VHP leaders being killed state after state; Wait till they snap back

[suraj]

The death toll from Monday's violence in Orissa during a bandh called by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad has gone up to 9. "There are reports that four to five people have been killed in fresh violence. The deaths are from yesterday's violence. There is no fresh violence. We have also clamped a curfew in Kandhamal district to avoid any violence," a senior Orissa government official clarified. Officials are in the process of identifying five of the dead, sources said. The government's statement that the Maoists were behind the murders has also been contested. "Saying Naxals are behind the attack is totally misleading and orchestrated. This is an attack by the agents of Christian missionaries, whose attempts at forcible conversions the Swamiji countered," said a Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh spokesperson. He also blamed the state government for failing to protect Swami Lakshmanananda even after he lodged a lodged a formal complaint. Lakhsmanananda came to Chakapada village in 1966, after which he set up schools and hostels for tribal children in the region "They tried and failed for seven times. The eighth time they have succeeded. A week before he was killed, he had received an anonymous threat that said he would soon be killed. Though he lodged a formal complaint, the officials did not do anything about it," a local functionary said. Local observers also blamed the government for not giving the Swamiji enough protection and also not doing enough to douse the communal tension after December when an attack on Lakshmanananda sparked violence in Kandhamal district. "The administration failed to ensure that the churches and Christian institutions were attacked in return. So, this might be an act of revenge for that, given the fact that Lakshmanananda was actively combating forcible conversions in the region," said an observer. Soon after the attack, the state government and the police laid the blame on Maoists. "They were very quick to do it probably because they wanted to ensure that communal violence does not break out. But eventually they weren't able to do that also," he said. Maoist-watchers are also not convinced that there could be a Naxal angle to the killings. "There is nothing that suggests that Maosits may be involved. Though it is soon to say for sure they are not involved, there have not been many incidents where they have attacked civilians. Even in such a case, they would have killed the two home guards who were said to have been on duty at the time of attack," said a Delhi-based security analyst. "However, whoever executed it had planned it to perfection. It is clear that they have been watching the Swami closely. The assailant also chose dinner time, when two of the guards were not present, on Janmashtmi day, when everyone had their guards down," he said. Indicates complete failiure of govt and law & order in protecting anyone; it is each to their own.

[Guest dada_rocks]

The death toll from Monday's violence in Orissa during a bandh called by the Vishwa Hindu Parishad has gone up to 9. "There are reports that four to five people have been killed in fresh violence. The deaths are from yesterday's violence. There is no fresh violence. We have also clamped a curfew in Kandhamal district to avoid any violence," a senior Orissa government official clarified. Officials are in the process of identifying five of the dead, sources said. The government's statement that the Maoists were behind the murders has also been contested. "Saying Naxals are behind the attack is totally misleading and orchestrated. This is an attack by the agents of Christian missionaries, whose attempts at forcible conversions the Swamiji countered," said a Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh spokesperson. He also blamed the state government for failing to protect Swami Lakshmanananda even after he lodged a lodged a formal complaint. Lakhsmanananda came to Chakapada village in 1966, after which he set up schools and hostels for tribal children in the region "They tried and failed for seven times. The eighth time they have succeeded. A week before he was killed, he had received an anonymous threat that said he would soon be killed. Though he lodged a formal complaint, the officials did not do anything about it," a local functionary said. Local observers also blamed the government for not giving the Swamiji enough protection and also not doing enough to douse the communal tension after December when an attack on Lakshmanananda sparked violence in Kandhamal district. "The administration failed to ensure that the churches and Christian institutions were attacked in return. So, this might be an act of revenge for that, given the fact that Lakshmanananda was actively combating forcible conversions in the region," said an observer. Soon after the attack, the state government and the police laid the blame on Maoists. "They were very quick to do it probably because they wanted to ensure that communal violence does not break out. But eventually they weren't able to do that also," he said. Maoist-watchers are also not convinced that there could be a Naxal angle to the killings. "There is nothing that suggests that Maosits may be involved. Though it is soon to say for sure they are not involved, there have not been many incidents where they have attacked civilians. Even in such a case, they would have killed the two home guards who were said to have been on duty at the time of attack," said a Delhi-based security analyst. "However, whoever executed it had planned it to perfection. It is clear that they have been watching the Swami closely. The assailant also chose dinner time, when two of the guards were not present, on Janmashtmi day, when everyone had their guards down," he said. Indicates complete failiure of govt and law & order in protecting anyone; it is each to their own.

Missionaries will not be blamed even if they are caught red-handed..... I still remember one such empathetic missinaory organization romaing around with relief good in their bus at the eve of Tsunami insisting a well-to-do villagers that they will have to first convert then they will get relief materials.These guys were not your usual penurious dalit so revolted and dragged media attention > Swiftly the bus wdisappeared .. This was a collosus event but it didn;t see the light beyond sixth sevent page.. Idiot box totally ignored it.... Why blame them here are peopel who instead of condemning the killing of a 60+ year old guru indulged in teaching poor girls since past 30-40 years pass on smart alec comment like well VHP is goons hence killing deserves no condemnation.. same people's panties goe in twist when some missionary are hurt

[Guest dada_rocks]

Swami Lakshamananda was the same priest who was attacked iN deceber 2007 which resulted into violence. Incidentally he has been selflessly working for past foirty years but attacks started recently when he took the project of undoing the conversion through Shuddhikaran or ghar-wapasi programme.. So message is clear from church I have right to convert you but you dare not undo the conversion.. Why this attack if you claim you win converts through change of heart then why be so insecure .. Ghar-wapasi doesn;t happen in hush-hush manner it always happens in public program so if u see any inducement like you do in your conversion bid then bring the proof. Like VHP or other hindu porganizations have done by showing how you distribute bicycle at the eve of conversion ........ This battle is not going to be over anytime soon many Lakshmananad are waiting to take his place

[Guest dada_rocks]

http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/72422/orissa-fallout-christian-schools-colleges-shut-across-india.html So all india band organized by christian misinaory schools ( supported on large part by the govt btw) is a sing of solidarity with chirstina of orisa.. now let us go back a fortnight all india band organized in support of Amarnath shrine board .. what was that as per psec media pundits .. well u guessed it, it was a communalisation act on part of BJP... everyone was parrotting the flame of protest should not go beyond state then but somehow it's kosher now..

[THX_1138]

Same ***** is on as was on the eve of Godhara train burning ..... Communazis cheered then till post-godhara happened then they provided their useless condemnation of both incidents.. Again here after 3 days communazis have woken up and token condemnation of attack on VHP girl's ashram and are frothing over the subsequent event .. I think we have characters like this even in this thread

You know that the two terms are not synonymous or even remotely identical dont you? You do know that the it was the communist russians who actually broke the back of the nazi fascists in the second world war right? And you do know that the criticism of any act of violence is important... dont you?

[CC1981]

You know that the two terms are not synonymous or even remotely identical dont you? You do know that the it was the communist russians who actually broke the back of the nazi fascists in the second world war right? And you do know that the criticism of any act of violence is important... dont you?

You are about a year late in reminding dada that the term 'communazi' makes no sense whatsoever and usage of such idiotic and contradictory terms actually lowers the quality of his commentary if anything. Unfortunately, like most of our hinduvtas here, dada doesnt give a whit about accuracy or integrity in his spiel.

[Guest dada_rocks]

Blaming Christians for the killing of Laxmanananda, he said naxalites are not behind the killing as policemen were present when bullets were sprayed on him. "Had they been Maoists, the government security forces would not have been spared," he said. "Swamiji had earlier expressed apprehensions that he might be killed by the Christian community," Togadia claimed.

[Guest dada_rocks]

You know that the two terms are not synonymous or even remotely identical dont you? You do know that the it was the communist russians who actually broke the back of the nazi fascists in the second world war right? And you do know that the criticism of any act of violence is important... dont you?

Communazis means communist who act like nazisviz a viz intolerance of opposing views.. Why u undergrads have such a dubious imagination that u can't see things beyond pedantic translation.. CC the original clown too can't get this simple coinage

[Desi Cartman]

I dont care about conversions but I noticed something funny (or maybe sad), the NRI section of Congress has publicly condemned these riots but I failed to see any statement issued by them regarding Amarnath/Kahmir/jammu violence , wonder why :hmmmm2:

[Guest dada_rocks]

I dont care about conversions but I noticed something funny (or maybe sad)' date=' the NRI section of Congress has publicly condemned these riots but I failed to see any statement issued by them regarding Amarnath/Kahmir/jammu violence , wonder why :hmmmm2:[/quote'] I know why :hysterical: BTW these sampes who swear by gadhi even he had nothind but scorn for these proselytizers....