bablankalhan Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 Harmison had 1-2 decent series and looked like a lost puppy most of the times. Flintoff cannot be termed as a great fast bowler in any discussion. They are not the gold standard against whom batsmen's performance is judged. If you can't score against the likes of Donald' date=' Ambrose, Ws and then suddenly start scoring once these guys are retired and score against the likes of Harmison & Flintoff it'd a negative against you.[/quote'] Steve Harmison was number one bowler in ICC Rankings in 2004 for almost a year...Injuries hit Pommies after winning Ashes in 2005...Simon Jones was never the same bowler... Flintoff is pretty much under rated...just take a look at his spell against India in 2003 World cup...! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bablankalhan Posted August 30, 2012 Author Share Posted August 30, 2012 yeah Donald/Wasim/Waqar/Ambrose/Walsh/McGrath era will never come again ....and agree with u that Harmison and Freddie cant be compared with them....but still both of them played a huge role in building up England as a World force !! :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted August 31, 2012 Share Posted August 31, 2012 Steve Harmison was number one bowler in ICC Rankings in 2004 for almost a year...Injuries hit Pommies after winning Ashes in 2005...Simon Jones was never the same bowler... Flintoff is pretty much under rated...just take a look at his spell against India in 2003 World cup...! One odd spell doesn't make Flintoff a great as I can point to Nehra's spell as well in the very same match :giggle: As for Harmison surely he can't even be considered a "good" fast bowler historically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bablankalhan Posted September 2, 2012 Author Share Posted September 2, 2012 Flintoff and Harmison were part of 2 Ashes wins and South African tour in 2004 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted September 2, 2012 Share Posted September 2, 2012 Flintoff and Harmison were part of 2 Ashes wins and South African tour in 2004 Doesn't make them greats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bablankalhan Posted September 3, 2012 Author Share Posted September 3, 2012 Doesn't make them greats. so who according to u is ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimate_Game Posted September 3, 2012 Share Posted September 3, 2012 so who according to u is ? Already mentioned earlier... Ambrose, Walsh, Wasim, Waqar, Donald, McGrath, Steyn. Akhtar is on the line as he didn't play to many Tests and missed more Tests than he played. Unfortunately 2000s was pretty poor as far as quality pacers go and Hayden cashed in. One of the luckiest players IMO who was found out against quality bowlers in 90s and came back to resurrect his career once the greats had retired from the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaurav92 Posted September 4, 2012 Share Posted September 4, 2012 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bablankalhan Posted September 4, 2012 Author Share Posted September 4, 2012 Already mentioned earlier... Ambrose' date=' Walsh, Wasim, Waqar, Donald, McGrath, Steyn. Akhtar is on the line as he didn't play to many Tests and missed more Tests than he played. Unfortunately 2000s was pretty poor as far as quality pacers go and Hayden cashed in. One of the luckiest players IMO who was found out against quality bowlers in 90s and came back to resurrect his career once the greats had retired from the game.[/quote'] :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSaraf Posted September 23, 2012 Share Posted September 23, 2012 Ricky Ponting cant be termed in same league as Sachin and Brian..reason is he flopped in Sub Continent..dont think he will remembered once he hangs his boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bablankalhan Posted September 26, 2012 Author Share Posted September 26, 2012 Ricky Ponting cant be termed in same league as Sachin and Brian..reason is he flopped in Sub Continent..dont think he will remembered once he hangs his boots he will be remembered for his cheating antics...:punter: will be never forgotten Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrSaraf Posted October 13, 2012 Share Posted October 13, 2012 he will be remembered for his cheating antics...:punter: will be never forgotten :haha::hysterical::haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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