Rohan495 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 i know its illegal in America. but you know people do it. Even in Europe its legal and in Canada
Rohan495 Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 I would wanna go to Amsterdam i heard marijuana is served like hookah.
THX_1138 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 I would wanna go to Amsterdam i heard marijuana is served like hookah. actually its a bit different. there are these "cafes" that serve different varieties of pot in readily smokable or hookahs etc. its rather civil, you go in, select your poison and then take a seat somewhere and enjoy. the atmosphere is very relaxed, very rustic... in a number of such cafes you will find that indian mysticism is a common theme... from music to the decoration. as for here, well i dont do pot, but the one time that i did try it, it was supplied by a friend and supposedly there were white fibers in it, and indication that i was of supreme quality.
Rohan495 Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 actually its a bit different. there are these "cafes" that serve different varieties of pot in readily smokable or hookahs etc. its rather civil, you go in, select your poison and then take a seat somewhere and enjoy. the atmosphere is very relaxed, very rustic... in a number of such cafes you will find that indian mysticism is a common theme... from music to the decoration. as for here, well i dont do pot, but the one time that i did try it, it was supplied by a friend and supposedly there were white fibers in it, and indication that i was of supreme quality. yea but i dont know if you know but Marijuana in california is the best in the world. here we have something called organic kush which is homegrown, its the cleanest high you will ever have. you can do homework study and even play sports when your on it. its amazing.
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Dude, to this day, the best place, hands down for marijuana, is India. Sure, you wont get the 'hydroponics-grown-OMFG concentrated-THC-mindbusters' in India but you can still find pot in insane quantities in India for insanely cheap...and the indian stuff is pretty good for naturally grown stuff. Btw, if you are in north America, there is no better place than Vancouver for pot- its cheaper here than most places, super-easy to get, the variety and quality factor is top-notch and while its 'technically illegal' for you to have it unless you got a medical condition, cops don't enforce it unless you are walking down the street with a couple of ounces of pot in small distributable baggies... PS: Cali bud is lower quality rip-offs of BC bud...organic cush....its the skinnier version of one of the BC budsl..i forget which..purple haze maybe....either way,most pot you find all the way down west coast north america is BC-grown.
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 ^ spot on...and head to Idukki for southern flavor :two_thumbs_up:
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 and while on that subject...if anyone gets a chance...try that grass oil...in India, and mostly from the northern states, bcos down south its relatively rare, unless someone makes a point of getting it..oil is great once in a while
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 hari,oil is easy to make if you have access to a grow-op. Out here, it is not that uncommon to have 'catering services' with THC-laced oil. The other week, i ordered a nice butter chicken cooked with pot-oil and basmati rice ( came to $50 that i shared with 3 other people) and it was very good. What you do for oil is pretty simple- you take the leaves and branches, you cut them up in small pieces(like a few millimeter long,few millimieter wide at most- LOTS of snipping work). Then you take a pot, throw in a pound or two of ghee in it, put it on low heat and melt the ghee- then put your pot leaves (mulching is the word for cut-up small bits), mix well ( it should NOT be more than 2 parts ghee 1 part pot by volume when mixing in), cover and let it simmer at low heat...after 15-20 minutes of low-heat simmering, take it off the fire, pour the ghee through a strainer and get the trimmings off- toss those. Store the ghee and cook with it/make brownies with it.... Doing it with buds is not the best way to go though- too much THC is lost because thc in the bud is right on the surface and escapes with little heating, while THC is not on the surface of the leaves and have to be liberated.
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 I know a friend who could do it in NY, its cumbersome I thought...but on a diff note, grass oil when smoked normally , just as a normal joint was very good...its been so many years, but I remember I never believed it till a friend proved it to me...more common in the northern states, and also the hill states etc. You get it in shops too along with ordinary pot in Shillong and some other places In simple terms, its just a sticky paste version, but its less cumbersome when you have 5 min to rush to a boring lecture and can just use a smear on a cigarette and smoke it as you stroll down, and the effect will last till your prof is back in his office and you are informed about it
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 WHYYY would you SMOKE grass OIL ? Its so cumbersome to make and if you are going to smoke it anyways- just smoke some good buds and a bit mroe of it anyways! It will work out just the same. Not to mention, grass oil is AWESOME for body-stoned through annointment or oral consumption. I don't like smoking pot on a regular basis- the smoke is harsh on the lungs, it makes your clothing stink, you gotto do something about the roaches and you lose about 30-40% THC content through sublimation when smoking anyways.....eating the oil through food gets you a lot higher for a LOT longer and it doesnt stink up the place or cause you grief about where/how to dispose off the roaches...
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Ok...its a bit detailed thingy, but I can tell you the basic principles of any drug is the rate of intake/reaching the central nervous system...and eating it is not comparable to smoking. Why do folks shoot heroin ? any opiate , even taken orally produces the same effect and all substances eventually have to go to the blood stream ....drinking 10 bottles of codeine phosphate too will have the same effect...but 1 gm of heroin straight, or perhaps even inhaled always does a better job. I guess thats a bit of an explanation, and quite apart from that...I think taking pot with friends does have some process associated with it, and its a totality of experience....smoking in a group is anyday better than consuming oil with butter chicken. trust me ( if you are referiing to the same version/flavor of grass oil I am ) its a very good smoking experience and I have heard it from many of those yogi folks uphills too who are perhaps the best authorities on the subject, although I had tried it just a couple of times.
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 WHYYY would you SMOKE grass OIL ? Its so cumbersome to make and if you are going to smoke it anyways- just smoke some good buds and a bit mroe of it anyways! It will work out just the same. Not to mention, grass oil is AWESOME for body-stoned through annointment or oral consumption. I don't like smoking pot on a regular basis- the smoke is harsh on the lungs, it makes your clothing stink, you gotto do something about the roaches and you lose about 30-40% THC content through sublimation when smoking anyways.....eating the oil through food gets you a lot higher for a LOT longer and it doesnt stink up the place or cause you grief about where/how to dispose off the roaches... Its cumbersome of course like I mentioned earlier and I was referring to just that if available and someone gives it ready, then smoking it...but I wouldnt go out of my way for oil, if at all I do it, yes, the wiser thing to do would be just the normal buds smoked...I mentioned that the oil too does a lot, in a matter of diff flavors of pot ( at least the way I had seen it/used it)
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 and eating it is not comparable to smoking. Eating is FAR more efficient and 'cleaner' than smoking ! You get FAR more efficient transfer through intestinal absorption than inhalation- simply because of how the chemistry of the body works- in respiratory process, the transfer is STRICTLY through osmosis, while in oral process, it is through osmosis AND absorption through dilution. Dont forget that THC sublimates fairly easily...when you are smoking it, you are losing 30-40% THC simply from it sublimating in air through your heat-source(the lighted joint)....when you eat it, you dont lose 30-40% of THC from what you started! Why do folks shoot heroin ? any opiate , even taken orally produces the same effect and all substances eventually have to go to the blood stream ....drinking 10 bottles of codeine phosphate too will have the same effect...but 1 gm of heroin straight, or perhaps even inhaled always does a better job. People shoot/smoke stuff because the ONLY drawback to the oral process is that it has a time-delay aspect to it. You eat a pot cookie, it will take 30 min for you to digest it and then feel the effects.Direct dumping in the blood is the most efficient,but impractical for pot and the ONLY reason people smoke up in the first place is because it is much simpler to smoke the stuff than eat it (you gotto PREPARE food with the oil after you PREPARE the oil as opposed to just finding a pipe and a lighter) and the effects are near-instantaneous. I know this from FIRST HAND experience and ANY pot smoker who's tried eating it will tell you that the duration and intensity from eating equal amounts of THC is WAY HIGHER than smoking it. Trust me on this- i gram of pot here would cost you 10-12 bucks...you smoke the whole thing, you will feel it IMMEDIATELY and get you really high that'd last you 8-12 hours. (Btw, smoking 1 gram by yourself is SERIOUS quantity in 1 sitting). You EAT a pot-cookie made from 1 gram pot-converted to butter = you dont feel a thing for 15 minutes, you get only mildly high by 30 minutes, but by 2 hour mark, you are 3-4 times 'higher' than by smoking and you are still going to be blazed for 18-20 hours later. THAT is the difference and trust me on this, i know this from first hand experience! smoking in a group is anyday better than consuming oil with butter chicken. trust me Eating in a group is just as social as smoking in a group, if not more socially immersive, as it lasts longer! and I have heard it from many of those yogi folks uphills too who are perhaps the best authorities on the subject, although I had tried it just a couple of times. Yogis are hardly the best authorities in this subject....they consume copious amount of pot, but where does the himalayan cave-yogi-man get ghee, pots and pans to make pot-butter anyways ? They consume almost exclusively by smoking it- so i don't see how they can be any sort of 'authority' on the various processes of consumption.
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 ned earlier and I was referring to just that if available and someone gives it ready, then smoking it... No what i mean is, after you've gone through all the trouble to make the oil ( you or ANYONE), why would you then smoke it , given that you are instantly losing 30-40% of THC through simple sublimation from heat (ie, THC sublimating into the air while you are smoking it and not making it to your lungs).. Its like going through hours of process...and then taking the inferior route of consumption..doesnt make sense, which is why i asked the question.
Guest HariSampath Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Ok...look at it from this point of view...from your side...you havent made it...someone has ( for which you incur a cost ), either way...then on , the intake is 2 things 1. process of intake itself. Here I always lay emphasis ( whatever pot) on using with a group of friends, a wide open space, cool nights, the stereo playing etc...and then 2. Why would you bother with a 30% waste , I dont think I would worry too much, and as the chelum goes around and enough stuff for the weekend, its just getting high and enjoying the process too....here the smoking fits in better than butter chicken. NOtte : I always found that too much emphasis on how efficiently you use any stuff/bother about a bit of waste etc spoils the experience..you can always get high enough if you want in any manner, I found that taking these things without a lot of thought of whether you are using in the perfect manner possible, is the key. And smoking any stuff gets it into the central nervous system much faster than eating it, because this is an indirect route through the digestive/bloodstream process and the other route through the lungs although more unhealthy directly takes it.
CC1981 Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 Hari, in that case, i have a suggestion for you- pass the chillum around but also keep a few cookies handy...that you'd eat while smoking. Besides, instead of a chillum, do a bong- its just as social but WAY better since the smoke is water-cooled and not so harsh on your throat. And no, eating pot is a different kind of stoned than smoking it- nomatter how much you smoke, you wont get as stoned as eating it unless you kept smoking for 4 hours straight- simply because the 'instant effect' of smoking platues out really early. While i am eating it, i am 'still climbing' 3 hours after eating and its slightly less 'mental' and slightly more 'physical' stoned. Out here, the two distinct groups are ones who prerfer to eat it only and others who prefer to smoke and eat it..i fall in the latter category, though i appreciate eating it more than smoking it- as i said, its more 'economical' to eat it than smoke it (i hate wasting stuff, seriously!) and its just way healthier and more conspicuous.
Sachinism Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 What Manala Hash in India, something i've been told about, but dont quite know what it is Fav weed from what i've had is Blueberry Haze and White Widow which had me mashed up I need to find some more varieties in London
Rohan495 Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 What Manala Hash in India, something i've been told about, but dont quite know what it is Fav weed from what i've had is Blueberry Haze and White Widow which had me mashed up I need to find some more varieties in London Hash is some dank stuff, facks me up. I really am i a big fan of whitewidow not only is it crazy sativa strain it has a great taste.
Rohan495 Posted May 6, 2008 Author Posted May 6, 2008 Weeds of ive tried 1. Organic Kush 2.Bubba Kush 3. BC diesel 4. Sour Diesel 5. Headband(Hybrid of Sour diesel and organic kush) 6. Panama Red 7. Hash plant 8. Snowcaps 9. Banana Kush 10. Grape Ape 11. Grand daddy purps 12. Trainwreck 13. Master Kush 14. Romulan X 15. Purple Haze 16. Purple Master Kush 17. Gods Gift 18. Sweet tooth 19. Amsterdamn hash 20. Lemon Kush 21. Mau Wowi 22. Jack horor 23. jack flash 24. Pot of gold 25. Mango 26. Silver haze 27. G-13 -Ive tried much more. Just these are some that comes to mind .but you guys have to admit california is the melting pot of all herbs you can find
Sachinism Posted May 6, 2008 Posted May 6, 2008 wowwww thats a nice list i need to visit Cali one day out of ur list i've only had purple haze, lemon kush and mango damn :(( so badly want to try sour diesel
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