Sachin's centuries and India's defeats.

[vaibhav_delhi]

^^ I never start, its always one of you guys posting MS\CAT stuff in each n every thread which is also not on.

[akshayxyz]

bhai tujhe gang-bang word use karne mai koi problem nahi hai par maine bj use kiya to senti ho gaya:dontknow: I know 99.36 doesnt have any relevance, that was just to tease you.... @Rajiv: I hope you know the situation, I am getting such replies by atleast 3 people(S=G,ganesh,akshay) on every thread where I post on this forum: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=1423369&postcount=81 cant report every post. have already asked them not to overdo such stuff.

TBH. I did not find it offensive, and I did not even report it. It was like some girl saying - sal-ley.kut-tey.kami-ney. I was just amused at - how relevant it was to the Sachin comment you quoted from my post. And how it took you days to respond to 'gaNgbang' post.

[Sachin=GOD]

^^ I never start' date=' its always one of you guys posting MSCAT stuff in each n every thread which is also not on.[/quote'] If you had stopped at this thread then Cat/MS may not have been posted so many times in so many threads but again and again you come up with such gems (such as Dhoni's 6 years greater than 10 yrs of Goddy or team building not important in the Dhoni vs Ganguly thread or if Dhoni had been captain from 1995/6 then Indian cricket might have changed etc etc) that people just have to quote these things. Your posts are no longer funny, they are devoid of logic/sense. If it hurts you so badly, I'll never quote CAT/MS again :hatsoff:

[vaibhav_delhi]

If it hurts you so badly, I'll never quote CAT/MS again :hatsoff:

you guys know that you've used it way too much to deserve those replies... I do not feel offended, so keep mentioning it.

[Sachin=GOD]

you guys know that you've used it way too much to deserve those replies... I do not feel offended, so keep mentioning it.

and don't you think that you also have left no stone unturned in trying to prove one man's uselessness to the team (100s resulting in losses) even when you do not have any basis for your claims.

[akshayxyz]

you guys know that you've used it way too much to deserve those replies... I do not feel offended, so keep mentioning it.

There you are again contradicting yourself. The first statement does not go at all with the second!!! You are not offended and yet you keep coming up with words like - 'kid'/'vagina'/'idiot'/..and now this latest fantasy of yours.

[akshayxyz]

Also be honest with you - is it first time you found more than one person taking a dig at you? You do not have to tell us.

[vaibhav_delhi]

There you are again contradicting yourself. The first statement does not go at all with the second!!! You are not offended and yet you keep coming up with words like - 'kid'/'vagina'/'idiot'/..and now this latest fantasy of yours.

I do not get offended by any of online name calling and you also shouldn't. :)

[vaibhav_delhi]

I was just amused at - how relevant it was to the Sachin comment you quoted from my post. And how it took you days to respond to 'gaNgbang' post.

well, obviously the idea came from the poll tht you had started, poll ka jawab poll :D

[Sachin=GOD]

:om:

[akshayxyz]

I do not get offended by any of online name calling and you also shouldn't. :)

I never said I got offended - I am just saying your use of these terms shows that you get offended by the mention of ur cat/msft scores.. and yet you say you are fine with further mentions of them? Also - name-calling or abusive language shows frustration and lack of wit/humour.

[akshayxyz]

well' date=' obviously the idea came from the poll tht you had started, poll ka jawab poll :D[/quote'] And that was your best attempt!!! :wall: Your humor sux even more than your logic.

[Rajiv]

Can we leave the high school fight, no clue about MS, Cat , Mouse etc, as long as it mature teasing which doesn't go deepy dry with BJ, downright abuse, pulling up relatives etc

[vaibhav_delhi]

I never said I got offended - I am just saying your use of these terms shows that you get offended by the mention of ur cat/msft scores.. and yet you say you are fine with further mentions of them? Also - name-calling or abusive language shows frustration and lack of wit/humour.

sure , but your wit\humor in my case is also restricted to CAT\MS stuff only. :) I still say I am not offended n replied as I thought I should, however you are free to assume whatever you like.

[vaibhav_delhi]

And that was your best attempt!!! :wall: Your humor sux even more than your logic.

tbh, I thought it was one of my funniest posts. Too bad tht people have to miss out...

[akshayxyz]

^^ Thanks for another gem from your treasury. :hysterical:

[Sachin=GOD]

tbh' date=' I thought it was one of my funniest posts. Too bad tht people have to miss out...[/quote'] that was supposed to be funny :facepalm::facepalm:

[Sachin=GOD]

Here's an article that may interest Vaibhav: The Worst Sachin Arguments

Remembering the most foolish things ever said about Tendulkar. Many men nurse a hatred for Sachin. It could be the complicated nature of male love, which has a bit of malice in it. The male analysis of Sachin Tendulkar is a two-decade long confession of Indian men. When they speak of him, usually through pilfered opinions, they reveal fragments of their own fears and private grouses. So when a guy says that Rahul Dravid is a more useful Test player than Sachin, he means to say, ‘I am an ordinary person and I want the ordinary to triumph over the flamboyant, I want hard work to be accorded the same respect as unattainable genius, otherwise what is the whole point of my existence.’ When he says Laxman is more beautiful to watch than Sachin, he is saying, ‘I want you to believe that I am classy, an opera among rock concerts.’ And when he says that Ganguly was a better one-day opener than Sachin, he is saying, ‘I am a Bengali.’ As Tendulkar now absurdly escalates his game in what should have been his commentary years, as he stands alone as the rightful owner of One-Day’s most prized batting record, as all his old rivals have fallen whispering in their final moments that this man is the best of their times or even the best ever, it is easy to forget the many moronic things that were said about him. There is a huge quantity of third-rate literature, now deservedly serving as cones for peanuts, that once berated him in the masquerade of cricket analysis. Views that were, and still are, reproduced as the opinions of millions. Till recently, the most stupid Indian arguments were usually about Sachin. How many times have you heard someone say, ‘he does not win matches’. Increasingly, people who do not have mental problems are abandoning this line of thought, even refusing to admit that they ever held such an opinion. But not very long ago, it was a popular view. Also, his centuries, apparently, did not result in Indian victories. Considering that he did not waste balls when he was in the middle, could it be that there were other reasons for our defeat apart from his centuries? Also, it is alleged, he never lasted till the end. As if it was his wish to go have a shower before the match ended. Could it be that the mathematical probability of an opener lasting till the end is very small? In the past two decades, several batsmen have been regarded as Tendulkar’s equals. In columns, essays and drunken conversations, some batsmen were even considered better than him if the game were split into narrow genres. At some point or the other players like Inzamam, Ponting, Lara, Bevan, Sehwag, the brothers Mark and Steve (Waugh) have been placed by his side to see if his light dimmed. Sachin is like the digit in a stopwatch that remains unchanged even as the numbers in the units place go through a furious shuffle. But in the end, the contenders have diminished or vanished. Except Lara, who is the only batsman whose right it is to deny Tendulkar the honour of being considered the greatest of his time (though Lara himself has no doubts in this matter). There were periods in Lara’s astonishing career when Indian men gleefully pointed at him and said, ‘this guy is better than Sachin’. The glee is the whole story. Many men, for different reasons, nurse a hatred for Sachin. It could be the complicated nature of male love, which has a bit of malice in it. Or it could be that Sachin reminds some men of their own worthlessness. Or it could be that people with low self-esteem, of whom there are many, rate everything that belongs to them, like Tendulkar, as inferior to what is foreign. It is not surprising that the way Indian men talk about Sachin is exactly the way Caribbean men discuss Lara. “Lara has done nothing for us, nothing,†a man from Trinidad told me about three years ago. “Great batsman but a selfish fellow.†Haven’t we heard that many times in India—about Tendulkar? The same gloomy force that makes Indian men rate Lara higher, inspires Caribbean men to rate Tendulkar higher than Lara. A few years ago, when cricket fans in Guyana were asked to decide who was better, 85 per cent voted for Tendulkar. As we can see, the male analysis of Tendulkar and Lara says little about the batsmen but a lot about men in general. After Fiat gifted him a Ferrari and he applied for a duty waiver of Rs 1.6 crore on it, there was a huge uproar. That was the first time he was slammed in the media. ‘How can he be so greedy’ was the cry of Indian men, all of whom spend a lot of effort evading taxes themselves. Rs 1.6 crore is a considerable sum even for Tendulkar. What was so morally bereft in trying to save that money? Are we morally compromised when we try to save a few thousand every year in tax exemption? But the worst argument against Tendulkar will always be the myth that he was a bad captain. The truth is: his presence in the dressing room is such that as long as he plays he will be the only captain, whether he is called that or not. All men who tried to defeat his presence hurt themselves. Ganguly was a tortured soul. When he arrived at an airport or at a press conference, if there was Tendulkar, Ganguly was never granted the dignity of being captain. It was Tendulkar people wanted to see, hear. Dhoni’s great fortune is that his mind is clear, he knows his place—Captain and No. 2. Tendulkar is a victim of not just mediocre analysis but also meaningless compliments. He is often described through a sentence that appears to be a unique Indian expression. No other nation is as fond of this line: ‘What strikes you about him is his humility’. It is a compliment usually given to a celebrity with good manners, who has made a journalist feel comfortable, who has offered him a glass of water to drink. How many times have we seen Tendulkar being described as humble, and readily accepted that view. But, are we confusing his endearing decency for humility? And his self-centered caution that ensures he does not always speak his mind, are we misinterpreting that disappointing aspect of his personality for humility? He might be humble, as somehow required by all his devotees, but my point is we don’t know. Then there is the other annoying epithet—Little Master. You think he likes being called Little?

taken from here: http://www.indiancricketfans.com/showpost.php?p=1008931&postcount=67

[akshayxyz]

Excellent article - Best (almost) that could have been written w/o using "monkey_with_a_calculator_stats". Two points from me: 1) Ferrari duty waive off. I understand that 'duty on a prize' was sort of extra burden on him. But he (his manager) could have very well managed w/o asking for waiver. esp when so many of us working class have to pay off big chunk of their earnings as taxes w/o even saying a word. 2)Captaincy

Tendulkar's two tenures as captain of the Indian cricket team were not very successful. When Tendulkar took over as captain in 1996, it was with huge hopes and expectations. However, by 1997 the team was performing poorly. Azharuddin was credited with saying "Nahin jeetega! Chote ki naseeb main jeet nahin hai!",[61] which translates into: "He won't win! It's not in the small one's destiny!".[62] Tendulkar, succeeding Azharuddin as captain for his second term, then led India on a tour of Australia, where the visitors were comprehensively beaten 3–0 by the newly crowned world champions.[63] Tendulkar, however, won the player of the tournament award as well as player of the match in one of the games. After another Test series defeat, this time by a 0–2 margin at home against South Africa, Tendulkar resigned, and Sourav Ganguly took over as captain in 2000.

[akshayxyz]

V_D should be proud of this finding. SRT vs DGB in lost test matches. However great these two are - both of them failed to perform under pressure :P And Sachin's 100s bring more bad luck to his team than Don's 100s to his - as in the lost matches Don scores 100s in 16.67% times, while SRT scores 100s 23.9% times. Even Don, so many decades back, did not affect his team's winning chances as much as Sachin does today.