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[Guest dada_rocks]

Sachin tendulkar's mode of dismissal: If pitch is slow and moreover has little uneven bounce u can be rest assured he will get out dragging ball pitched outside off-stump back to the stumps. It's sort of forgone conclusion. Don't know why he is not fixing this for a genius like him it doesn't look good. Romesh Pawar: Now what more this guy could have done to win his place in world-cp squad. Can anyone please let me know in what respect kumble fares better than this guy. To me it sounds like personal relation with dravid played a big role otherwise kumble doesn't deserve to be playing in world cup at the expense of Pawar for sure. One good thing comes out of this though. Sharad Pawar it seems doesn't meddle with selection otherwise Romesh Pawar should have been in. Dhoni: this guy is easily the best ODI batsman from India. he can blast he can play sedate innings and still can have strike rate in 90's. This is the difference between numerous across the line hooickers called beasts and Dhoni. Hats off young man. Dravid: Boy can he slog now, in recent past I have seen him playing inside out lofted drive over cover, upper cut over the slips, arial shots over the head of point. God knows why he waited all these years restricting himself to conventioal style of play. I have some very very nice feeling about him and world cup. Ganguly: Seems to be in good form but certainly the problme of missing the ball while charging spinners, totally missing the ball while trying to sweep. these things we don't usually associate with ganguly and moreover on west indian pitches he will have to face the glut of specialist spinners and even pretender slow-ball bowlers and he better fix this problem if he likes to succeed there.

[kumble_rocks]

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To me it sounds like personal relation with dravid played a big role otherwise kumble doesn't deserve to be playing in world cup at the expense of Pawar for sure. .

Yeah right . This kind of BS is not only sought , but encouraged in the old dump called ICF. Can you please tell me why he wasn't choosen before for the last couple of years. Why Harbhy was sucking in Pakistan last year , but dravid still persisted with him. Why is VVS not in the team then. After all , he is the best friend of Dravid and not kumble. Keep in mind, Kumble was treated rather poorly by team management all these years. Did you complain when a junior like Ganguly was made captain by Dalmiya and co over senior and much deserving kumble after sachin. For personal reasons, Ganguly used to select players like Harby,kaif , Yuvi etc when they were having lean trot. At that time , he was praised for loyalty. Heck , the shameless Sehwag who openly endorsed Ganguly should be thankful to Dravid for being in the team. Yeah Personal reasons, my foot. Even I feel that Powar is a better choice than Kumble, but for God's sake do not accuse Dravid of Nepotism without concrete proof. BTW, your other assessment is spot on including that of Ganguly.

[King Tendulkar]

Re: Random rambling The real victim is gambhir who despite brilliant form in domestic cricket, challenger series and A tours was not given a run in the side

[Guest dada_rocks]

Re: Random rambling Ganguly's buddy for no reason turned out to be some dashing cricketer from all over India ,batsmen from punjab or delhi or UP, bowlers from Karnataka, Baroda Keeper from again Baroda..Can u point out someone who was doing better than these blokes and yet was not in the team. Don't get ur panties in a wad pal just tell me why Kumble is in the team if not on the basis of personal relations with captain. Any reason will do. In what respect he trumps Romesh pawar other than being the senior member of geriatric society, I guess even there Pawar is not that far. I could have bought the argument had Kumble been superiso even in fielding to Pawar but as it turns out he is much worse bowler much worse batsman and much worse fielder. So far all u have got is some unsubstantiated BS that ganguly did this and that so anything goes. Moreover it's world cup u don't take proven and consistent failure on basis of hunch when u have ready-made way betetr replacement waiting in the wings. And yes it's not musical chair that one match bhajji fails and next match u recall kumble while u are on tour BTW. I can understand new guys being tried and given a rope to prove himself well Kumble for sure was not out of team because he was not given enough chances. Simply put he started sucking in ODI and still does. The lack of spin he can generate to start with was enough for him to be a paratha one day bowler but to make mnatters worse whenever he gets hit he even stops achieveing that non-existant spin and starts serving utter tripe in form of pushing the bowl just like a super slow medium pacer and praying to the god it doesn't get hit for six. I hope Kumble proves me wrong but if his ODI history is anything to go by well Ram bharose Rao.

[Guest dada_rocks]

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The real victim is gambhir who despite brilliant form in domestic cricket' date=' challenger series and A tours was not given a run in the side[/quote'] HE hasn't set world on fire in numerous chances he got on the basis of same prodcutive streak in domestic cricket. I guess selectors had a sort fo idea what Gambhri is capable of at his best in international circuit and moreover his replacement Utthapa is nto as dashing in stroke-pplay as him but has even produced better goods than gambhir so I am nto complaining here.

[kumble_rocks]

Re: Random rambling You really need help , dude. When did I say that Kumble should be choosen over Powar. On the contrary , even I feel that Powar should have been choosen over both Kumble and Harby. And ,as ususal you will take statements out of context and refuse to take a bite at the main course. Why is VVS not in the team if Dravid indulges in nepotism.Heck , better case for the inclusion of VVS can be made over kumble and he is the best friend. Why is Sehwag in the team when the board and the coach don't want him. Also , what has Kumble's spinning ability got to do with argument you are putting across. Everybody knows that he is a top spin bolwer who relies on change of pace and bounce. Heck , even Sachin turns more than Kumble. Typical of you to assume that Dravid will prefer Kumble for personal reasons. Just like Dalmiya preferred Ganguly when Kumble should have been the captain. And last I checked , Sehwag who openly endorsed Ganguly was backed by none other than Dravid when the entire team management including the board is against his inclusion. And also, Dravid's buddies for no reason turned out to be some dashing WK from Jharkand , Bowler from Baroda and Kerala, Out of form batsmen from Punjab etc. Don't give me this BS that it was personal reason without any proof. I will let other posters decide if their is any merit to your statement about Dravid's nepotism.

[kumble_rocks]

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The real victim is gambhir who despite brilliant form in domestic cricket' date=' challenger series and A tours was not given a run in the side[/quote'] HE hasn't set world on fire in numerous chances he got on the basis of same prodcutive streak in domestic cricket. I guess selectors had a sort fo idea what Gambhri is capable of at his best in international circuit and moreover his replacement Utthapa is nto as dashing in stroke-pplay as him but has even produced better goods than gambhir so I am nto complaining here.

No , it was for personal reasons that Dravid prefered Uttappa over Gambhir.

[King Tendulkar]

Re: Random rambling Bhaji is one of first names on team sheet IMO. His odi record is superb. Yes he may not run thorough a team, but his economy and control is superb as was shown once again today. If you look at his recent record against Kumble and Powar I am sure bhaji will come out on top especially in the factor of economy rate.

[Lurker]

Re: Random rambling Kumble has not set the world on fire. Yes. But what was Kumble's performance the last time he bowled in West Indies? 23 wickets in 4 tests. Not bad huh? One does feel for Powar. He has perfomed every time he was selected but there is no way 3 spinners would go to WC. Not when Sehwag, Yuvraj, Sachin etc are supposed to be the 5th bowler. Bhajji is the first selection, Kumble performed well last time India toured West Indies. So who leaves that out? xxx

[yoda]

Re: Random rambling if dravid thought powar would help us win the cup better than kumble he would have gone with powar. right or wrong he thought kumble gives us better chance. that's as far as one can stretech their imagination logically. and wonder what personal bias dravid had to prop up a failing sehwag over raina? is dravid from delhi as well? i read that powar was left out because he is another off spinner and we already have one in harby and another in sehwag. powar simply can't bat, so it is an illusion that he is an allrounder.

[Legend]

Re: Random rambling atleast now some southies won't say that players from major cities like Delhi, Mumbai are preffered over some Southy players.. atleast Gambhir is an Example...

[yoda]

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atleast now some southies won't say that players from major cities like Delhi, Mumbai are preffered over some Southy players.. atleast Gambhir is an Example...

fyi, chennai and bangalore are major cities. i donno what you mean by "some southy players" as if they are from some unwanted part of the country.

[kumble_rocks]

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Kumble has not set the world on fire. Yes. But what was Kumble's performance the last time he bowled in West Indies? 23 wickets in 4 tests. Not bad huh? One does feel for Powar. He has perfomed every time he was selected but there is no way 3 spinners would go to WC. Not when Sehwag, Yuvraj, Sachin etc are supposed to be the 5th bowler. Bhajji is the first selection, Kumble performed well last time India toured West Indies. So who leaves that out? xxx

Lurker, Even I feel that Powar should have been chosen over Kumble. That's not the point. If you read DR's post , he accuses Dravid for indulging in nepotism just because he is from Karnataka. This kind of allegation without proof is baseless. I would rather take the reasoning of Dravid whom I consider man of integrity which is 1. Pitches in WI well help Kumble. 2. Certain teams like Pakistan struggle against Kumble and he is choosen specifically to play against those teams. 3. He is a decent record in WI. Going by DR's reasoning , then VVS , best buddy of Dravid should have been in the team. This goes to show that , Nepotism was not the factor in kumble's inclusion.

[kumble_rocks]

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atleast now some southies won't say that players from major cities like Delhi, Mumbai are preffered over some Southy players.. atleast Gambhir is an Example...

For once Kumble get's a lucky break in his long illustrious carreer and SOME northies are jumping and down. See, Even I can make this BIGOTTED statement which is NOT TRUE. I know for a fact that this was never meant to be a North South debate.

[King Tendulkar]

Re: Random rambling Kumble was chosen as he was proven match winner. yes he has not really shown that since coming back to odis. Powar did not take his chance. His batting was MAJOR dissapointment. This left a straight shoot out btwn their bowling skills and they plumped for Kumble.

[jf1gp_1]

Re: Random rambling Imo Bhaji and kumble are selected for a reason over powar. I would never play bhaji against pak but kumble is the first bowler i chose against pak. If you look at there records both bhaji and kumble have bowled well against different sides. Kumbles has bowled better against Pak,Nz even SA same way bhaji's record are better against eng,sl, wi. So is a more tactical choice rather than personal fav.

[Legend]

Re: Random rambling @yoda, by sayin southy i never meant they are unwanted plyrz... i just wanted to say most of the ppl of that region try to create such noise sometimes when players from their region arent selected and some northy plyr is selected over them... @ talkin about kumble, hez one of my fav player and deservable candidate for Indian squad.. dont know why u ppl brought his name in this talk...

[Guest dada_rocks]

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Kumble has not set the world on fire. Yes. But what was Kumble's performance the last time he bowled in West Indies? 23 wickets in 4 tests. Not bad huh? One does feel for Powar. He has perfomed every time he was selected but there is no way 3 spinners would go to WC. Not when Sehwag, Yuvraj, Sachin etc are supposed to be the 5th bowler. Bhajji is the first selection, Kumble performed well last time India toured West Indies. So who leaves that out? xxx

In test Kumble is first choice no question asked but we are talking about ODI here..

[Guest dada_rocks]

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The real victim is gambhir who despite brilliant form in domestic cricket' date=' challenger series and A tours was not given a run in the side[/quote'] HE hasn't set world on fire in numerous chances he got on the basis of same prodcutive streak in domestic cricket. I guess selectors had a sort fo idea what Gambhri is capable of at his best in international circuit and moreover his replacement Utthapa is nto as dashing in stroke-pplay as him but has even produced better goods than gambhir so I am nto complaining here.

No , it was for personal reasons that Dravid prefered Uttappa over Gambhir.

I would take this as u have exhausted ur rational talk on this issue.. :wtg:

[Guest dada_rocks]

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atleast now some southies won't say that players from major cities like Delhi, Mumbai are preffered over some Southy players.. atleast Gambhir is an Example...

For once Kumble get's a lucky break in his long illustrious carreer and SOME northies are jumping and down. See, Even I can make this BIGOTTED statement which is NOT TRUE. I know for a fact that this was never meant to be a North South debate.

Nice first turn the debate in that direction and then pretend I never meant it....... I forgot I should have been rooting for Gambhir's selection :lmao: