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Mods/Admins, whose post is the following post in the Delhi bashing locked thread ? http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417943&postcount=204 I Didnt post that message, how come it appears under my ID ? :omg: And regarding whatever it was that Rajeev or any other Mod had edited, I had NOT abused anyone personally ....It was Finey who had drawn the attention of all members that there was no need to get personal in an earlier post and had asked Ticz NOT to address me as "hari sankat"...of course Ticz has been doing that for ages , as well as so many other members but I had never complained about it or made it an issue. But I referred to Tics as "patheTIcz" and "Lunaticz"...is this OTT ? If so, just see the number of times I had been called many names including "loony" etc...but I laugh it off...and so I had posted to finey that I had no problem with Ticz or anyone calling me any name :eyedance: But if at all my post was edited for any reason, then how come some mod/admin had posted under my name ? Isnt that ID hijacking ? And how come that when Ticz was going on a merry spree against all Chennai fans, Chennai team and anything and everything Chennai....NO admin/mod ever edited any of his posts ? Ticz was just getting back what he had been dishing out to Chennai folks for weeks on end...everyone knows this..whether Chennai won or lost any game, Ticz and his tricks would make immediately 100 threads on Chennai bashing and no one ever restrained him...and now when Chennai folks give him back a taste of his own medicene, why do the Mods/admins apply one sided rules ? I had said so many times here that IF anyone goes OTT with regional bashing/personal name calling, then the ONLY way to make that person shut up or to make the Mods take notice is to give back in style...which is what many Chennai fans did yesterday..it was richly deserved and there is NO reason for Mods to apply rules only one way.. Apply it BOTH ways and see to it there is no Chennai/regional bashing that goes OTT or any namecalling goes OTT, if you want it to be effective...as long as it is one way, it is not gonna work btw...pls tell me who posted under my name ...

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The IP of that post is the same as the IP you just posted from, so some mod or admin had not posted under your name. And FWIW, the admin control panel doesn't allow admins to log in as other members. Could only have been you.

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WHEN WE EDIT STUFF, IT SHOWS OR NAME This is too much, again with your long posts complaining about edit stuff I am gonna nicely say it, you mentioned about Pathtics committing suicide in that post. I know it was a joke but we made it clear that you can't be personal and you did go over baord I am not gonna say much, last time some of them sympathized and if you gonna just start a thread bout every small thing, then I really don't think you should post comments at all I've had it, I would really love ICF'ers to rpely and tell me if I did anything wrong by editing suicide stuff ( which was personal ) and other mods to see where this is going If it was only upto me , I would handled it differently

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1. ID hijacking ? I don't think so. Rajeev just EDITED your post, he didn't log onto your account and post that message. Mods have the editing facility available to them and they can use it whenever they like (but tend not to most of the time). Not that i have a say in this, but i think you were out of line. 2. Cricketics never came close to spewing the kind of stuff you were putting out there in that thread. He already told you and everyone else not to take him seriously, but you still did.

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Relax guys, its only IPL for god's sake. Criticize the post not the poster. Then there will be no name calling. Btw, Hari mods have the ability to edit users post. But when they do, usually it shows ' edited by mod-name' Nothing to worry about though. Take it easy guyz and visit the ICF toons section and post something there :tounge_smile:

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WHEN WE EDIT STUFF' date= IT SHOWS OR NAME This is too much, again with your long posts complaining about edit stuff I am gonna nicely say it, you mentioned about Pathtics committing suicide in that post. I know it was a joke but we made it clear that you can't be personal and you did go over baord I am not gonna say much, last time some of them sympathized and if you gonna just start a thread bout every small thing, then I really don't think you should post comments at all I've had it, I would really love ICF'ers to rpely and tell me if I did anything wrong by editing suicide stuff ( which was personal ) and other mods to see where this is going If it was only upto me , I would handled it differently
You know it was a joke...I know it, everyone knows it....and tell me how many times Ticz had posted "hari sankat has gone loony"...."hari sankat has lost his mind" etc....am I supposed to take it seriously and scream " I have been called mentally insane"....NONSENSE....I had never ever complained once. How many times have so many members posted "pls shoot XYZ".. or jump off a cliff...or such posts...so all that has to be taken as "murder" , "suicide" etc ??LOL...man it is YOU who has lost it. By the way , I know you edited it...but why did you POST a message to myself in my post...see the post...if you had any comments, put it in COMMENTS...NOT in the body of the post itself....read that post and see, your comments appear as something I had posted originally..Did I post any message addressed to myself ?? LOL

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I was just trying to fix things, infact I was against merging threads so people could have their fun but when you start pointing fingers like this, then its just 2 much..u think I like this immature behavior, but when u in a realm of forums, it starts to become reality

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You know it was a joke...I know it' date=' everyone knows it....and tell me how many times Ticz had posted "hari sankat has gone loony"...."hari sankat has lost his mind" etc....am I supposed to take it seriously and scream " I have been called mentally insane"....NONSENSE....I had never ever complained once.?? LOL[/quote'] There is a much easier way you can deal with this, you know. If you feel SO offended, then feel free to use it...

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The IP of that post is the same as the IP you just posted from' date=' so some mod or admin had not posted under your name. And FWIW, the admin control panel doesn't allow admins to log in as other members. Could only have been you.[/quote'] That ID is of course mine, everyone knows it...BUT that post which says "YOU ARE GETTING PERSONAL AGAIN HARI, last request..please don't go overboard with the personal stuff" and appears in the BODY of the msg is NOT mine....It is Rajeev's edit and if it is a comment...it has to appear below in "comments"....fine, okay with me...but if it appears within the post, it makes it seem I posted those sentences...got it ??

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You know it was a joke...I know it, everyone knows it....and tell me how many times Ticz had posted "hari sankat has gone loony"...."hari sankat has lost his mind" etc....am I supposed to take it seriously and scream " I have been called mentally insane"....NONSENSE....I had never ever complained once. How many times have so many members posted "pls shoot XYZ".. or jump off a cliff...or such posts...so all that has to be taken as "murder" , "suicide" etc ??LOL...man it is YOU who has lost it. By the way , I know you edited it...but why did you POST a message to myself in my post...see the post...if you had any comments, put it in COMMENTS...NOT in the body of the post itself....read that post and see, your comments appear as something I had posted originally..Did I post any message addressed to myself ?? LOL
The point was so that you see it and others take a note of it, I have edited other stuff today as well, there is a level playing field, like he said/she said and its over right. Now, how far does this go back? can u tell me and if u ask tics, I have asked him to cool it too, I have edited predz stuff as well and asked him to watch it as well You were on a roll, one post after the other..it's lke you read the posts, u smiile , u smile again and then ewww..man this needs to stop..fom delhi duds to pathetics and lunatics, and then commit suicide..yes, it went really OTT so I edited it

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That ID is of course mine, everyone knows it...BUT that post which says "YOU ARE GETTING PERSONAL AGAIN HARI, last request..please don't go overboard with the personal stuff" and appears in the BODY of the msg is NOT mine....It is Rajeev's edit and if it is a comment...it has to appear below in "comments"....fine, okay with me...but if it appears within the post, it makes it seem I posted those sentences...got it ??
You could have simply sent a nice lovely PM to Rajeev about this instead of writing such a long ass essay :P I know its one of your ploy to pocket some ICF $, but it should not be used this often :--D Peace

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That ID is of course mine, everyone knows it...BUT that post which says "YOU ARE GETTING PERSONAL AGAIN HARI, last request..please don't go overboard with the personal stuff" and appears in the BODY of the msg is NOT mine....It is Rajeev's edit and if it is a comment...it has to appear below in "comments"....fine, okay with me...but if it appears within the post, it makes it seem I posted those sentences...got it ??
ok that seems fair enough Hari. Mods, why dont you use the 'quote' feature when you edit the user's comments. something like
comments here
[edit] actually, Hari it shows who edited it. Perhaps it is new to you thats why it may seem strange. On almost all forums, this is normal procedures by mods.

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I was just trying to fix things' date=' infact I was against merging threads so people could have their fun but when you start pointing fingers like this, then its just 2 much..u think I like this immature behavior, but when u in a realm of forums, it starts to become reality[/quote'] See my OP...I had very much said if you have rules have it for everyone....no problem...if you edit OTT comments even knowing it is a joke...do it for ALL...not just some selected members...IF you apply mods policy apply it EQUALLY..if you have policy on name calling apply it EQUALLY...that is the crux of what I have always been saying. Dont have one set of rules for me and Chennai and another set of rules for Ticz and Delhi

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You could have simply sent a nice lovely PM to Rajeev about this instead of writing such a long ass essay :P I know its one of your ploy to pocket some ICF $, but it should not be used this often :--D Peace
same way...Rajeev could have sent me a nice lovely PM telling me he wants the post edited, even though he knew it was just a joke and I would have not only edited but also sent Rajeev a nice lovely PM ....it has happened many times before :--D ( I have plenty of ICF dollahs, but still I am jealous of Rajeev who is a billionaire...and hey dont block honest efforts to make more money :eyedance: )

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lud, one of the reasons we edit comments is to remove things that are inappropriate and should not be on the forum (particularly given that there's a range of people who read this board, ranging from youngsters to those who do from a workplace where such things would be very inappropriate). If Rajeev edited Hari's post to remove that sort of abuse, I'm fairly sure Hari crossed that line and went OTT with something that was not permitted by the basic rules on here.

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See my OP...I had very much said if you have rules have it for everyone....no problem...if you edit OTT comments even knowing it is a joke...do it for ALL...not just some selected members...IF you apply mods policy apply it EQUALLY..if you have policy on name calling apply it EQUALLY...that is the crux of what I have always been saying. Dont have one set of rules for me and Chennai and another set of rules for Ticz and Delhi
U would think so, coz u want to here http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417746&postcount=126 http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417800&postcount=161 ------------- About editing, here is another example of mine http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417894&postcount=184 --------- How it went OTT Your post Delhi deadbodies arse raped, buggered, humiliated, facked, nose held to gutter, smell the sh1t....and STFU about other teams like CSK....for us, we have already WON IPL....this is gang rape of the Delhi deadweights/dumbarses Even when CSK chased a huge 211 against Royals, we scared them into hell and got to 201....but Dilli ....facking buncha writhing crawling slithering losahs.......got arse raped and gangbanged and faces rubbed into sh1t...TAKE THAT Delhi dumbarse PatheTICZ diarreaoh of Delhi ....facking.....shoulda been Delhi schoolkidz... Royals should be arrested for gangraping minors .....facking Delhi should play all village teams next year for qualifying Delhi should play Jharkand jackassses....Chirrapunji chokers ( all matches washed out).....Srinagar slippers....Cochins Sachins.....plus Ganganagar gangsters...ALL of whom will THRASH Delhi front and back......tournament to be dedicated to the memory of ICF lunaTICZ and Chennai hater PatheTICZ Kumblerocks pleads http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417908&postcount=191 Fineys Post olkz, Pls avoid the member-to-member name calling. Cricketicz is alrite, just over-enthu at many times. We can give taste of same medicine by dilli duds threads -no need to name call people. Same applies to ticz - call Hari Sampath as Hari Sampath, not as Sankat. Fineys Post again pls. dont abuse members. Stick to bashing the team and players. Ofcourse rajma snifferz and pyjama-wale is supposedly game, since sambhar sniffers is supposed to be game by those with predator-ial instincts. But lets not go overboard. My request hari, and others...he said.she said..all over OK Please dont go over board, and no personal calls plzzz..enough Shwetabh edits your post http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=417942&postcount=203 Still going OTT Dilli....Dilli....ROFLMAO ...facking thrashed by 105 runs....87 allout ......OMG.....this has knocked Ticz in the head so bad....he has become sane once again ....Ticz learning to count now Shwetabhs Post I must say a lot of 'tics posts earlier were genuinely funny whereas barring a few the Chennai fans have been pretty lame and sometimes very personal.

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But one thing is sure now, (maybe not ) - after so much drama, the opposition wouldn't create a ruckus if Chennai loses Perhaps they are waiting and save all the posts as a draft already

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The point was so that you see it and others take a note of it, I have edited other stuff today as well, there is a level playing field, like he said/she said and its over right. Now, how far does this go back? can u tell me and if u ask tics, I have asked him to cool it too, I have edited predz stuff as well and asked him to watch it as well You were on a roll, one post after the other..it's lke you read the posts, u smiile , u smile again and then ewww..man this needs to stop..fom delhi duds to pathetics and lunatics, and then commit suicide..yes, it went really OTT so I edited it
Delhi DUDS is a fact...and not OTT....everyone calls them Delhi Duds yesterday patheticz and lunaticz is NOT OTT if "hari sankat" , "chennai vanars"...and "rajnikantz" are all okay....AND this is not once/twice....Ticz has been dedicating multiple threads for this...but myself or other chennaiites never complained last 2 weeks... "commit suicide"...is not meant to ask Ticz to go and kill himself !!! I am sure even he doesnt think so...and if anyone asks me to "jump into a lake"...or "hang yourself, I will give a rope"....doesnt mean I take it seriously as a suggestion to kill myself, come on this is a MB and no one is a child to be psychiatrically affected by all this....( well I dont know about Ticz...especially after yesterday's Delhi game :giggle: )..but I am sure he would like to stay alive despite what members tell here Of course you can edit....but dont make any comments in the body of msg which makes it seem I wrote those words...if you edit ( and thats your job, I agree)...pls mention your comments separately...there is a provision for that.

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Two words Hari - Drama Queen. :handkiss: Kai ko aaltoo faltoo drama kar rahe ho boss? Its much ado about nothing. Let it go.
Damn you. Yeh Kya keh diya aapne bhai. We will have to bare yet another 10,000 line essay over that name calling :banghead:

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Edit the post, no problem, but make sure none of your words appear as mine....add it as "comment"...not part of message. Because sometimes posts are edited for a few words...some words are deleted..and Mods edit status appears at bottom, but if you ADD comments in main message, it appears as MY comments which it is not,...dont make your words look like mine. Just one example....let us say I post a sentence with an abuse

"XYZ is a ******** "
The above will be my original message...and you have every right to edit it....but if you do it and add your comment/words to it, it can appear as follows...
"XYZ is a ................" what a juvenile post please dont post garbage "
edited by Rajeev at 10.05 AM... The above edit with your comments "what a juvenile post, please dont post garbage" will make it appear that your comments are my words originally.....and even if the edit status appears below, how will others know whether I posted those words or it was your comments ? That is why I say edit all you want, comment all you want, but make sure it has clarity.

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Two words Hari - Drama Queen. :handkiss: Kai ko aaltoo faltoo drama kar rahe ho boss? Its much ado about nothing. Let it go.
That is a fantastic play written by the Bard of Avon...I am sure you have read it Lurks, thanks for comparing me to the immortal literary genius ( Its a great skill to create a 10,000 word essay over a two word abuse....and I am glad you appreciate it :--D )

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Hari, just to keep it short - even though I did not edit much around I can understand why some of the stuff got edited out - things like ar$e raped, motherfackers(not sure if it was your post, but I remember editing the reference in some post) etc. are not on. Lunaticz, patheticz etc. has been going on for a long long time from both sides which is all fine but in the name of free speech there is a lot of unwarranted and needless abuse which goes on at times. Normally, we try to just gleam over it in the hope things will calm down on their own and to the posters credit 95% of the times the hands off policy works, but on rare occasions we really have to clean up things. Not many people visit the site to read an abusefest. In fact, there are some kids etc. who also visit the site. I remember Chandan's son used to log in here, but she had to restrict access because at times things are too abusive. You say that ICF is close to you and we have no doubts that it is, so we need to all contribute to making it a place to discuss everything and not to abuse.

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PS: Reading the thread in a bit more detail I think your major gripe is that while editing Rajeev put his comments into the text part of the message - we do it occasionally for emphasis but in all cases it's pretty obvious who has done it. Sometimes a small footnote in the edit comments reason can go unnoticed. If you are so sensitive about it, we can try to have something like, Rajeev : TEXT written out to emphasize it's written by Rajeev. We try to be fair and equal to all and the accusation that we have been favoring Delhi over Chennai as an admin/mod team won't be bought by anyone I think. Sure, we can't be 100% consistent all the time - there are many people moderating the forum and use their instincts to make decisions not some computer software. There are many things we can be accused of but one thing I am certain about bias towards or against a particular group is not one of them - I am willing to go to the floor on that one!

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^ That was exactly the point ...about the Mod's comment appearing as my words. In another thread some 3-4 months back, I had brought this issue up when threads were being merged. Sometimes Mods are required to merge threads, and do so by appending a couple of threads to another thread and then giving it their own title...fine, but sometimes this gives the impression that some member had created a thread under that title, and that member may have never intended it that way. Same about spawned threads being created as entirely separate threads and a title given. I remember that several posts from a particular thread were once cut away to form a new thread and with a title suggesting it was Tendulkar bashing, under my name. The Mod may not have intended it, but it gave the impression I had started a Tendulkar bashing thread which I certainly did not...that is the sort of Mod/admin action I am rferring to.

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^ And after that happened weren't we able to sort out the matter in which all of us walked away happy - the mods made their point about some other thread meandering into a different topic and you were given the option of choosing your own title for the thread? Do such minor things require such major drama? If you were seriously so offended by Rajeev putting a message there, all you had to do was PM Rajeev/one of the other mods and asked them to change it from just the pure text to something like what I suggested above. Don't think we required all this hoopla for such a minor thing. And I hope you understand why we on occasions(rarely) put our message in the main text rather than in the comments - purely for emphasis and visibility rather than an attempt to hijack someone's ID.

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but we were able to sort it out only AFTER I pointed it out....right ?...and so pointing it out is "major drama" ? Well I tell you, I dont think anything is worth "major drama", because this is just a discussion board, and will stay just that. But at the very least, the key issue for any discussion board should be the principle that "let everyone's words/topics/threads be their own"...and let not the admins/mods speak for others here...to my mind that is the first principle of freedom of speech : clarity about who said what...and in any MB I dont think it is a minor issue.

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IMO..Let those two involved decide whether they like these psuedo names or Not.. those who live by swords..die by it... 'Tics and Hari both are equally able to give back to each other... Chennai fans are after 'Tics and Preds... so if those two or Chennai fans do not complain about anything....we should not try to intervene much... but one thing is sure...'tics know how to sledge..and yet be funny... chennai needs to learn the art of sledging...:giggle: PEACE

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^ And after that happened weren't we able to sort out the matter in which all of us walked away happy - the mods made their point about some other thread meandering into a different topic and you were given the option of choosing your own title for the thread? Do such minor things require such major drama? If you were seriously so offended by Rajeev putting a message there, all you had to do was PM Rajeev/one of the other mods and asked them to change it from just the pure text to something like what I suggested above. Don't think we required all this hoopla for such a minor thing. And I hope you understand why we on occasions(rarely) put our message in the main text rather than in the comments - purely for emphasis and visibility rather than an attempt to hijack someone's ID.
I tell you again, I was in no way "offended"....and my words about "ID hijack" was just rhetorical, I never suggested that truly my ID was hijacked...by the same token, if that text was put in for emphasis, Rajeev/mods could well emphasise to me by sending me a PM...why all this hoopa of " Last request for you Hari"....and all sorts of prominent "warnings" ...just because I said Lunaticz or hang yourself or whatever...and if that offended Rajeev...or Ticz, same way I could have been PMd and asked to eidt it, ...although Rajeev himself says he knows it was a joke, why all this hoopla on an MB about these minor things ??

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but we were able to sort it out only AFTER I pointed it out....right ?...and so pointing it out is "major drama" ? Well I tell you, I dont think anything is worth "major drama", because this is just a discussion board, and will stay just that. But at the very least, the key issue for any discussion board should be the principle that "let everyone's words/topics/threads be their own"...and let not the admins/mods speak for others here...to my mind that is the first principle of freedom of speech : clarity about who said what...and in any MB I dont think it is a minor issue.
Arre baba there are many ways of pointing out things - you can either quietly PM the people concerned and try to sort it out there as a first attempt of you can start a thread on the forums with a huge OP. Personally, I am a big fan of the first option and not a big fan of the second one. Do you really think any of the mods would have objected if you had written a PM that the Tendulkar thread title needs to be changed or that it's not clear in the post that Rajeev edited who wrote the words and to make it clear. My bet is as soon as one of the mods would have read the PM, he would have corrected things because from a moderation standpoint both were trivial issues. Regarding your second paragraph about clarity of who wrote what - agreed but with the footnote saying the name of the editor and the text of the message being such that for most people would find it obvious, Rajeev did not make the extra emphasis. We'll try to put a Rajeev : TEXT kind of format in the future if we are putting our words in the text.

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IMO..Let those two involved decide whether they like these psuedo names or Not.. those who live by swords..die by it... 'Tics and Hari both are equally able to give back to each other... Chennai fans are after 'Tics and Preds... so if those two or Chennai fans do not complain about anything....we should not try to intervene much... but one thing is sure...'tics know how to sledge..and yet be funny... chennai needs to learn the art of sledging...:giggle: PEACE
LOL...Ticz "sledging" is positively juvenile...all about food, actors, language...twisting ppl's names etc....kind of 3rd rate stuff from intellectually challenged 4th grade kids :giggle: Chennai doesnt need sledging....we win , and Delhi needs more than patheTiCz sledging, they need some cricket and brains, both are in huge shortage :D

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I tell you again' date=' I was in no way "offended"....and my words about "ID hijack" was just rhetorical, I never suggested that truly my ID was hijacked...by the same token, if that text was put in for emphasis, Rajeev/mods could well emphasise to me by sending me a PM...why all this hoopa of " Last request for you Hari"....and all sorts of prominent "warnings" ...just because I said Lunaticz or hang yourself or whatever...and if that offended Rajeev...or Ticz, same way I could have been PMd and asked to eidt it, ...although Rajeev himself says he knows it was a joke, why all this hoopla on an MB about these minor things ??[/quote'] Hari yaar we are doing a thankless job. When all this drama was going on, Rajeev and I were the only active mods online - both of us were at work and the priority for him as for me would have been to clean out the offensive bits atleast - and there were quite a few threads to keep track of. Moreover some of the threads were laden with such flowery language that they could not be kept open for too long from work, atleast by me as I was in a conference room in a meeting while all this was going on! With so much going on, it's understandable we are going to take some quick actions which might not adhere to all ideals. But this thread of yours is hours after all of it happened and could easily have been done through PM. Anyways, maybe the 'tics suicide post was edited by Rajeev but I am sure even he would agree it was the other posts like MFs, gangrape, ar$eraped etc. which were more offensive.

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Arre baba there are many ways of pointing out things - you can either quietly PM the people concerned and try to sort it out there as a first attempt of you can start a thread on the forums with a huge OP. Personally, I am a big fan of the first option and not a big fan of the second one. Do you really think any of the mods would have objected if you had written a PM that the Tendulkar thread title needs to be changed or that it's not clear in the post that Rajeev edited who wrote the words and to make it clear. My bet is as soon as one of the mods would have read the PM, he would have corrected things because from a moderation standpoint both were trivial issues. Regarding your second paragraph about clarity of who wrote what - agreed but with the footnote saying the name of the editor and the text of the message being such that for most people would find it obvious, Rajeev did not make the extra emphasis. We'll try to put a Rajeev : TEXT kind of format in the future if we are putting our words in the text.
Simple enough why I did it by starting a thread. I wanted all mods/admins to note that editing as well as merging/ creating new threads has an important aspect of respecting the posting rights/spirit of posting topics by members. If I had just PMd Rajeev he would have just corrected his comment and it would not have served the purpose of other Mods/admin taking note of this issue. Why did Rajeev had to "prominently" post his comment on my post...you say emphasis...when the same thing could have been achieved by PMing me...fine, no probs...same way I prominently made this editing/comments/thread title a separate thread for emphasis on this very important aspect of MB moderation.

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If the posters lose semblance and can't restrain themselves from posting without having to resort to slurs the posts will need to be edited. There is no debate about this one. It doesn't matter who's the poster but will have to be edited. This isn't the first time posts have been edited simply because the language of the post is not befitting for our website. Several mods/admins posts have also been edited in the past because of this policy and there will be no exception made regardless of who the poster is. If you want to retaliate to a poster do so but without having to use slurs. I’m sure it’s not asking for too much. The language on these forums sometimes concerns me knowing fully well there are some young lads that lurk these forums. I wouldn’t let my kids to read this forum that’s for sure.

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Hari yaar we are doing a thankless job. When all this drama was going on, Rajeev and I were the only active mods online - both of us were at work and the priority for him as for me would have been to clean out the offensive bits atleast - and there were quite a few threads to keep track of. Moreover some of the threads were laden with such flowery language that they could not be kept open for too long from work, atleast by me as I was in a conference room in a meeting while all this was going on! With so much going on, it's understandable we are going to take some quick actions which might not adhere to all ideals. But this thread of yours is hours after all of it happened and could easily have been done through PM. Anyways, maybe the 'tics suicide post was edited by Rajeev but I am sure even he would agree it was the other posts like MFs, gangrape, ar etc. which were more offensive
NOW you begin to get it...I completely agree that mofos, arserape etc are all offensive...( although I used only 2 times)...but that apart,almost half of matchthreads have these terms and almost all regular matchthread junkies use such/similar terms. why is it that it is always just MY "offensive words" are pointed out by rajeev or Mods or admins....and especially when they are all in response. This is the 3rd time it is happening and I do use them deliberatley sometimes because ONLY THEN the mods see the original offensive usage. Ticz is perhaps one of the biggest users of such terms on ICF...and his threads have a plethora of BCs and MCs ALL the time...I had NEVER seen Rajeev eidt out anything or post "prominent" comments...but the moment I post anything supposedly "offensive" then comes all the action. It is precisely this I wanted to bring to everyone's attention. Only when I post such things, the process of "editing" begins and THEN only others' comments are also edited...( but of course I am warned , and not others)

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NOW you begin to get it...I completely agree that mofos, arserape etc are all offensive...( although I used only 2 times)...but that apart,almost half of matchthreads have these terms and almost all regular matchthread junkies use such/similar terms. why is it that it is always just MY "offensive words" are pointed out by rajeev or Mods or admins....and especially when they are all in response. This is the 3rd time it is happening and I do use them deliberatley sometimes because ONLY THEN the mods see the original offensive usage. Ticz is perhaps one of the biggest users of such terms on ICF...and his threads have a plethora of BCs and MCs ALL the time...I had NEVER seen Rajeev eidt out anything or post "prominent" comments...but the moment I post anything supposedly "offensive" then comes all the action. It is precisely this I wanted to bring to everyone's attention. Only when I post such things, the process of "editing" begins and THEN only others' comments are also edited...( but of course I am warned , and not others)
Mr. Hari Sampath, there is no conspiracy against you and if you kindly open your eyes, you will see I see have taken care of many such posts ( predator included ) ; I'd like to mention that while others get the point, you in turn open a new thread asking for explanation. I have modded in much hostile environment than this and I play it fair, so if you think there is a plan to just pick your posts then I am afraid you are mistaken

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^Ok fine' date=' so can we move forward to Chennai's thrashing tomorrow now?:-D[/quote'] You mean Chennai's thrashing of Punjab 11 for the 3rd time....welcome to the party....and yet again a slugfest is on...especially after CSK wins, because all CSK haterz..and Punjabiz fans will be out in strength , swinging left and right, with able assistance from the DD fans....and CSK fans will be rubbing it in bigtime...and we need all possible mods/admins here tonite :-D

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Can't believe that Hari Sampat is on the wrong side of the 40's . Act your age ' date='Macha ![/quote'] If I act 40, I wouldnt be able to hold a conversation with anyone here machchi....I have to "act" 20 and as a juvenile here.....when in Rome.....:-D

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NOW you begin to get it...I completely agree that mofos, arserape etc are all offensive...( although I used only 2 times)...but that apart,almost half of matchthreads have these terms and almost all regular matchthread junkies use such/similar terms. why is it that it is always just MY "offensive words" are pointed out by rajeev or Mods or admins
That your posts are singled out is not true at all - offensive language gets edited for everyone. As Ravi pointed out above, we've also edited offensive language posted by mods and admins. Personally speaking even some of my threads and posts have been binned, but it's all for the good of the site. And when that has happened I have not even questioned the other mods who have edited/deleted my posts even in private. Match threads, sometimes become difficult to regulate because of the excessive volume of posts in a short span if there are only 1-2 mods following them, but among other threads offensive language gets edited regularly.
and especially when they are all in response. This is the 3rd time it is happening and I do use them deliberatley sometimes because ONLY THEN the mods see the original offensive usage.
In response? I don't remember 'tics writing a post about Chennai getting ar$efacked and gangraped or calling Chennai motherfackers. I might have missed it and if you bring it up I'll happily edit it out. "tics and a lot of posters in match threads do use OTT words when someone drops a catch, hits a six etc. but as I said match threads are at times difficult to regulate and are also given a bit more leverage due to the emotions riding during a match.
Ticz is perhaps one of the biggest users of such terms on ICF...and his threads have a plethora of BCs and MCs ALL the time...I had NEVER seen Rajeev eidt out anything or post "prominent" comments...but the moment I post anything supposedly "offensive" then comes all the action. It is precisely this I wanted to bring to everyone's attention. Only when I post such things, the process of "editing" begins and THEN only others' comments are also edited...( but of course I am warned , and not others)
Yaar half the time he uses those words to praise someone - things like Sehwag what a ba$tard hitter etc. Having said that we have edited his posts also.

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Mr. Hari Sampath, there is no conspiracy against you and if you kindly open your eyes, you will see I see have taken care of many such posts ( predator included ) ; I'd like to mention that while others get the point, you in turn open a new thread asking for explanation. I have modded in much hostile environment than this and I play it fair, so if you think there is a plan to just pick your posts then I am afraid you are mistaken
Oh no, I dont think tghere is any conspiracy against me...but I do think you have tunnel vision when it comes to ignoring certain posts from certain posters, till you are forced to take note...but you are far more ready to "pick" same offences by certain other posters...btw, we have had this discussion before...and I wasnt wrong even then..

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I had to act diplomatically the last time, to let it go. I really don't want to explain my tunnel vision as the other end will see what they want to see anyways so no point I' see there is a need to have the last word, so kindly go ahead but let me be really clear that I really don't pick on your posts, infact I'll let Shwetbah handle that from now on

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^ shwethabh.....just do a search of those terms and see how often "arserape"..."fack" etc occur, and not just on match threads...I mean in all threads...ICF is definitely a forum where there is plenty of cussing, and profanity...ALL the members are party to this, and if free speech is what ICF wants, profanity is what you get...so I just said have same rules across the board, and apply it equally across the board...or just leave it alone....as Ravi said he wouldnt want his kid to see this forum....this is of course NO place for kids whose parents are sensitive to the language they are exposed to...but then neither is this world a place for ANY kid to be exposed to, and the internet is centric to this.

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