DomainK Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desi Cartman Posted December 15, 2009 Share Posted December 15, 2009 Ohh alright, forgive me, I was only trying to show India before partition, didn't focus on Myanmar and other countries. Secondly, I mean that don't try to ridicule me by showing East Pakistan and then Bangladesh. The mere fact that I'm a Pakistani is a slap on the face to you, that was the point I was trying to make. Anyways sir, I am not one to continue on and on fighting online, takes too much negative energy, I started off in this thread giving my opinion on it, and I got some unwarranted retorts but nevermind that, I'm finished. Congratulations on being a Paki .. please dont be mistaken that Indians dislike the creation of pakistan .. Trust me 99% of the Indians are thankful for it :icflove: I brought Bangladesh into discussion to show what REAL azadi means ie Bangladesh not POK/Azad kashmir etc. Anyway main point was do pakistanis hate the terrorists who killed Indians in j/K or is it selective hate .. feel free to ignore this post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 Do you also hate terrorists who killed innocents in j & K ? Do u hate your own govt for the Kargil war ? Its intresting he wont give a straight answer to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 ^^ Woah woah no no no, please don't mistake my silence for something else, I was sidetracked by the other posts. To answer Desi Cartman's question, yes as I had mentioned previously, I hate any innocent loss of life so yes I do hate the terrorists who killed innocent Indians, even if they were sent by our government. By no means am I trying to validate what they did BUT in a time of war, arn't such types of guerilla warfare used, against the enemy army ofcourse, not against civilians. I'm sure India has done the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macj Posted December 16, 2009 Share Posted December 16, 2009 The infamous tack "I never condone attacks on civilians and loss of life of innocents BUT......" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 No tack, just giving my thoughts buddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I think you all need to give it a rest. This started with porn so let us stick to the topic. Porn :woot: Btw how many of you genuinely believe that terror attacks in India are going to stop just by harrassing poor Pioneer here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Haha thanks Gunner, you've been my saviour over here, but I don't mind good debates. I can learn things too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texy Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 The point is the blatant hypocrisy we see here... Talibans justify their barbarism as fight for muslims while forcing people to live in stone age and barring female education. Talibans force women to cover from head to toe to protect their modesty yet kidnap young virgin girls for their pleasure. Similar pattern followed by Kashmiri jihadis....kidnapping local women for pleasure and then later dumping their body into the river also projecting themselves as the liberators from the evil Indian tyranny yet despite all these hypocrisy..they continue receiving local civilian support for Pioneer: Let's not forget '71.... the biggest South-Asian silent genocide of this century committed by Pak army under similar guise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 The point is the blatant hypocrisy we see here... Talibans justify their barbarism as fight for muslims while forcing people to live in stone age and barring female education. Talibans force women to cover from head to toe to protect their modesty yet kidnap young virgin girls for their pleasure. Similar pattern followed by Kashmiri jihadis....kidnapping local women for pleasure and then later dumping their body into the river also projecting themselves as the liberators from the evil Indian tyranny yet despite all these hypocrisy..they continue receiving local civilian support for Pioneer: Let's not forget '71.... the biggest South-Asian silent genocide of this century committed by Pak army under similar guise This local civilian support is mostly based upon culture I would say. I mean the tribes living in those areas are so close-knitted, its like seeing your neighbour who you have known your whole life , pick up arms and fight, they would get some support from their tribes. However this support is waning, the locals have begun to realise that this war is not doing any good for their lives. And yes, I never said anything about 71'...it was disgusting I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ^^ Woah woah no no no, please don't mistake my silence for something else, I was sidetracked by the other posts. To answer Desi Cartman's question, yes as I had mentioned previously, I hate any innocent loss of life so yes I do hate the terrorists who killed innocent Indians, even if they were sent by our government. By no means am I trying to validate what they did BUT in a time of war, arn't such types of guerilla warfare used, against the enemy army ofcourse, not against civilians. I'm sure India has done the same. There we have it. The supprt of the jihadis is clear and loud. And this is from a possible moderate who are few and far between in pak land. This is why I always say you reap what you sow! Kashmir is not a war zone. It also was not having a ny terrorism before 80s, strange that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ^^ Oh wow...I was trying to avoid exactly what you have just said, couldn't you tell by my post. I DO NOT support the "jihadis", I was saying it from a different point of view. Can you people just open your eyes and ears for once instead of seeing a Pakistani and already planning out an essay of what to dish out on him/her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 In b4 thread lock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macj Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Ironically Pak occupied Kashmir is one of the safest places in Pakistan, relatively speaking of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macj Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 I think you all need to give it a rest. This started with porn so let us stick to the topic. Porn :woot: Btw how many of you genuinely believe that terror attacks in India are going to stop just by harrassing poor Pioneer here? We debate him because what hes taught since childhood in Paki schools is Hindu/India this Hindu/India that, just setting the record straight. Pioneer might be an excellent person nonetheless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gunner Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 We debate him because what hes taught since childhood in Paki schools is Hindu/India this Hindu/India that' date=' just setting the record straight. Pioneer might be an excellent person nonetheless.[/quote'] He didn't study in Paki schools, he doesn't or hasn't ever lived in Pakistan. Does it solve your problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macj Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 He didn't study in Paki schools' date=' he doesn't or hasn't ever lived in Pakistan. Does it solve your problem?[/quote'] Its surprising then , since hes got so many of his 'facts' horribly wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pioneer Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ^^ What are the "so many facts that I have got horribly wrong", I was only giving my opinions and answering your questions on a personal level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Tendulkar Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 ^^ Oh wow...I was trying to avoid exactly what you have just said, couldn't you tell by my post. I DO NOT support the "jihadis", I was saying it from a different point of view. Can you people just open your eyes and ears for once instead of seeing a Pakistani and already planning out an essay of what to dish out on him/her. Questions for you pioneer as you are the pak brave enough to actually take part in a debate:--D Do you agree with what you have termed "guerilla war" tactics in Kashmir? Do you see Kashmir as a war? Why were there no guerilla war tactics pre 1980s? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graphic23 Posted December 17, 2009 Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thats enough guys. Topic is going no where. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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