wc2023 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 14 minutes ago, Jay said: btw s.african speed guns are trash. they had morkel bowling at 170 once. so rauf's 150 might actually be an innocuous 135 k ball. Rauf bowled 150kph in New Zealand .Shaheen bowled 150kph in Sa and he boled many balls around 146to147 kph before reaching 150kph. As far as errors are concerned in wc2019 speed data even root was at 80mph + but that does not chang fact that Wood,Fergusson crossed 150kph ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 16 minutes ago, wc2023 said: Rauf bowled 150kph in New Zealand .Shaheen bowled 150kph in Sa and he boled many balls around 146to147 kph before reaching 150kph. As far as errors are concerned in wc2019 speed data even root was at 80mph + but that does not chang fact that Wood,Fergusson crossed 150kph what i meant was that their speeds may be fast. however it doesnt rush the batsmen. bumrah shami bowling at 140 still rushes batsmen due to the bounce, skiddy nature and their release point. thats why wood will be treated like a trundler soon. he got figured out eventually vs india. they are fast but never rush batsmen. shaheen is class i agree. rauf still needs some work to do. husnain is a decent talent. overall, pak is shaping up nicely however pak lacks power hitters. bowling is good Link to comment
wc2023 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, Jay said: what i meant was that their speeds may be fast. however it doesnt rush the batsmen. bumrah shami bowling at 140 still rushes batsmen due to the bounce, skiddy nature and their release point. thats why wood will be treated like a trundler soon. he got figured out eventually vs india. they are fast but never rush batsmen. shaheen is class i agree. rauf still needs some work to do. husnain is a decent talent. overall, pak is shaping up nicely however pak lacks power hitters. bowling is good Well Rauf and Shaheen more rush batsmen more than often. I think nature of pitch has to do more with the" hurryying the batsmen " Even Shami's pace and Bumrah's pace did not trouble the Australian batsmen in the Odi series 2020 due to placid track ABDfan 1 Link to comment
speed_thrills Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Jay said: btw s.african speed guns are trash. they had morkel bowling at 170 once. so rauf's 150 might actually be an innocuous 135 k ball. Pakistani Trio is quick, but that's about it. They will be clobbered by good teams in all formats. sandeep 1 Link to comment
wc2023 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 These days all bowlers get clobbered in white ball cricket without discrimination ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 2 hours ago, wc2023 said: Well Rauf and Shaheen more rush batsmen more than often. I think nature of pitch has to do more with the" hurryying the batsmen " Even Shami's pace and Bumrah's pace did not trouble the Australian batsmen in the Odi series 2020 due to placid track Shami bumrah are effective even on flat decks of Asia which cannot be said about Shaheen and co. Link to comment
Jay Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 12 minutes ago, wc2023 said: These days all bowlers get clobbered in white ball cricket without discrimination That's why current gen bowlers are greater than any of the past greats Particularly in odi due to rules favouring batsmen. Still a few bowlers average under 28 in such tough Conditions. Link to comment
wc2023 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Shami bumrah are effective even on flat decks of Asia which cannot be said about Shaheen and co. But of late even they struggled in odis against Australia and Newzealand ABDfan 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted April 11, 2021 Author Share Posted April 11, 2021 (edited) 3 or 4 Pakistani pacers are bowling quickly in 2021. No doubt about it. The main challenge is to sustain those speeds while playing multiple formats over multiple years. Another challenge is bowling accurately at high speeds. And doing both these require a professional setup. Edited April 11, 2021 by express bowling wc2023 and Mosher 2 Link to comment
Jay Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 21 minutes ago, wc2023 said: But of late even they struggled in odis against Australia and Newzealand perhaps but the main focus was test cricket though. apart from a poor n.z tour where india had dunderhead making dunderhead decisions as kaptaan and went into a crucial fixture without test match practice, the bowlers bowled really well. ABDfan 1 Link to comment
wc2023 Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: perhaps but the main focus was test cricket though. apart from a poor n.z tour where india had dunderhead making dunderhead decisions as kaptaan and went into a crucial fixture without test match practice, the bowlers bowled really well. Actually I think test cricket still has a lot to offer for bowlers ABDfan 1 Link to comment
Nero Posted April 11, 2021 Share Posted April 11, 2021 13 hours ago, Jay said: btw s.african speed guns are trash. they had morkel bowling at 170 once. so rauf's 150 might actually be an innocuous 135 k ball. Rauf clicked 151.3k in big bash.You can see the videos.He is quick but is erratic.If a speed gun malfunctioned in SA long time ago doesn’t mean it is not working now.Speed guns do malfunction occasionally. Link to comment
Vilander Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 21 hours ago, wc2023 said: Rauf bowled 150kph in New Zealand .Shaheen bowled 150kph in Sa and he boled many balls around 146to147 kph before reaching 150kph. As far as errors are concerned in wc2019 speed data even root was at 80mph + but that does not chang fact that Wood,Fergusson crossed 150kph Nope mostly errors.. show me a test match where new pakistani pacer touched 150. Dones not happen. Link to comment
Vilander Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 7 hours ago, Nero said: Rauf clicked 151.3k in big bash.You can see the videos.He is quick but is erratic.If a speed gun malfunctioned in SA long time ago doesn’t mean it is not working now.Speed guns do malfunction occasionally. T20 is not accurate description of speed. Lots of people touch 150 152 in t20s. Show tests. Link to comment
wc2023 Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Vilander said: Nope mostly errors.. show me a test match where new pakistani pacer touched 150. Dones not happen. Well i think you should fitst sort out these errors then we shall talk ABDfan 1 Link to comment
rollingstoned Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 Avesh khan was impressive in the last game, which cab off the rank is he considering our fast bowling stocks? Link to comment
Vilander Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 10 hours ago, wc2023 said: Well i think you should fitst sort out these errors then we shall talk Nope its yours to sort. And let's not really talk after that, cheers bye. wc2023 1 Link to comment
Jay Posted April 12, 2021 Share Posted April 12, 2021 16 hours ago, rollingstoned said: Avesh khan was impressive in the last game, which cab off the rank is he considering our fast bowling stocks? He is better than all Pak bowlers in test cricket except Shaheen. wc2023 and rock777 2 Link to comment
New guy Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/sports/cricket/news/bhuvneshwar-kumar-wins-icc-player-of-the-month-award/articleshow/82047675.cms Bhuvneswar wins ICC player of the month wc2023 1 Link to comment
Vilander Posted April 14, 2021 Share Posted April 14, 2021 Player of the week player of the match player of the hour?? Lol icc express bowling 1 Link to comment
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