CSK Fan Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 If they win one match in the last over and get absolutely thrashed in the other' date=' they might not go through.[/quote'] Dude with 19 points, there is no way they are not going through. There is no way more than 4 teams will have 19 or greater points. Do the maths Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Dude with 19 points' date=' there is no way they are not going through. There is no way more than 4 teams will have 19 or greater points. Do the maths[/quote'] Maths lessons: a) DD beats Punjab and goes through with 20 points b) MI beats KKR and goes through with 20 points c) Chennai beats Punjab (by a huge margin) and gets to 19 d) Bangalore beats Delhi and Deccan by a huge margin and reaches 19 So KKR, Chennai and Bangalore are locked at 19 - Chennai and Bangalore go through because of their superior NRR. :bow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Think it has to be 19 or more. 18 may not be enough. For example, in a below scenario: MI v KKR MI v RR DD v RCB DD v KXIP KKR v PWI RCB v DC CSK v KXIP RR v DC DD v KXIP You end up with: MI DD KKR CSK RR KXIP 18 18 19 19 18 18 So, 18 ends up with NRR dependency. Think (not sure) for a confirmed place in play-offs, minimum 19 are needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Think it has to be 19 or more. 18 may not be enough. For example, in a below scenario: MI v KKR MI v RR DD v RCB DD v KXIP KKR v PWI RCB v DC CSK v KXIP RR v DC DD v KXIP You end up with: MI DD KKR CSK RR KXIP 18 18 19 19 18 18 So, 18 ends up with NRR dependency. Think (not sure) for a confirmed place in play-offs, minimum 19 are needed. even Minimum 19 wont guarntee u in certain cases Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Maths lessons: a) DD beats Punjab and goes through with 20 points b) MI beats KKR and goes through with 20 points c) Chennai beats Punjab (by a huge margin) and gets to 19 d) Bangalore beats Delhi and Deccan by a huge margin and reaches 19 So KKR, Chennai and Bangalore are locked at 19 - Chennai and Bangalore go through because of their superior NRR. :bow: There you go. 19 is also not good enough then. So, is it 20? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidhoni Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 The reason why 19 wont give u a guarantee is *****y teams like PWI and DC have not won many matches and so the teams have just gathered points by beating them. It has been 1-1 in terms of two teams facing each other. CSK 1-1 KKR CSK 1-1 DD KKR 1-1 DD RCB 1-1 MI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 even Minimum 19 wont guarntee u in certain cases Yep, right. Is 20 good enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Maths lessons: a) DD beats Punjab and goes through with 20 points b) MI beats KKR and goes through with 20 points c) Chennai beats Punjab (by a huge margin) and gets to 19 d) Bangalore beats Delhi and Deccan by a huge margin and reaches 19 So KKR, Chennai and Bangalore are locked at 19 - Chennai and Bangalore go through because of their superior NRR. :bow: people were saying 16 is safe before :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 people were saying 16 is safe before :hysterical: who imagined your fav team and DC combined get 13 points from possible 58 points :phehehe: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Yep' date=' right. Is 20 good enough?[/quote'] sure... because teams like KKR and MI and RR faces each other its not possible for more than 3 teams to reach 20 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old guy Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 who imagined your fav team and DC combined get 13 points from possible 58 points :phehehe: well we made tournament much more interesting :bow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 20 is a safe distance. Which means DD has to win one out of the 3 remaining matches, otherwise they are out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 sure... because teams like KKR and MI and RR faces each other its not possible for more than 3 teams to reach 20 points Yeah. Another way of visualizing the same would be, what absolute max points teams can garner. MI - 22 max DD - 24 max KKR - 21 max RCB - 19 max CSK - 19 max RR - 18 max KXIP - 20 max PWI - 10 max DC - 9 max Just a hypothetical scenario, because when one team gets to its max points, obviously somebody else cannot reach their max. But even when we consider such a hypothetical scenario, 20 seems good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 In other words, ATM no team is certain for a play-off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 In other words' date=' ATM no team is certain for a play-off.[/quote'] yes...but its very very remote chance DD wont qualify..they have great NRR also in case they lost all 3 matches next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CasualVisitor Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 yes...but its very very remote chance DD wont qualify..they have great NRR also in case they lost all 3 matches next Missed that angle. You are bang on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger80 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Punjab has 3 matches ,2 against DD 1 against Chennai,very difficult for them to get through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zap_Brannigan Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I know that there is still lot of permutations and combinations left in the season for the play-off spots. But, without going into every single possibilities, this is what each team most-likely has to do to enter the play-offs. Delhi are thro’ even if they lose all 3. They will be tied on points but its high NRR will make sure they are thro’. KKR needs to win both their last 2 games. Otherwise, they could find themselves in a NRR fight. MI needs one off its last 2. Doesn’t matter which. CSK needs to win its last and RCB to lose 1 off its last 2. Or hope that RCB doesn’t win big. But the NRR diff. is just around 56 runs that even 2 small decent wins will put RCB NRR more than CSK. RCB has to win both and win one big. Just chase down a target in 17 th over in both or in the 14 th in one, approximately. RR must win both and hope that CSK,RCB and K11 doesn’t win their games. K11 – win all 3 and go thro’ or if they lose 1, then let it be not against CSK. Delhi will most likely make it thro’ even without winning 1 more. MI is in the next best scenario in that it needs to win 1 out its 2. Others have to will it all and still have to hope that some results go their way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Missed that angle. You are bang on! If Delhi loses all three matches by 20-30 runs, they NRR of 7 will go down to about 4. Also MI may end up with 20 points, KKR with 19, Chennai with 19, and Bangalore with 19 too. Delhi goes out then anyway. Again, if RR wins both its matches, they'll be on 18 and their NRR might reach 5; if they have the same points as Delhi, then again Delhi will go out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magneto Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I know that there is still lot of permutations and combinations left in the season for the play-off spots. But, without going into every single possibilities, this is what each team most-likely has to do to enter the play-offs. Delhi are thro’ even if they lose all 3. They will be tied on points but its high NRR will make sure they are thro’. KKR needs to win both their last 2 games. Otherwise, they could find themselves in a NRR fight. MI needs one off its last 2. Doesn’t matter which. CSK needs to win its last and RCB to lose 1 off its last 2. Or hope that RCB doesn’t win big. But the NRR diff. is just around 56 runs that even 2 small decent wins will put RCB NRR more than CSK. RCB has to win both and win one big. Just chase down a target in 17 th over in both or in the 14 th in one, approximately. RR must win both and hope that CSK,RCB and K11 doesn’t win their games. K11 – win all 3 and go thro’ or if they lose 1, then let it be not against CSK. Delhi will most likely make it thro’ even without winning 1 more. MI is in the next best scenario in that it needs to win 1 out its 2. Others have to will it all and still have to hope that some results go their way. DD losing all three will mean their NRR going down drastically and RR wins two, they'll probably cross Delhi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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