Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Ashwin gone and now is the time for archer to bowl express which he might do now. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Archer 20th over 129 133 135 134 136 No ball 137 Mosher and Suhaan 1 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 It was always on the cards that Archer would try to bowl fast and bounce batsmen in the initial phase. Which he did. And now he has been cut to size. Intelligent enough to not try fast, but rely on the line. Comparatively, Ishant bowled way better than both the English faster bowlers. He was following a good line and nice length. Hopefully, Ishant will get his rewards in the series. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) The best wicket taker pacers on slow pitches have bowled stump directed deliveries at 140 k+ and have tried to get reverse swing. Good examples are Shami, Steyn, Umesh 2.0. The English seamers have hardly tried this. Edited February 8, 2021 by express bowling Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: The best wicket taker pacers on slow pitches have bowled stump directed deliveries at 140 k+ and have tried to get reverse swing. Good examples are Shami, Steyn, Umesh 2.0. The English seamers have hardly tried this. None of those wickets were the kind this wicket is. Dynamics change on different wickets.`Also, I think its a little far stretched to say that the wickets were taken only at 140+ deliveries. Dont think so. By no means am I saying bowling quick is a waste of time, but saying that wickets were taken only at balls which were above 140 is totally far stretched. I'd say a lot of wickets were taken on balls in late 130's, but quicker deliveries may have been used to soften the batsmen down. Edited February 8, 2021 by Rightarmfast Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: None of those wickets were the kind this wicket is. Dynamics change on different wickets. Look at how Bumrah bowled on this pitch. Honing in on the stumps at high pace and with reverse swing. All the 5 wickets that the Indian fast bowlers took were LBWs and bowleds via quick indipping balls. Mosher 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, express bowling said: Look at how Bumrah bowled on this pitch. Honing in on the stumps at high pace and with reverse swing. All the 5 wickets that the Indian fast bowlers took were LBWs and bowleds via quick indipping balls. We will agree to disagree. Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 12 minutes ago, express bowling said: Look at how Bumrah bowled on this pitch. Honing in on the stumps at high pace and with reverse swing. All the 5 wickets that the Indian fast bowlers took were LBWs and bowleds via quick indipping balls. Btw, all the wickets by Indian quicks were taken at balls below 140. Mostly around 133-138. Thats the ideal pace I was talking about. They are not express in my boosk, more fast medium to me. Link to comment
Mosher Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 5 minutes ago, express bowling said: Look at how Bumrah bowled on this pitch. Honing in on the stumps at high pace and with reverse swing. All the 5 wickets that the Indian fast bowlers took were LBWs and bowleds via quick indipping balls. Exactly. This is a slow pitch on which you look to bowl quicker and a fuller length with the old ball looking for bowled/lbw and try and take the pitch out of the equation. Steyn was a master of this. He would cut down his pace with the new ball when there was swing available and then crank it up with the old ball when it started reversing. Like you said Umesh and Shami have been very successful in India by doing exactly this. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: Btw, all the wickets by Indian quicks were taken at balls below 140. Mostly around 133-138. Thats the ideal pace I was talking about. They are not express in my boosk, more fast medium to me. Bumrah 3 wickets were at 138 k, 140 k and the 3rd was probably 138 k too. Sharp enough. Ishant beat Archer for pace too. He could not bring his bat down in time. Probably more zip off the deck. Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 23 minutes ago, Rightarmfast said: We will agree to disagree. Fair enough ! Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 14 minutes ago, Mosher said: Exactly. This is a slow pitch on which you look to bowl quicker and a fuller length with the old ball looking for bowled/lbw and try and take the pitch out of the equation. Steyn was a master of this. He would cut down his pace with the new ball when there was swing available and then crank it up with the old ball when it started reversing. Like you said Umesh and Shami have been very successful in India by doing exactly this. Exactly bro ! Mosher 1 Link to comment
Rightarmfast Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 9 minutes ago, express bowling said: Bumrah 3 wickets were at 138 k, 140 k and the 3rd was probably 138 k too. Sharp enough. Ishant beat Archer for pace too. He could not bring his bat down in time. Probably more zip off the deck. I think 1 was at 135, but anyway, late 130's is not express. Its sharp. Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Ashwin gets a wicket first ball A lot more turn and bounce on day 4 Mosher 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, Rightarmfast said: I think 1 was at 135, but anyway, late 130's is not express. Its sharp. Did I talk about express pace of 145 k+ ? I said 140 k+.which is basically sharp. These speed guns are not that precise. A 138 k ball on a speed gun could well register 140 k or 141 k on the high speed cameras which give precise speed readings. More than the exact speed gun readings, my point was about attacking the stumps at pace. Hurrying batsmen visually. And that is what happened in 4 of the 5 dismissals. Mosher and sarchasm 2 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Nadeem looks quite ordinary. If Axar was fit, he may not have been selected. We are really struggling to keep players fit for some reason Suhaan and express bowling 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, Vk1 said: Nadeem looks quite ordinary. If Axar was fit, he may not have been selected. We are really struggling to keep players fit for some reason My choice is Kuldeep for Nadeem in test 2. Suhaan and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Vk1 Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 Just now, express bowling said: My choice is Kuldeep for Nadeem in test 2. anybody for Nadeen.. guy looks out of place. Expected him to stand with Washi but poked at something and got out. must have played many A tours and he still looks unsure. Suhaan 1 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted February 8, 2021 Share Posted February 8, 2021 1 minute ago, express bowling said: My choice is Kuldeep for Nadeem in test 2. How did he leapfrog Kuldeep?Kuldeep has been with the squad for ages ,no reason other than clown kaptaan's evil intentions Nadeem has played to keep Kuldeep at bay,plain and simple Coincidence don't always happen,Kuldeep has been kept on sidelines for no reason This is not coincidence. express bowling and Mosher 2 Link to comment
express bowling Posted February 8, 2021 Author Share Posted February 8, 2021 (edited) 10 overs gone and haven't seen a fast bowler yet. Need to try Bumrah now. Edited February 8, 2021 by express bowling Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
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