Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Sometimes I wonder' date=' is this really our true customs, culture? Were Indians always this conservative to begin with? I feel that there might have been a mighty influence of Islam on the Indian culture. An inferiority complex led the common man to have a conservative approach toward sex. Ancient India was more liberal towards sex than Modern India will ever be.[/quote'] That's a lot of speculation. I know that. I never stated it as a fact. But you have to try to make sense of it. :dontknow: I don't see much sense in that' date=' TBH. Besides, Islam is not as bad a religion as you are projecting it that everything that comes in contact with it gets corrupt.[/quote'] DomainK I have no negative sentiments about Islam.I do however share nikred's opinion that the conservative aspect to life came with Islam. We were obssessed with certain things like cleanliness - if you read Alberuni you get a good snapshot of 12th century India. The facts support the hypothesis that we were more liberal towards sex. Nothing more or less. I don't think Nikred was saying anything negative about Islam. He just pointed out that it is an entorely different culture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 http://www.infinityfoundation.com/mandala/h_es/h_es_kumar-v_alber.htm A snapshhot of Alberuni's Indica. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 i am not sure which portion of Islam are u talking abt. there is no conservative approach to sex while Islam is concerned . Islam discusses sex in great details' date=' but yes there are certain prohibition which has to be dealt with on case to case basis.[/quote'] Yes that maybe correct however there are a great deal of restrictions which did not exist in hindu Indica. I am not even sure the concept of virginity was important in ancient India however I do know that it was a muslim custom (in some places) to show the bed cover of the wedding night covered in blood to symbolise the purity of the bride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhr123 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 http://www.infinityfoundation.com/mandala/h_es/h_es_kumar-v_alber.htm A snapshhot of Alberuni's Indica. informative... will read it later.. sanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 DomainK I have no negative sentiments about Islam.I do however share nikred's opinion that the conservative aspect to life came with Islam. We were obssessed with certain things like cleanliness - if you read Alberuni you get a good snapshot of 12th century India. The facts support the hypothesis that we were more liberal towards sex. Nothing more or less. I don't think Nikred was saying anything negative about Islam. He just pointed out that it is an entorely different culture. Exactly. :agree: Thanks there mate. :hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhr123 Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Yes that maybe correct however there are a great deal of restrictions which did not exist in hindu Indica. I am not even sure the concept of virginity was important in ancient India however I do know that it was a muslim custom (in some places) to show the bed cover of the wedding night covered in blood to symbolise the purity of the bride. i am not sure abt that and it is also not scientifically correct that even though a girl is virgin the blood will come.. i have seen in few movies/books that its Sub continent tradition that they would put a white bed sheet to see the blood (its not an Islamic tradition which i can assure). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Exactly. :agree: Thanks there mate. :hatsoff: I still want to absolutely roger you mate. I am coming for you and flamy boy.:--D:--D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 i am not sure abt that and it is also not scientifically correct that even though a girl is virgin the blood will come.. i have seen in few movies/books that its Sub continent tradition that they would put a white bed sheet to see the blood (its not an Islamic tradition which i can assure). Like I said, I have heard about this in a few cases. Whether sub continental or not is another story. Scientifically of course it is crap. Try Saudi arabian before you tell me for sure it is not Islamic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Sometimes I wonder' date=' is this really our true customs, culture? Were Indians always this conservative to begin with? I feel that there might have been a mighty influence of Islam on the Indian culture. An inferiority complex led the common man to have a conservative approach toward sex. Ancient India was more liberal towards sex than Modern India will ever be.[/quote'] There is a difference between sex and naturism. I am a person who believes that both porn and prostitution should be legalized in India as it would help in reducing these sex related crimes in India. I believe that India should have an openness of sex and venting out of sexual desires should be allowed in a legal manner. The only point I am making about not bringing is naturism. I mean full nudity in public like in streets, beaches etc. as you see in foreign countries. I would not mind a girl walking in the street with a bikini but surely not exposing her her boobs and pussy. That is what I am saying. It is not about only Indian culture or any culture but if you promote naturism then it would lead to problems where small kids would be diverted from their education. There should be openness but not sex or nudity in public and that is what I am saying. Legalize porn, legalize prostitution, bring sexual openness in society and allow everything else but the only thing I want is that public nudity should not be allowed as that would affect the minds of young kids... I agree that they would be hormones in them as they pass through adolescence but that is their time to study and concentrate on their career.. India is known for its education and we cannot let this be hampered and that is what I want :hatsoff: Rest it is high time for bringing in more sexual openness in the Indian society IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I still want to absolutely roger you mate. I am coming for you and flamy boy.:--D:--D I am a modern conservative Indian. Sorry, I am not into that kind of stuff. :finger: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 There is a difference between sex and naturism. I am a person who believes that both porn and prostitution should be legalized in India as it would help in reducing these sex related crimes in India. I believe that India should have an openness of sex and venting out of sexual desires should be allowed in a legal manner. The only point I am making about not bringing is naturism. I mean full nudity in public like in streets, beaches etc. as you see in foreign countries. I would not mind a girl walking in the street with a bikini but surely not exposing her her boobs and pussy. That is what I am saying. It is not about only Indian culture or any culture but if you promote naturism then it would lead to problems where small kids would be diverted from their education. There should be openness but not sex or nudity in public and that is what I am saying. Legalize porn, legalize prostitution, bring sexual openness in society and allow everything else but the only thing I want is that public nudity should not be allowed as that would affect the minds of young kids... I agree that they would be hormones in them as they pass through adolescence but that is their time to study and concentrate on their career.. India is known for its education and we cannot let this be hampered and that is what I want :hatsoff: Rest it is high time for bringing in more sexual openness in the Indian society IMO VR, public nudity is an offence in most countries in the west. The only example of public nudity I know in Europe are some specific beaches (for example in Italy - it is women only) and the swiss alps (good luck with that). Everywhere else it is deemed public indecency and can carry a penalty ranging from fine to prison time. So don't worry, it will never happen in India. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I am a modern conservative Indian. Sorry' date=' I am not into that kind of stuff. :finger:[/quote'] You know you iz like that. What's the problem I don't see no ring on your fing..:icflove::icflove: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 You know you iz like that. What's the problem I don't see no ring on your fing..:icflove::icflove: I don't do minors. Shoo....go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I don't do minors. Shoo....go away. I am gonna do all the "doing", so no worries boy.:icflove::icflove: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 VR' date=' public nudity is an offence in most countries in the west. The only example of public nudity I know in Europe are some specific beaches (for example in Italy - it is women only) and the swiss alps (good luck with that). Everywhere else it is deemed public indecency and can carry a penalty ranging from fine to prison time. So don't worry, it will never happen in India.[/quote'] I did not know it was an offence in most countries of the west :dontknow: then how is it that there is nude cycle rallies, nude biker rallies, nude marches and in many beaches people go on completely nude... and there are maybe millions of naturists in the west and they roam around freely in beaches and public places too .. there are surely lot of public nudity in most western countries .. how are all these possible if public nudity is forbidden in the west :hmmm: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 I did not know it was an offence in most countries of the west :dontknow: then how is it that there is nude cycle rallies' date=' nude biker rallies, nude marches and in many beaches people go on completely nude... and there are maybe millions of naturists in the west and they roam around freely in beaches and public places too .. there are surely lot of public nudity in most western countries .. how are all these possible if public nudity is forbidden in the west :hmmm:[/quote'] Because they show you specific events and places on TV. There are no "millions" of nudists in the west.:haha: Its just a snapshot of some specific things. In most places it is illegal, just google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViruRulez Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Because they show you specific events and places on TV. There are no "millions" of nudists in the west.:haha: Its just a snapshot of some specific things. In most places it is illegal, just google it. :dontknow: Nobody shows it and that too on Indian television :woot: But you can just search flickr or many other places for an idea about what I am saying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikred Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 :dontknow: Nobody shows it and that too on Indian television :woot: But you can just search flickr or many other places for an idea about what I am saying There are few places where the nudists can move about freely. But such places are frequented by like minded people only. I know at least two nudists beaches in NJ (never been there, nor plan to) but I am yet to see any nudists roaming about in a public place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Sometimes I wonder' date=' is this really our true customs, culture? Were Indians always this conservative to begin with? I feel that there might have been a mighty influence of Islam on the Indian culture. An inferiority complex led the common man to have a conservative approach toward sex. Ancient India was more liberal towards sex than Modern India will ever be.[/quote'] Well said..:icflove: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punjabi_khota Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Its not like people are suppressing their sexual desires. Everyone is getting laid' date=' its just that its taboo. Wtf ? Everyone is getting laid in India ? Dude, you have no idea. :giggle: 95% of the graduating batch of every IIT (at age of 21-22) is virgin. :hysterical::hysterical: I am pretty sure the numbers are not too different for other (decent) colleges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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