saneindian Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Another huge factor in favour of Modi is his resourcefulness for the BJP. With the corporate India firmly behind him, he could be the biggest fund raiser for the party and would surely demand his due. There were media reports which said BJP was short of funds in the UP assembly elections and one of the primary reasons given was the lack of money flowing from Gujarat as Modi wasn't on talking terms with Gadkari. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Nitish Kumar as NDA's PM candidate? He will struggle to win in Bihar if he parts ways with the BJP. Also' date= assuming Modi is BJP's PM candidate and Nitish Kumar decides to break ties with BJP, the only other option for him would be to tie up with the Congress and add Ram Vilas Paswan (who has a hold over 4-5% dalit votes across Bihar). On its own, the JDU will not win a majority in Bihar given the caste equations in the state. Ram Vilas Paswan won't be much of a factor in Nitish Kumar's decision to join one coalition or the other because his party has now become very, very weak and he no longer has the same influence as before. I agree that JDU on its own will definitely not win a majority in Bihar - in fact in the last Assembly elections BJP won more than 90% of the seats it contested while JDU won around 85% of the seats it contested - so they are nearly equal in Bihar. Next question is how much appeal does he have outside Bihar? Also, how can someone with a group of no more than 21-22 LS seats expect to be the leader of a stable coalition government? IMO he doesn't have any appeal outside Bihar. In the recent elections in UP he came to campaign for JDU and such was the sorry state of affairs that in 2 cases even the candidate failed to turn up for his meetings :hysterical: I am certain that as long as both BJP and Cong win over 120 seats in the Lok Sabha elections, the question of selecting the PM from such a small party like JDU will not arise. And I don't think any of the equally "large" regional parties and their leaders like Mayawati, MSY, Jayalalitha, Mamta will accept him as the PM candidate because they would all think that they themselves are equally capable. Modi is the BJP's best bet if it decides to name a PM candidate for 2014. As good as Arun Jaitley is, he has absolutely no mass base of his own. A very good strategist, but never a mass leader. The comparison with Vajpayee isn't quite correct either. Vajpayee on his own won the BJP at least 40-50 seats in the late 90s propelling the NDA to power. Don't think Jaitley has the charisma to win even 10-15 seats. The other candidates are Sushma Swaraj who doesn't have as much wider acceptability in the party. Among the BJP CMs, Dr. Raman Singh could be a dark horse if it comes to deciding a consensus candidate but don't see BJP fighting the 2014 elections with him as their PM candidate. Jaitley does not have any appeal among the rural people but he has a very good image among the urban people and they comprise the biggest part of the BJP's voters so if he can capitalize of that strength then he can be a formidable candidate. He also looks like one who can manage a coalition Govt and has a proven track record as a good strategist. He may not be very successful as the PM candidate but if the BJP goes to polls without a leader and then wins enough seats then IMO he would be the front runner for the PM's post because he would be acceptable to the allies and to a large section of the BJP. Sushma Swaraj is one of the few BJP leaders who have some mass base among the Rural people but she seems to have the "foot in the mouth" disease and as you correctly said, she doesn't have wider acceptability. Modi's projection as PM will see en-mass voting by the muslims in favour of the congress but that will also lead to polarization of the Hindu votes, primarily the middle class voters from urban and semi urban centres in North and West, the very same group which voted for MMS in 2009 as the PM and which is disenchanted with the UPA govt's appalling performance. A highly polarised election scenario with a positive agenda for development (without too much harping on any anti muslim agenda like 2009) would work the best for the BJP if it has to reach 175+ seats. Else it will never go beyond 130-140 seats. With around 175 seats, the likes of Jayalalitha, Naveen Patnaik and other smaller groups with 15-20 seats would be easier to co-opt into the NDA fold. Modi's excellent personal rapport with Jaya and Patnaik would also come handy in such a scenario. The days of the polarization of the Hindu votes are over and those voters won't come together to vote for one party again unless something like Ayodhya happens again. Modi will only help to bring all the anti BJP parties to one common platform with the Congress. Then there's also the bigger question of Modi's appeal outside Gujarat - till date he has campaigned in many states elections but has failed to leave his mark in any of them so I really don't think he can be the National Leader BJP is looking for. Methinks BJP will go into Lok Sabha 2014 without a leader and then after the elections if the results are favorable then they will select a leader. This will definitely lead to much infighting before the elections and will hurt the party but I don't see the BJP deciding the leadership issue before the elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Another huge factor in favour of Modi is his resourcefulness for the BJP. With the corporate India firmly behind him' date=' he could be the biggest fund raiser for the party and would surely demand his due. There were media reports which said BJP was short of funds in the UP assembly elections and one of the primary reasons given was the lack of money flowing from Gujarat as Modi wasn't on talking terms with Gadkari.[/quote'] BJP leaders criticize Narendra Modi fund-raising drive Link :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saneindian Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Are ye chote chote 100-200 crores ki baat choro, I was referring to the corporate funding from the bigger corporate houses. BTW always take TOI Ahmedabad's edition news about Modi with a pinch of salt. They have been running a sustained campaign against him ever since TOI Journo Manoj Mitta's name figured in the SIT report as one who prominently drafted Sanjiv Bhatt's affidavit along with Teesta Setalvad. They even dragged SIT chief Raghavan in their anit Modi campaign but had to retract from their 'exclusive' about Gujarat Govt paying for Raghavan's UK trip. If you were to go by TOI Ahmedabad's reports, Modi has already lost the Gujrat assembly elections, such is the bias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 lol you guys are making plans how BJP can come into power .Mark my words, BJP willl never come to Power again .Its Cong Congress and Congress from here on.Once they project Modi as a PM, alll anti Modi votes will Polarize against BJP and they will lose more votes in turn .Modi is King of Gujarat ,but he is not even chaprasi outside gujrat . Mind you, I seriously don't care anymore ,as I have decided to vote only independent,and waste my vote because any likeness for both these national parties has gone blown now [ No more BJP or COngi for me ]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSK Fan Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 Modi might have done mistakes during Godhra. But that guy is bloody brilliant. Hats off to him to make Gujarat what it is today. The problem is that most of India and rest of the world does not see genocide as just 'mistakes' And you talk about Modi devoloping Gujrat. Do you know the numbers before Modi was CM? Gujrat was already a success tory and no matter who would have been CM would have developed at similar rate. If you really want to see grassroot success, look at Bihar under Nitish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kabira Posted June 2, 2012 Share Posted June 2, 2012 ^actually agree partly, When he took over Gujarat had gone through deadly earthquake. Plus its not only industry, the agricultural growth is best in entire India..You need to give him credit for that for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1983-2011 Posted June 2, 2012 Author Share Posted June 2, 2012 RSS mouthpiece questions Narendra Modi's style of functioning NEW DELHI: In yet another instance of growing feud within BJP and the Sangh Parivar, an article in a RSS mouthpiece has criticised Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi for his style of functioning and also indicated that the party has several other Prime Ministerial candidates. The article, which figures in the latest issue of 'Panchajanya,' says it is being felt that Modi needs to do a rethink about his style of functioning and organisational capabilities. "The role of Narendra Modi in the Sanjay Joshi episode at BJP's national executive meeting in Mumbai is worth pondering over," the article states. Modi had insisted that he will attend the conclave only if his bete noire Sanjay Joshi resigns from BJP national executive. The party bowed to his demand. The article further points out that it is a mystery why Modi, a staunch believer of the Sangh ideology, could not deal with his anger towards his fellow RSS worker Joshi. "By making the presence of Sanjay Joshi at the BJP national executive a prestige issue, why did he (Modi) give the media an opportunity to spread misinformation about the Sangh and BJP?" the article said. In a dig at Modi's Prime Ministerial ambitions, the article also states that BJP has several chief ministers and central leaders who are capable of being its Prime Ministerial candidate and hence the decision on this matter should be made after the general elections. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/RSS-mouthpiece-questions-Narendra-Modis-style-of-functioning/articleshow/13745366.cms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehwag1830 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Anti-Modi show bombs, Keshubhai tries old lines The much-hyped show of strength held by former chief minister Keshubhai Patel against Chief Minister Narendra Modi at Dholka town in Ahmedabad district on Saturday evening turned out to be damp squib with hardly 3,000-odd people turning up at the venue against the expected 50,000.:hysterical::hysterical: http://www.indianexpress.com/news/antimodi-show-bombs-keshubhai-tries-old-lines/957263/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Mainey pehle hi kaha tha. All these guys are past their expiry date. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saneindian Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Darr ke aage jeet hai, lol this is Keshubhai's slogan! As we enter the last few months before the Gujarat elections, expect the anti-Modi camp (including our mainstream media) to raise the pitch. The Gujrat congress has even been talking of soft Hindutva to take on Modi as Modi would harp on his development agenda. They talked of communalism, boomranged miserably, talked of corruption, couldn't trap Modi, off late some of them are talking of how the HDI for Gujrat in certain aspects are quite poor and why Modi cannot be called a development icon, some going to the extent of calling him anti Hindu for the convictions of 2002 riot accused by the courts! Read TOI Ahmedabad for more fun :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Darr ke aage jeet hai, lol this is Keshubhai's slogan! As we enter the last few months before the Gujarat elections, expect the anti-Modi camp (including our mainstream media) to raise the pitch. The Gujrat congress has even been talking of soft Hindutva to take on Modi as Modi would harp on his development agenda. They talked of communalism, boomranged miserably, talked of corruption, couldn't trap Modi, off late some of them are talking of how the HDI for Gujrat in certain aspects are quite poor and why Modi cannot be called a development icon, some going to the extent of calling him anti Hindu for the convictions of 2002 riot accused by the courts! Read TOI Ahmedabad for more fun :) If not for anything else, I want Modi to become the PM so that he can get rid of this "secular" english media. That will go a long way towards fixing the psyche of this nation. In many ways the English media is as much (if not more so) anti national than kaangress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehwag1830 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Nah it is more Congress funded media. Congress through its department DAVP has bought many Indian media agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Needforspeed Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Manmohan Singh is the laughing stock of the whole world. He has messed up everything including the economy. We need someone like Modi. But Modi's biggest enemies are within the BJP itself. That's been our tragedy all along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl1985 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Actually India has a stellar record of 'looking the other way' when it comes to crimes .... Atleast when it comes to crimes on Hindus and Sikhs. And Iam pretty darn sure that you know this very well but will continue to play the usual dead beat song and dance. :giggle: India may have a record of looking the other way when it comes to religious violence but it does not make it acceptable. Irrespective of whether those crimes are against Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists or people of any other religion. For all the good work Modi may have done before and after Godhra, his action or inaction during the riots was unforgivable and someone who has that black mark on their CV should never come to power at the national level. What he did at Godhra was more than a mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sehwag1830 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 India may have a record of looking the other way when it comes to religious violence but it does not make it acceptable. Irrespective of whether those crimes are against Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Buddhists or people of any other religion. For all the good work Modi may have done before and after Godhra, his action or inaction during the riots was unforgivable and someone who has that black mark on their CV should never come to power at the national level. What he did at Godhra was more than a mistake. Should Nehru have been the PM after what he did at kashmir ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surajmal Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Should Nehru have been the PM after what he did at kashmir ? First world countries impeach leaders of state for having affairs while in office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 I wonder why unnees-sau-teerasi didn't post this :hmmm: :giggle: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daryl1985 Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 Should Nehru have been the PM after what he did at kashmir ? I don't feel i have read up enough on Nehru and Kashmir to comment but i have read enough on the Gujurat riots to comment that more could have been done to prevent the communal riots from escalating to the extent that they did. Ultimately, the blame lies with Modi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superstar Posted June 3, 2012 Share Posted June 3, 2012 What will USA do if modi is elected president? Would they give him visas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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