India-KXIP fan Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Almost every tour winning cyclist dopes in one way another whether they get caught or not. So it cancels out. Armstrong was OK but he only succeed in Tour de France. A true legend would have dominated all 3 majors, his domination in France is unparalleled but he was average in the other majors and didn't win a single one. Was suited for France terrain though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 :cantstop: If previous testimonies were enough, you can conjure up someone as a drug abuse by easily paying money to everyone. Half of them are either current cyclists or caught in a doping scandal. That's USADA report and version of it - even if this were true in my books USADA should be punished big time because they allowed such a thing to happen for years. Waiting for that to happen, until then. :bye: So we have 26 sworn testimonies and 15 of them from riders. Yet you dont believe them and still think armstrong is innocent, evev though he himself is not contesting anf fighting the charges, very strange for this innocent man to not contest:cantstop: Apparently in your story they have all been paid and its all a massive conspiracy:hysterical: What next 9/11 was done by bush/jews. Its all a conspiracy apprently:haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 So we have 26 sworn testimonies and 15 of them from riders. Yet you dont believe them and still think armstrong is innocent, evev though he himself is not contesting anf fighting the charges, very strange for this innocent man to not contest:cantstop: Apparently in your story they have all been paid and its all a massive conspiracy:hysterical: What next 9/11 was done by bush/jews. Its all a conspiracy apprently:haha: I will wait for the UCI verdict. If it accepts USADA's charges, I will believe Armstrong is a cheat if not I will kick your candy a-------ss! :finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India-KXIP fan Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 ^ :giggle: So we have 26 sworn testimonies and 15 of them from riders. Yet you dont believe them and still think armstrong is innocent' date=' evev though he himself is not contesting anf fighting the charges, [b']very strange for this innocent man to not contest:cantstop: Apparently in your story they have all been paid and its all a massive conspiracy:hysterical: What next 9/11 was done by bush/jews. Its all a conspiracy apprently:haha: Yeah haha, like an innocent would not contest losing 7 titles. :haha: But then most leaders dope, some get caught like Contador others dont. Like it was written in book (havent read it, but read about it) if careful its not too hard to remain undetected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Why should Lance Armstrong waste lawyer fees and his whole life earnings on few frivolous claims? I will wait for the UCI's verdict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted October 14, 2012 Share Posted October 14, 2012 Why should Lance Armstrong waste lawyer fees and his whole life earnings on few frivolous claims? I will wait for the UCI's verdict. hah hah I like your spirit in defence of your hero, despite overwhelming proof to the contrary. But your claim thats its just a few frivolous claims is an exaggaration I would be proud of:giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India-KXIP fan Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Why should Lance Armstrong waste lawyer fees and his whole life earnings on few frivolous claims? I will wait for the UCI's verdict. lol Ok, do you want a medal? :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav_12 Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 Didn't follow cycling much ever. So don't know the exact details of the case. I think this could be similar to the case of Florence Griffith. She was also never tested positive but almost everybody,incluiding me, believes that she was heavily into drugs. She had set records in 100 and 200 sprints some 25 years ago and since then nobody even threatened her records for once. So ridiculously low times she had set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 15, 2012 Share Posted October 15, 2012 hah hah I like your spirit in defence of your hero' date=' despite overwhelming proof to the contrary. But your claim thats its just a few frivolous claims is an exaggaration I would be proud of:giggle:[/quote'] Lance Armstrong is not my hero :dontknow: All I said was it will be premature to comment on the status of the story by just hearing one side of the coin. If UCI backs what you say, I will agree with you. Is that so difficult to understand King "Exaggerated" Tendulkar ? :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 17, 2012 Share Posted October 17, 2012 Armstrong quits as Livestrong chairman; Nike severs ties http://www.firstpost.com/sports/armstrong-quits-as-livestrong-chairman-nike-severs-ties-494029.html Feck! KT it seems you were right after all. Insurmountable evidence in rising against Lance Armstrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 KT, Seems you were right after all. Lance Armstrong banned from cycling and stripped all of his 7 Tour de France titles by the UCI ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 KT' date=' Seems you were right after all. Lance Armstrong banned from cycling and stripped all of his 7 Tour de France titles by the UCI ![/quote'] Told you so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crookbond Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Told you so! Yes I give that to you. I just do not want to jump into something unless everything is out. Anyways, it will be interesting to see if Armstrong now appeals in CAS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anotherhawkeye Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 ^ dexter got pawned :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 He should get some jail time, but it won't happen. This guy lied and cheated repeatedly and stole glory from others. Shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 First Tiger Wods and now Armstrong... people look up to them as inspirations and young kids all over the world take up these sports because of them and this is what some of these sports stars do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India-KXIP fan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Cyclist banned for cycling Anyway I still regard him as a Tour de France legend cause Im 100% certain all leading cyclists at least are doping in one way or another. It's just the way it is, and way to win. So doping advantages cancel out. I agree with what USA cycling coach said- "He's been kind of a scapegoat really. A lot of people have done it, probably everyone in his generation." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Cyclist banned for cycling Anyway I still regard him as a Tour de France legend cause Im 100% certain all leading cyclists at least are doping in one way or another. It's just the way it is, and way to win. So doping advantages cancel out. Wah!! so just because everyone in the sport cheats, Armstrong's cheating should not only be accepted but also celebrated .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
India-KXIP fan Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Wah!! so just because everyone in the sport cheats' date=' Armstrong's cheating should not only be accepted but also celebrated ..[/quote'] What I said is, as a cyclist he is great. Better than the others and deserved 7 time France champion. Not a legend though, couldn't win other 2 majors. Don't really give a fark about whether it should be accepted/celebrated. Just looking at it as it is. Armstrong was better than the others in France, and most of the others were doping especially the leaders. So as a cyclist that makes him better than the others. Only a few get caught, Armstrong, Contadour had alot of pressure as multiple time champions. But its easy to get away for others. Not hard to avoid testing positive if you know what your doing. Armstrong was the Messi of cycling, ahead of the others. However since cycling had a doping culture you had to dope to win. So the advantages probably cancelled out or close enough to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted October 22, 2012 Share Posted October 22, 2012 Sad story really. A sporting legend is fouund out to be a phoney and fake. There were always strong whispers about him right from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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