cowboysfan Posted August 24, 2016 Share Posted August 24, 2016 8 hours ago, randomGuy said: Well said. Sports ministry is a hindrance in doing well in Olympics. US also has the best College Athletes in the world where Olympians from all over the world come to get trained in their respective sport.Most Universities in India have no Sports other than Cricket. randomGuy and sandeep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkt.india Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 5 hours ago, cowboysfan said: Its quite shameful that a country of more than a billion people could just manage 2 medals,if the Govt doesnt support these athletes then the corporations need to step in like they do in the US. it is not about govt support or encouragement to sports. It goes beyond that. Do you think we have the talent to excel in sports. What funding does the Kenyan athletes get and they have won 6 golds this Olympics. We do not have ability required for sports. Apart from a few trades, we do not stand a chance against the best in Olympics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechEng Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Peirs Murugan and Chatan Bhaagat twitter spat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngindia Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 8 hours ago, rkt.india said: it is not about govt support or encouragement to sports. It goes beyond that. Do you think we have the talent to excel in sports. What funding does the Kenyan athletes get and they have won 6 golds this Olympics. We do not have ability required for sports. Apart from a few trades, we do not stand a chance against the best in Olympics. Kenya's medals are won by one tribe called the Kalenjin who perform way better than other Kenyans! take out the Kalenjin,3/4 th of the medals and champions are gone yes both kenya and Ethiopia have a system to harness this talent from one or two regions only. the pioneer was kipchoge keino (and abebe Bekele for Ethiopia)...like Imran khan, he inspired a tradition and lots of Kalenjin youngsters have put the world out of competition today. this is not the way to excel across disciplines...freaks of nature in one discipline ...that's it. kenya, Jamaica are poor examples to cite for this reason.even Jamaica has a per capita of 9000 and kenya does not have the same severity in problems like the subcontinent. we were a powerhouse in hockey 40-50 years ago as well before that rule change on surfaces the top 10-20 countries pretty much have a per capita of 10000 and above there was a time 40 years ago when south korea was winning scrapes like us . with better money, they have invested themselves to a premier asian power nowadays.. even iran with per capita of around 8000 is better than us in asia for example in basket ball and football. in sports, money and economy certainly talks. . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngindia Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 21 hours ago, Number said: Even in Aus or UK people question their governments that is it really necessary to spend truck loads of money on a single sportsman who is never gonna get noticed. The same money can be used to make many lives better if it is invested in infrastructure or medical. if you have a problem with poverty or malnutrition, find visionaries who find a way. China has invested heavily in sports and also managed to leaps it economy a few generations ahead of us. the problem is quality of governance and policies. curtailing sports budget is no way to solve human development problems. if you want to remove people from poverty, find ways to become a manufacturing power first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 21 hours ago, Number said: Olympics were supposed to provide a stage to individual atheletes to show their skills. Thanks to developed countries making it a prestige issue, it has now become an auction disguised in sporting event where they can lottery fund their talents and buy them a medal. I hope our government makes sure there are structural changes to utilise the funds to sports better rather than doubling or tripling funds. There is no point in that. Even in Aus or UK people question their governments that is it really necessary to spend truck loads of money on a single sportsman who is never gonna get noticed. The same money can be used to make many lives better if it is invested in infrastructure or medical. yup the whole thing derailed apparently when they allowed professionals to compete in olympics. Now it has become a prestige issue for countries and bank roll the atheletes and worse cases some countries do inhuman torture to the contestants from an young age to make them world class. India i think has neither the will or the funds to do this, just pick a few sports and invest in them and have world class facilities for them. Thats what India should do, pick few where we are in contention say Hockey,badminton,boxing,wrestling,shooting,archery and invest fully in them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 15 hours ago, cowboysfan said: Its quite shameful that a country of more than a billion people could just manage 2 medals,if the Govt doesnt support these athletes then the corporations need to step in like they do in the US. i have heard this 1 billion every where. For a nation to do well in a particular sport there is no empirical evidence that as population increases beyond the stable 10-15 million there is any direct impact on sporting ability of the nation, as a matter of fact sporting ability is that of an individual or an academy of sports not that of a nation. So beyond a point in population you just have multiple units of the same nation spreading over there is no net benefit out of it, for instance if you make an all start cricket team with best players of the world and make them compete the next five years across board its not that they will win every game that there is. What however is shameful is the immediate short cut gratification that the politicians want, they want a selfi moment or a page three moment with the atheletes and give money to them but thats not going to help,infrastructure would help but hey its India where goons,illiterates are chosen as leaders many times. An other farce that i read is genetical disposition to do well in sports, well there is a very minute difference in the olympic qualification and world record in every sport discipline, so if you have hoards qualifying then all is well with the hoards genetically its just that the support infrastructure to make them world class is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maniac Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 20 hours ago, Singh bling said: Spending such a huge amount when 15 lakh children in die because of malnutrition is not something which India should do It is the same argument that is made when IT Parks are created as people argue that they want to rehabilitate or build projects for poor people.In the end neither happens and our country goes back by 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veer Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 Seriously sad indeed.. From Ministers to Officials ... what a shame!.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Singh bling Posted August 25, 2016 Share Posted August 25, 2016 3 hours ago, maniac said: It is the same argument that is made when IT Parks are created as people argue that they want to rehabilitate or build projects for poor people.In the end neither happens and our country goes back by 5 more years. IT parks boost economy , create jobs and increase GDP , while Olympic sports are just wasting your precious resources for just boosting ego of people and country.How many people will actually follow Olympic sports after the Olympics are over? There are core cricket fans like us who follow cricket day and night, then comes football fans who follow EPL, CPL but will not follow Indian football. Then there are very few who will follow remaining sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngindia Posted August 26, 2016 Share Posted August 26, 2016 Poverty and malnutrition can only be solved by growth of industry especially in the poor states and the determination of parents to see their children through school. nothing else will help. The paltry spending in sports neither takes us here or there. its perfectly possible to invest in sport as well as human development areas and achieve results. the problem is the incompetence and bad ideas at all levels - both govt and the poor attitude of the people. Better governance , better execution and better attitude is the way. Ideas like paltry sport funding is as stupid as hoping withholding tv or walkman will make poor students better academically.Shows unimaginative mind who cant detect root causes and solve problems properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweaker Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 On 24/08/2016 at 2:25 AM, velu said: and the president of Indian Olympic Association is none other than N Ramachandran ( brother of the cement mama ) this mama really looks like the frog guy in kung fu hustle Kungfu hustle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sourab10forever Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 privatization of sports is the way forward...although it might not be fair to all..but atleast give hopes of seeing India thieve on world stage. Just look at cricket and BCCI tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tweaker Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Carolina Marin Is Shocked That Sindhu Has Earned More Cash Rewards Than Her After The Olympics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cricketics Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 20 hours ago, tweaker said: Carolina Marin Is Shocked That Sindhu Has Earned More Cash Rewards Than Her After The Olympics She should switch the citiezenship to India. She will realize that we can even make her MP here. tweaker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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