hassan_113 Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I woke up this morning and was shocked to read the scorecard. I can safely say that with Dhoni there, it wouldn't have been THIS bad, but there are some things that deserve to be highlighted:- - India's pace bowlers- Khan and Sharma are quality no doubt. But Patel (okay he performed well in 1st test on helpful pitch) has long been a source of confusion and debate for India's fans. He has dropped considerable pace and on flat tracks lacks the nouse to out-do batters in tests. I haven't seen the bowling, but I believe Munaf is often lazy and does not deserve a place in the team. At least Sreesanth gives it his all and I believe he'd flourish under this current India team. - Where is the reverse swing? I doubt that NZ would get 600+ if Khan et al used this to good effect. Surely if the pitch is flat then they could have reversed it to some effect I believe that India are easily top 3 material, but to be no.1 it must use its initiative in tough situations and stop feeling sorry for itself. Okay they dropped loads of catches. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ Overall, I'm generally perplexed by this performance :-( Link to comment
ViruRulez Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I woke up this morning and was shocked to read the scorecard. I can safely say that with Dhoni there, it wouldn't have been THIS bad, but there are some things that deserve to be highlighted:- - India's pace bowlers- Khan and Sharma are quality no doubt. But Patel (okay he performed well in 1st test on helpful pitch) has long been a source of confusion and debate for India's fans. He has dropped considerable pace and on flat tracks lacks the nouse to out-do batters in tests. I haven't seen the bowling, but I believe Munaf is often lazy and does not deserve a place in the team. At least Sreesanth gives it his all and I believe he'd flourish under this current India team. - Where is the reverse swing? I doubt that NZ would get 600+ if Khan et al used this to good effect. Surely if the pitch is flat then they could have reversed it to some effect I believe that India are easily top 3 material, but to be no.1 it must use its initiative in tough situations and stop feeling sorry for itself. Okay they dropped loads of catches. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ Overall, I'm generally perplexed by this performance :-( Dont worry Atul Sharma is coming up as the third pacer Yaar hype kuch jyada hi ho raha hai but hope he comes up to the expectations :--D Link to comment
hassan_113 Posted March 27, 2009 Author Share Posted March 27, 2009 Don't pin your hopes on one guy lol. Remember Mohammad Sami and now Morne Morkel- pace isn't everything my friend. I believe the Cochin superstar should play the next test. Can't do worse than Munaf. Link to comment
DomainK Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I woke up this morning and was shocked to read the scorecard. I can safely say that with Dhoni there, it wouldn't have been THIS bad, but there are some things that deserve to be highlighted:- - India's pace bowlers- Khan and Sharma are quality no doubt. But Patel (okay he performed well in 1st test on helpful pitch) has long been a source of confusion and debate for India's fans. He has dropped considerable pace and on flat tracks lacks the nouse to out-do batters in tests. I haven't seen the bowling, but I believe Munaf is often lazy and does not deserve a place in the team. At least Sreesanth gives it his all and I believe he'd flourish under this current India team. - Where is the reverse swing? I doubt that NZ would get 600+ if Khan et al used this to good effect. Surely if the pitch is flat then they could have reversed it to some effect I believe that India are easily top 3 material, but to be no.1 it must use its initiative in tough situations and stop feeling sorry for itself. Okay they dropped loads of catches. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ Overall, I'm generally perplexed by this performance :-( Reverse swing needs certain conditions. It just does not always happen. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ Easier said than done. You know it as well as we do. Link to comment
Bumblebee Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Don't pin your hopes on one guy lol. Remember Mohammad Sami and now Morne Morkel- pace isn't everything my friend. I believe the Cochin superstar should play the next test. Can't do worse than Munaf. well if bowler fails in one series ..he's a sami! what a logic!! Morne is in a different league...... Link to comment
Bumblebee Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 although i agree with dropping munaf part...he looks like he is doing some ahsan playing for india!! havnt ever seen such a demotivated and negative body language crickete.. Link to comment
diegovegaz Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 the opinion that matters, is that india have feilded themselves out of the match it is the feilding and catching that has cost us the match Link to comment
Show_stopper Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 Please do share your personal opinion on Pakistani trundlers as well while you're at it..we'd love to hear more from you. Link to comment
ritwik Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 - Where is the reverse swing? I doubt that NZ would get 600+ if Khan et al used this to good effect. Surely if the pitch is flat then they could have reversed it to some effect -( The kookaburra balls used in NZ don't reverse as quickly or as easily as the SG balls used in India. Link to comment
Holysmoke Posted March 27, 2009 Share Posted March 27, 2009 I woke up this morning and was shocked to read the scorecard. I can safely say that with Dhoni there, it wouldn't have been THIS bad, but there are some things that deserve to be highlighted:- -agreed about the dhoni part - India's pace bowlers- Khan and Sharma are quality no doubt. But Patel (okay he performed well in 1st test on helpful pitch) has long been a source of confusion and debate for India's fans. He has dropped considerable pace and on flat tracks lacks the nouse to out-do batters in tests. I haven't seen the bowling, but I believe Munaf is often lazy and does not deserve a place in the team. At least Sreesanth gives it his all and I believe he'd flourish under this current India team. Sreesanth has had a stress fracture.. he wont even be playing the IPL Our other pacers, RP Singh is coming from an injury, and Munaf was selected ahead of VRV, Gony, Kulkarni. Munna has been giving it his all this series, and thats a good sign. - Where is the reverse swing? I doubt that NZ would get 600+ if Khan et al used this to good effect. Surely if the pitch is flat then they could have reversed it to some effect The pitch and the conditions are not conducive to reverse swing.. you cant reverse swing anywhere mate I believe that India are easily top 3 material, but to be no.1 it must use its initiative in tough situations and stop feeling sorry for itself. Okay they dropped loads of catches. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ Overall, I'm generally perplexed by this performance :-( Sh!t happens Link to comment
hassan_113 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 Pakistan do have some trundlers, but India's aren't all exactly pacy. Anyways- I don't think any of you arte suitably qualified to lecture me about reverse swing :-) Link to comment
cochise Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 the opinion that matters, is that india have feilded themselves out of the match it is the feilding and catching that has cost us the match Bingo! Link to comment
cochise Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 I believe that India are easily top 3 material, but to be no.1 it must use its initiative in tough situations and stop feeling sorry for itself. Okay they dropped loads of catches. BUT if you bowl at the stumps with pace and swing, then there is a greater chance of success/ They lacked intensity both in the field and while batting. An element of complacency has crept into their game in this test that was not there in the first and is definitely not there when they play teams like Oz or SA...it's almost like they are disrespecting the opposition....this is what happens when you don't give your opposition their due...you land up underestimating them and soon you find yourself in deep shyte. Today has been a wake up call if they needed one. Let's see if they respond tomorrow...I am betting they will. Link to comment
DomainK Posted March 28, 2009 Share Posted March 28, 2009 Pakistan do have some trundlers, but India's aren't all exactly pacy. Anyways- I don't think any of you arte suitably qualified to lecture me about reverse swing :-) If you think you are superior and you dont want to listen to anyone, please dont bother to express yourself either. Link to comment
hassan_113 Posted March 28, 2009 Author Share Posted March 28, 2009 Ok that was a bit arrogant from me- was aimed at those who ripped my opinion, not you. Sorry. Link to comment
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