all with rohit atleast we have trust in batting and he will play before dhoni :cantstop:

[ShebbySB]

Aaron is up there pace wise with the fastest in the world right now.Still can't find a place in an avg bowling side like us.Though Umesh's exclusion was harsh. So BK is the best we've got right now.BK,Shami,Umesh,Ishant,Aaron,Pankaj & Pandey if these guys can stay fit we can produce some good results outside SC consistently.

[ShebbySB]

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even that would not hurt tbh as binny has not been used at all with rohit atleast we have trust in batting and he will play before dhoni :cantstop:

Barring Binny's match saving innings in the last match we've played with 10 men.

[express bowling]

People will make a huge mistake if they judge BK or belittle him based on his pace.Genuine swing bowlers are rare nowadays & with his batting capabilities I gotta say we've found a gem.

If a bowler can take wickets consistently then it is ok even if he bowls 115 k. Bhuvi has been wonderful. His real test will come outside England though.

[maniac]

If a bowler can take wickets consistently then it is ok even if he bowls 115 k. Bhuvi has been wonderful. His real test will come outside England though.

Yup....might do well in Nzl and even in s.c but doubts about his abilities with the ball in aus or s.a

[Old guy]

Yup....might do well in Nzl and even in s.c but doubts about his abilities with the ball in aus or s.a

in south afrca he will do well but australia we need 3 other quicks who are taller and quicker along with bhuvi

[ShebbySB]

Yup....might do well in Nzl and even in s.c but doubts about his abilities with the ball in aus or s.a

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[express bowling]

Aaron is up there pace wise with the fastest in the world right now.Still can't find a place in an avg bowling side like us.Though Umesh's exclusion was harsh. So BK is the best we've got right now.BK,Shami,Umesh,Ishant,Aaron,Pankaj & Pandey if these guys can stay fit we can produce some good results outside SC consistently.

Add Bumrah to the mix. Umesh, Bhuvi, Shami, Pankaj, Ishant, Aaron, Pandey, Bumrah will give us a decent group of pacers. Numberwise, the largest collection of international quality pacers we have ever had.

[ShebbySB]

Add Bumrah to the mix. Umesh, Bhuvi, Shami, Pankaj, Ishant, Aaron, Pandey, Bumrah will give us a decent group of pacers. Numberwise, the largest collection of international quality pacers we have ever had.

Bumrah needs to do more before he can be considered for tests though can play ODIs pretty soon.

[vvvslaxman]

Leaving aside Bhuvi' date=' the speeds of the other 2 Indian pacers were very similar to the English. Mostly 130 to 140 k.[/quote'] May be low 130.. Very very rarely high 130s. . Plunkett and stokes were the fastest from both teams.

[express bowling]

Yup....might do well in Nzl and even in s.c but doubts about his abilities with the ball in aus or s.a

I would pick Bhuvi in form in England, NZ, SA and Zim. Have to see in subcontinent , WI and Australia. Not sure.

[vvvslaxman]

If a bowler can take wickets consistently then it is ok even if he bowls 115 k. Bhuvi has been wonderful. His real test will come outside England though.

Sadley he was sitting out in 2 series.

[maniac]

Bumrah needs to do more before he can be considered for tests though can play ODIs pretty soon.

Yeah he looks like he has the skill....hope he doesn't play too much t20 or Odis before given a test shot. Also Aaron has to be used,before age catches Up to him......I think he has improved his ability to swng without losing much pace....need to try him out ASAP.