express bowling Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Suhaan said: Sakaria has to be the mediocrest cricketer ever to play for India,i cant recall any worse How did Sakaria get picked for ODIs ? Averaged 40 in List A before this tour. We want to get back to the trundling 1980s. Mosher, Suhaan and maniac 1 1 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, speed_thrills said: More important question should be, do we have any bowlers with some bowling talent? We do. But we are preferring trundlers these days for their supposed or real batting ability. Mosher and Suhaan 2 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 42 minutes ago, express bowling said: How did Sakaria get picked for ODIs ? Averaged 40 in List A before this tour. We want to get back to the trundling 1980s. Chetan Sharma looks himself in each trundler,but heard when burst into the team he himself was 140+ express bowling 1 Link to comment
speedheat Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Italian brothers are debuting 90mph bowlers and we are reversing the trend lol with herds of 80mph trundlers. We have become a laughing stock. maniac, Indwin, express bowling and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 49 minutes ago, express bowling said: We do. But we are preferring trundlers these days for their supposed or real batting ability. My categorisation of pacers/seamers as per TM's preference: Tier 1: Bumrah, Shami, Ishant (Tests), Umesh, Bhuvi (LOIs) Tier 2: Siraj, Shardul, Natarajan, Deepak Chahar (LOIs) Tier 3: Saini, Prasidh, Avesh Tier 4: Sakariya, Ishan Porel, Nagerkotti, Kartik Tyagi, Warrier, Nagashwalla, Arshdeep, Simarjeet (selected for a national squad or as net bowlers in recent tours), Tier 5: Mavi, Harshal Patel, Ankit Rajpoot, Unadkat, Aaron Tier 6 (hardly known yet but promising talents): Kuldeep Sen, ? Those in bold can bowl 140+. Sakariya's selection was purely the punt to create a Nattu like scenario. Link to comment
speedheat Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 147.4kph chameera Mosher, Suhaan and express bowling 3 Link to comment
express bowling Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said: My categorisation of pacers/seamers as per TM's preference: Tier 1: Bumrah, Shami, Ishant (Tests), Umesh, Bhuvi (LOIs) Tier 2: Siraj, Shardul, Natarajan, Deepak Chahar (LOIs) Tier 3: Saini, Prasidh, Avesh Tier 4: Sakariya, Ishan Porel, Nagerkotti, Kartik Tyagi, Warrier, Nagashwalla, Arshdeep, Simarjeet (selected for a national squad or as net bowlers in recent tours), Tier 5: Mavi, Harshal Patel, Ankit Rajpoot, Unadkat, Aaron Tier 6 (hardly known yet but promising talents): Kuldeep Sen, ? Those in bold can bowl 140+. Sakariya's selection was purely the punt to create a Nattu like scenario. The TM and selectors are picking too many medium pacers for LOIs these days. While there should always be a place for an exceptional swing bowler ( even though he is a medium pacer ), too many medium pacers always make the attack one dimensional and weak. Even in the T20Is against England the TM packed the team with trundlers. It's true that with our first team being in England, our choice of quicks have been limited. But why have Tyagi and Mavi been totally ignored by the selectors !! Tyagi's exclusion, even as a net bowler in SL, is very very disappointing. He should have been in the main squad itself. ShoonyaSifar and Mosher 2 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 hour ago, ShoonyaSifar said: My categorisation of pacers/seamers as per TM's preference: Tier 1: Bumrah, Shami, Ishant (Tests), Umesh, Bhuvi (LOIs) Tier 2: Siraj, Shardul, Natarajan, Deepak Chahar (LOIs) Tier 3: Saini, Prasidh, Avesh Tier 4: Sakariya, Ishan Porel, Nagerkotti, Kartik Tyagi, Warrier, Nagashwalla, Arshdeep, Simarjeet (selected for a national squad or as net bowlers in recent tours), Tier 5: Mavi, Harshal Patel, Ankit Rajpoot, Unadkat, Aaron Tier 6 (hardly known yet but promising talents): Kuldeep Sen, ? Those in bold can bowl 140+. Sakariya's selection was purely the punt to create a Nattu like scenario. time to bump down Saini and move up Tyagi. Enough of his 6packs that keeps getting injured in crucial situations. First in Australia and now in Srilanka Lord 1 Link to comment
ShoonyaSifar Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 1 minute ago, maniac said: time to bump down Saini and move up Tyagi. Enough of his 6packs that keeps getting injured in crucial situations. First in Australia and now in Srilanka Yep. A sad story. Just couldn't step up. Had everything going for him but bottled it - both physically and mentally. I'd rather we go back to Aaron for 140+ pacers. Tyagi's status is not clear. Is he fit, the njured, recovering at NCA. Not to pick him or Mavi for this tour was strange. maniac 1 Link to comment
maniac Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 9 minutes ago, ShoonyaSifar said: Yep. A sad story. Just couldn't step up. Had everything going for him but bottled it - both physically and mentally. I'd rather we go back to Aaron for 140+ pacers. Tyagi's status is not clear. Is he fit, the njured, recovering at NCA. Not to pick him or Mavi for this tour was strange. someone at the medical staff needs to be held accountable. You can excuse a player for hiding an injury but this is happening too often Saini, Bhuvi,Hardik I have all seen them get injured in the middle of the game more than once. Umesh I can give him the benefit of doubt because fitness is usually not a concern for him even though happened in Australia Lord and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Lord Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 22 minutes ago, express bowling said: The TM and selectors are picking too many medium pacers for LOIs these days. While there should always be a place for an exceptional swing bowler ( even though he is a medium pacer ), too many medium pacers always make the attack one dimensional and weak. Even in the T20Is against England the TM packed the team with trundlers. It's true that with our first team being in England, our choice of quicks have been limited. But why have Tyagi and Mavi been totally ignored by the selectors !! Tyagi's exclusion, even as a net bowler in SL, is very very disappointing. He should have been in the main squad itself. I read somewhere they only want him to play Tests. Didnt feature in IPL this year too Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 21 minutes ago, express bowling said: The TM and selectors are picking too many medium pacers for LOIs these days. While there should always be a place for an exceptional swing bowler ( even though he is a medium pacer ), too many medium pacers always make the attack one dimensional and weak. Even in the T20Is against England the TM packed the team with trundlers. It's true that with our first team being in England, our choice of quicks have been limited. But why have Tyagi and Mavi been totally ignored by the selectors !! Tyagi's exclusion, even as a net bowler in SL, is very very disappointing. He should have been in the main squad itself. Chetan Sharma will push back this refreshing trend that we had for past 5-6 years by playing juicy tender trundlers in every damn series in the name of variety I have seen some peculiar attributes in Indian trundlers they should not even be called trundlers rather call them medium spinners for they operate in 120s ,swing or no swing you will be mauled in today's age They should be training hard to atleast maintain 130+ Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Mosher Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Chahar looks a much better bowler when he bowls a bit slower. Forward Defence and express bowling 2 Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Warrier 141.1 Mosher 1 Link to comment
Forward Defence Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Rahul Chahar seems to bowl well only when we are in hopeless situations. Has been great today. speedheat, express bowling and Lord 3 Link to comment
Suhaan Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 10 minutes ago, Forward Defence said: Warrier 141.1 Chetan Sharma may get very angry and smash his head on his table 141 times express bowling, Forward Defence, maniac and 2 others 5 Link to comment
Mosher Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 Warrier overdoing the short balls. express bowling 1 Link to comment
vishalvirsingh Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 8 hours ago, express bowling said: How did Sakaria get picked for ODIs ? Averaged 40 in List A before this tour. We want to get back to the trundling 1980s. Sakaria is Useless...i knew it before. actually except Shaw, deepak chahar , rahul chahar , varun chakrabarthy , Surya Kumar and Ishan Kishan...i did not like any one. samson is inconsistent. even today's Pacer looked average. BHuvi is a shadow of his past , just swings the new ball , hardly any pace. pandya brothers also looking average. express bowling 1 Link to comment
express bowling Posted August 3, 2021 Author Share Posted August 3, 2021 If I had to choose just ONE pacer for tomorrow's test match .... it would be Md.Siraj This is because .... He can move the ball both ways at sharp pace. .... He is in good form .... He can hit the deck hard for hostile bounce if the ball is not moving. Sundar and Mayank would agree. Mosher and Vickydev 2 Link to comment
Vickydev Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 On 7/29/2021 at 6:03 PM, express bowling said: How did Sakaria get picked for ODIs ? Averaged 40 in List A before this tour. We want to get back to the trundling 1980s. We are following some template here. A player hyped with bowling variations, can land a few yorkers, some decent IPL performances and bang they are in the T20 setup as a specialist. Once they are there, all it requires is a good game here or there and they will jump the queue over proven performers and become an ODI option. And worse still, the only way one gets in the Test setup is by first playing in the LOIs. Thats why we won't see Porel, Avesh or Tyagi in the test XI anytime soon Mosher and express bowling 2 Link to comment
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