umpire Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I can't remember Kiwi line up ever having a leggie. Why is that? Don't they have half decent leggies in their domestic circuits. Over the years they had good to brilliant left arms from Mathew Hart to Vettori But no leggies. Link to comment
King Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 There wasn't even half decent spinner since Vettori came about and Vettori averages 35 or something in NZ. The pitches and weather conditions just doesn't permit slower bowlers to excel in NZ. There have been Bracewell, Wiseman, Dipak Patel and the likes but the can hardly be termed as world class. Brooke Walker from Auckland was a pretty successful leggie that retired couple of years ago (when he was 27 years of age). He had a action like Warnie but that's about it to write home about. He played a few tests and ODIs but failed to deliver. Tarun Nethula's name has been brought up a few times in the last year or so but he's still to make good the promise in domestic cricket yet. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Given the pitches in NZ, a wrist spinner would be a much more potent option there than a finger spinner of equal caliber. But one reason I can think of the top off my head is the short boundaries on most grounds in NZ. As a wrist spinner you are bound to bowl the more than odd long hop or full toss and if those errors are regularly punished with maximum strikes they can certainly spoil the figures for you. A finger spinner has much more control on the other hand. Another reason is the pitches where the rough outside the leg stump hardly comes into play, making people perhaps opt for a more defensive run controlling option in a finger spinner. Weather can also play a part - cold, damp weather is perhaps the worst aide to a wrist spinner who needs all the control on the ball he can get. Link to comment
umpire Posted March 31, 2009 Author Share Posted March 31, 2009 What is Warne's record in NZLand? I think most important reason is lack of heroes. Kids do not have anyone to look upto? Good leggie is good leggie irrespective of pitch condition. He can keep tight and also buy wickets. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 A good wrist spinner cannot always keep it tight - great ones like Warne and Kumble can but merely "good" leg spinners are always going to throw in long hops and full tosses. It's not without reason that wrist spin is considered the most difficult skill to master in cricket. Link to comment
King Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 What is Warne's record in NZLand? I think most important reason is lack of heroes. Kids do not have anyone to look upto? Good leggie is good leggie irrespective of pitch condition. He can keep tight and also buy wickets. That's a good point you make. There are a lot of left arm spinners and off spinners but even these days you don't find too many leg spinners at the grass root level. That surely has something to do with lack of heroes practicing this skill in NZ. Link to comment
gaurav92 Posted April 1, 2009 Share Posted April 1, 2009 New Zeland pitches are quite hard and does not allow cracks to open up....and the weather is mostly cloudy and hardly sun bakes down...so there is not crack at the pitch untill day 5 and no one wants to take chance of taking a leg spinner who could spin the ball and be effective only on day 5(may be the game will be over in lesser days) so in that way its very difficult for a leggie to stay alive in new zeland for a long period of time as he will be taken alternatively and not regularly......plus....the wrist spinners need some bounce and also the soil that can just hold up a bit.....but in new zeland the soil is quite sticky and the ball somehow tends to skid which is not a good sign for wrist spinners.....that is why the leggies find it very difficult to tour new zeland some examples are Danish Kaneria(04/05) Stuart Mcgill(05) Malinga Bandara(06) Amit Mishra(09) Link to comment
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