Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 7 minutes ago, Gollum said: Where is the intelligentsia in TN now? in their institutions which are churning out sufficiently learned population that is enabling the second largest GDP. lol abc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 10 minutes ago, Gollum said: When you have 70% reservation, a declining school standard system, a joke of a state board which doesn't challenge the young minds, a govt which opposes national competitive exams, a political environment which promotes mushrooming of farcical low standard private colleges that don't care about anything except money, if that isn't a downward spiral then what is? How Tamil Nadu education system has turned into a vicious chain of apathy Decline and fall of Tamil Nadu hehe did you just search decline and fall of Tamil Nadu ? and find the first two links and shared them haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gollum Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 3 minutes ago, Vilander said: in their institutions which are churning out sufficiently learned population that is enabling the second largest GDP. lol Well done to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, Vilander said: publicly available all the riots and flame speeches, again in the context of the discussion then about - sangam literature being called not related to dharmic religions and that being called as an anti hindu activity. I just pointed to actual anti hindu sentiment around the country. Never mentioned that it's an anti-hindu activity... just said that it's related and influenced by the beliefs of the time. Vilander 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, Gollum said: so nothing malicious in my intent. I call it the way I see it and I take no pleasure in doing so. could be but you are misinformed. read about urbanization in TN and its impact on the economy. i will give you a small example. Karnataka a similarly developed state, often goes for quality - its ordered costly foreign ( chinese)electric buses for its mass transit system in Bangalore. TN tasks ashok Leyland to produce these inhouse. The reason being there is an entire ecosystem of bus and heavy machinery building company(s) in TN that lobby for work ( public spending). TN ofter takes a economically sustainable route to urban development, it is plagued with lack of resources like rest of India, nothing points to any alarming trend anywhere You can take many such fields, there is urbal sprawl in TN that leads to economic and commercial activity cotton - CB, silk - Kanchi, tanning hide - ambur/vaniambadi granites - dharmapuri, iron steel - salem, industrial estates if misc kind - thiruvallur/hosur with some automotive textile - erode thiruur , nuclear energy plants - pretty much one of the leading states with allocation , leading state in renewable energy - wind and solar , chemical - tutukodi this is the reason TN is still a bigger economy than Gujrat :), its just sound economics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, diga said: Never mentioned that it's an anti-hindu activity... just said that it's related and influenced by the beliefs of the time. noted i might have misinterpreted it then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: i will give you a small example. Karnataka a similarly developed state, often goes for quality - its ordered costly foreign ( chinese)electric buses for its mass transit system in Bangalore. TN tasks ashok Leyland to produce these inhouse. The reason being there is an entire ecosystem of bus and heavy machinery building company(s) in TN that lobby for work ( public spending). TN ofter takes a economically sustainable route to urban development, it is plagued with lack of resources like rest of India, nothing points to any alarming trend anywhere You can take many such fields, there is urbal sprawl in TN that leads to economic and commercial activity cotton - CB, silk - Kanchi, tanning hide - ambur/vaniambadi gra False equivalence... Buses are not from China.... Karnataka under SM Krishna setup the Volvo manufacturing unit. Even the non-profit luxury buses are manufactured in Karnataka by Tata Marco Polo Don't think that TN leads in GDP now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 9 minutes ago, diga said: False equivalence... Buses are not from China.... Karnataka under SM Krishna setup the Volvo manufacturing unit. Even the non-profit luxury buses are manufactured in Karnataka by Tata Marco Polo Don't think that TN leads in GDP now TN leads who ? TN is number two in GDP in the country after Maharastra. It a bit more than Gujrat despite agriculture failure in 2017 due to monsoon failure and rive water sharing issues. False equivalence where lol ? I quoted it as an example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 @diga I was refering to this. BYD for bangalore https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.economictimes.com/industry/auto/auto-news/byd-goldstone-plan-5k-electric-buses-per-year/amp_articleshow/64485504.cms Local Leyland for chennai. https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.timesofindia.com/city/chennai/ashok-leylands-electric-bus-circuit-test-driven-for-mtc-in-chennai/amp_articleshow/59110095.cms Similar case during train coaches etc. I remember Hydrabad complaining about quality of coaches to Chennai and refusing and those coaches were brought to chennai suburban rail network and people loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 Percapita GDP of Guj/Kar is more than TN if I am not mistaken.. Vovlo has been manufacturing buses in Karnataka for more than 10 years now and yet you bring in import of chinese buses.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 /\ Lol this is from the chinese firm. How cute. The localisation content in electric buses sold by Goldstone-BYD in India currently stands at around 35%. “I would like to have 100% localisation if possible, but unfortunately we do not have the ecosystem here,” Xie said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) BYD-Hyd is manufacturing buses in Kar and hopes for a contract from the state.. still not importing and no contract yet as you claimed Edited February 6, 2019 by diga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, diga said: Percapita GDP of Guj/Kar is more than TN if I am not mistaken.. Percapita nominal is based on population. In terms of percapita GDP india is lesser than srilanka iran iraq nauru guatamala etc lol..iraq has equal or better per capita gdp that china hehehe Edited February 6, 2019 by Vilander Nominal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Vilander said: Percapita is based on population. In terms of percapita GDP india is lesser than srilanka iran iraq nauru guatamala etc lol..iraq has equal or better per capita gdp that china hehehe Per capita GDP is more an indicator of standard of living Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 But whats your point @diga So imagine Guj overtakes TN in GDP next year lets say and TN is 3 or imagine UP over takes all in 5 years ..so what ? My point is if TN is failing etc as alluded by Golum why does it have ok metrics for an Indian state ? I mean GDP infant mortality literacy etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, diga said: Per capita GDP is more an indicator of standard of living Sure but how is that a point here. Imagine per capita of TN is 18k rs and Ka is 18005 rs. What does that say about TN failing etc ? Whats your point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 @diga by your assertion ( std living based on per capita gdp) do you feel iraq has better or equal standard of living as china and all of iraq nauru guatamala etc have better standard of living than India ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diga Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Vilander said: Sure but how is that a point here. Imagine per capita of TN is 18k rs and Ka is 18005 rs. What does that say about TN failing etc ? Whats your point. Nothing...except that a difference in GDP of 100 or 500 crores doesn't make a difference and your examples don't hold much water.every state is making an effort to improve the quality of life of its citizens , not only TN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 13 minutes ago, diga said: BYD-Hyd is manufacturing buses in Kar and hopes for a contract from the state.. still not importing and no contract yet as you claimed yeah BMTC swayed because they wanted to buy 3 volvo buses from germany instead of 1 byd from china.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vilander Posted February 6, 2019 Share Posted February 6, 2019 1 minute ago, diga said: Nothing...except that a difference in GDP of 100 or 500 crores doesn't make a difference and your examples don't hold much water.every state is making an effort to improve the quality of life of its citizens , not only TN correct my argument is for-TN not against any other state ( as a matter of fact KA and GJ should overtake TN in GDP in a 3-5 year period ) there is nothing failing there in TN either - its based on social indicators, investment climate, monsoon and development - there is nothing failing in TN either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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