CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 First for the verbal part, ask her to come to this forum and we will take it from there on. She isn't interested- she isnt Indian, she isnt into cricket and she definitely isnt into political discussions. In other words, this forum = waste of time for her. by the way, how come you are wagering $ 100 on your girlfriend's ability to verbally and physically fight with me ? Because i know of her abilities fairly well, LOL! Whether she has the ability to fight with me verbally or physically, how come you assume she would want to do so ? Again, because i know of her nature fairly well. Perhaps something a 40-year old single-man won't comprehend about! This is basic relationships, buddy. and then I may not want to physically fight with an woman Yet another example of male chauvinism that runs deep in your psyche. sad,really. And you deride ancient historic stories like mahabharat and Ramayan ? No, i don't. I said that they arnt sources of history because they are epic mythologies, not historic documents with agreed-upon consistency. You know what happened then when a king wagered his wife ? No wonder you havent learnt anything.. I didn't wager my gf- i wagered FOR her. Big difference- and again, as i said, i don't need advice from a 40-year old single desi on relationships- i am more than capable of dealing with them on my own and i'd wager i have more experience on that than 90% people here. caught publicly at deviant behavior, and here you go, angry frustrated, and spout psycho-babble...I am sure everyone in this forum can read what you had written earlier and and what I wrote based on your posts. yes they can. Nothing deviant about giving freedom to an adult for their choices, especially when the activity in discussion isn't illegal. The real deviancy is about killing her (like desis here are notorious for doing), tying her up/locking her to her room etc etc. for the choices she made. Those behaviours belong in the middle ages, not in the modern world- but then again, most desis arnt cultured enough to realize that. you were caught off guard and you spilled your inner personality here So did you with your focus on incest- says a lot about your psyche, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 1. He would try to analyse the "motives" of his daughter in having that splendid ambition. Yes, and i stand by that. I know one such girl (and we are still friends) who funded her MBA education by being a prostitute. The moment she got her degree, she broke away from that and from what i can tell, she doesnt have any major issues with it- it was simply a job for her, nothing more and if anything, it is reflective of man's psyche than her's. In such a specific scenario, i am not judgemental on their nature. There are always unique situations for everything, champ. 3. He would try to advise her that he is not for it, but will NOT stand in her way or try to strongly stop her. Yup. That is ofcourse (and i've already said it) if she is an adult. If she is a minor, yes, i'd take steps but once an adult, i'd respect her choices just as i'd expect her to respect mine. 5. If she tells him she has just bagged the lead role in a incest porn film, he would tell her to do her best, and even ask his friends to help her do the job with "authenticity" That is a categoric mispotrayal of me- you initially said 'incest film' and i said thats fine by me- what you implied was a Earth/Fire/Water type critically acclaimed mainstream film- and in that sense, i'd totally support her. You inserted the 'incest porn film' later on and totally twisted what i said! I've already corrected you once, i will not do so again. 6. But through ALL this, he would remain an affectionate, responsible father, all the while available for his daughter , still love her and of course respect her independent thinking, free intellectual expression and her chosen career path. Damn right! Thats what parenting is all about. Its not about shooting your daughter/killing her like desis do, its not about selling her away in marriage like desis do or locking her up like desis do. That type of behaviour is barbarism and ironically, not something our ancestors practiced either. If I say that daughters who say that should be given a hard slap and admitted to mental hospital for psychatric gtreatment, I am a male autocrat Damn right! Your responsibility towards your daughter is to be a father who's there for them through thick and thin. To respect their life choices and to make the best of it for them. Not to impose your will and your idea of archaic thinking on what is right/what is wrong on them- these things evolve with time. Your types are the ones who cop-out and are a disgrace to parenting in my books. And if I tell him he should be shot on sight , I am a Hindu terrorist Considering that you think i should be shot on sight for respecting my adult daughters' choices, yes that makes you very much a retarded terrorist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The irony here is that prostitutes and porn stars generally come from rigid family backgrounds like our chaddhidhari friends here are describing while in liberal and educated families the question posed just remains hypothetical. Precisely. And shhh ! Don't spoil my fun here, brother. :cantstop: These rigid morality lessons where 'father beats up daughter coz she has a boyfriend/didnt wait till marriage' etc etc. are the ones who are usually the most abusive towards their women and most messed up women come from such backgrounds. But then again, you'd not expect a middle-aged guy with no relationship experience,much less parenting experience, to know such nuances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The porn industry is based in California - the most liberal part of the United States Yes that is because California LAWS allow pornography production- so does Arizona i think ( Las Vegas is bigtime into sex-industry as well). However, it is a fact that MOST female pornstars come from conservative backgrounds and usually from the bible-belt. There was an ABC documentary on this ( i think called 'life of a pornstar', not sure though) few years ago and it established that most female pornstars come from conservative abusive backgrounds, even the east-european ones. It is simply a question of repressed sexuality coupled with familial abuse(which happens mostly in conservative families, NOT in liberal families) that makes them messed up enough to be pornstars. However, there are a select few in the sex trade industry who specifically use the money to further career interests(and there is a LOT of money for good-looking women in prostitution- with a bit of luck and common sense,they'd easily be making more money than even our so-called 'quadruple-degree holding six figure US$ salaried desh-premi'). Lets delve into another hypothetical- say i am totally broke and my daughter had the burning ambition to become a Harvard graduate in MBA. Hell, i don't even have to be totally broke- even most 'professionals' cant afford to put their children through a US$40,000/yr education bill. Now, if my daughter ended up prosituting for 3-4 yrs while going to school to pay the bills, gets her degree and promptly gives up prostituting, gets a boyfriend, starts 'mainstream dating' etc etc.- would it be really wise for me to stand in her way initially ? I don't think so- which is why i said initially that it is down to motive/personality in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 STFU you so & so .... why let facts get in the way .... :giggle::cantstop::hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 @ CC1981... Ok...CC..I shall *respect* your family rights....your daughter can become a whore/porn star, your wife can get into orgies, your son can screw sheep...and you watch...happy ? ( just keep us all posted on how the careers are progressing, mebbe you may add the ICF banner on youtube when you post footage of these "advanced living" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 .your daughter can become a whore/porn star, your wife can get into orgies, your son can screw sheep...and you watch...happy ? Hate to say this, but these type of comments are more implicit of YOUR psyche than anything. First the out-of-blue focus on incest with daughter ( hmm..and you are the 40-year old single male, while i am a 26 year old male in a relationship..i wonder who fits the profile of a paedophile better?), now its about orgies with wife, beastality with son (btw, i will never approve beastality)... Like i said before, i am glad you are a single man- and maybe you are single and childless for a deeper reason than you realize. PS: I am yet to see you apologize for twisting my words by asking me if i'd endorse my daughter doing a film about incest to 'so you'd endorse your daughter to an incest porn film ? eww!'. I guess that is the standard MO of RSS types, eh ? Intellectual integrity quotient = zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HariSampath Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hate to say this, but these type of comments are more implicit of YOUR psyche than anything. First the out-of-blue focus on incest with daughter ( hmm..and you are the 40-year old single male, while i am a 26 year old male in a relationship..i wonder who fits the profile of a paedophile better?), now its about orgies with wife, beastality with son (btw, i will never approve beastality)... Like i said before, i am glad you are a single man- and maybe you are single and childless for a deeper reason than you realize. PS: I am yet to see you apologize for twisting my words by asking me if i'd endorse my daughter doing a film about incest to 'so you'd endorse your daughter to an incest porn film ? eww!'. I guess that is the standard MO of RSS types, eh ? Intellectual integrity quotient = zero. No I have no need to apologise for anything....I asked you a starightforward question on what would you do if your daughter had bagged a role in an incest flick, and you reply is there for the whole world to see, no twisting on my part. You had said that you would get friends to help her do the role with authenticity....so ..go and teach her to moan...and what is wrong with me suggesting other things ? IF your wife is into orgies, IF your son screws sheep etc, you wouldnt "stand in the way" right ?? in any case, all this is hypothetical as you neither have a wife nor a son, right ? I may be 40 and you may be 26, I tell you I have seen more relationships and women than you ever will in your life and ALL were with normal women, NOT your type of debauchery approving/abetting types... Now that you have been exposed ( for those who didn't know you)...I am completely ignoring you, so go take a rest....sick moron.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 ...I asked you a starightforward question on what would you do if your daughter had bagged a role in an incest flick, and you reply is there for the whole world to see, no twisting on my part. You quite deliberately twisted it and you keep on twisting it even as we speak right now! When you ask someone what they'd do if XYZ is in an incest flick, the reference is IMMEDIATELY taken as a film about incest, sort of like how water was about lesbianism, earth about religious fanaticism,etc. You are implying a mainstream publicly screened movie here. And that is PRECISELY what i answered to when i said 'i'd be happy for her, hope she nails the role and get some of my psych. friends to give more authenticity to her performance'. YOU twisted that to ' so you will do all this if your daughter is in an incest porn film? how disgusting!' It is YOU, only after i'd replied to the 'incest film', did you twist and change it to 'incest porn film' and in typical bhagwaa-brigade fashion, went around sermonizing how debased I am, based on something i didn't say and YOU twisted! I've clarified this several times now. Yet you shamelessly keep twisting what i said. And even then, i've clarified, the moment i saw you twist my words from 'incest film' to 'incest porn film' and you have not taken that clarification into consideration, instead chosing to only pontificate on he basius of YOUR twistings. That alone shows how shamelessly bhagwaa-brigade fanatic type you are, to simply twist someone's points disingeneously, totally ignore the pointed reminders of the clarification and keep preaching! IF your son screws sheep etc, you wouldnt "stand in the way" right ?? Stop ranting like a one-track moron and read what i have to say first. I've already said that i won't stand for beastality ever. Period. I tell you I have seen more relationships and women than you ever will in your life and ALL were with normal women, NOT your type of debauchery approving/abetting types... Riiight.... 40 year old RSS-type desi is boasting of cassanova lifestyle and then goes lecturing about maryaada purushottam and proper moral conduct towards children. Sorry, champ, but that is way too inconsistent to be true or taken seriously. Btw, women arn't commodity to me- i've been with several, maybe i will be with several more, but if you wanna thump your chest about how you've been with more women than i will in my whole life, go ahead- that only further exposes your commodizing of women than anything else. It is not really about many women you've had its about how many actual relationships you've had. And given your fixation with incest, beastality, orgies along with the typical 'i will lock my daughter up/send her to mental institution' threats, we can all infer who is more likely to abuse his daughter- me or you, the 40 year old childless single man with interesting fixations on sexual perversions. I will remind you that i made a one-liner comment about not standing in her way even if she wants to become a pornstar- something that even though i consider to be morally sound, i didn't fixate upon and left it as an example. It is *YOU* who delved straight into incest, orgies, beastality, etc etc. Coupled with your 40 year old single & childless status, it is *YOU* who is exposing more about your psyche than me, champ. Now that you have been exposed ( for those who didn't know you)...I am completely ignoring you, so go take a rest....sick moron.. I wonder who lieth exposed..me or thou...given that YOU have been grilled on this topic by several, while it is only YOU who've rather disingenously twisted what i said and ranted about it like a fanatic propagandist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Oh Boy....I asked for a source and this is the response you come out with!! Just asking you to measure yourself up to the same standard that you demand from the rest. Oh Boy, pay a visit to GB Road in Delhi and let me know how many daughters of Engineers, Doctors, and Professors do you find prostituting themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 PS : And Oh Boy again, because there was a proper documentary on one of the channels which showed how most of the porn stars in the US have their origins in the Bible Belt. Oh Boy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 LOL. Are you sure you are doing something worthwhile in your life? doubtful No I am not doing anything worthwhile in my life. You finally got something right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Sarky, one piece of advice: if you are trying to bait Swetabh, you are in a futile quest- he is the most unbaitable person on this forum, really. And i find your stance perplexing. This is a messageboard and Swetabh has quoted a source- i am not sure why exactly you are failing to accept that- should you wish, i can look up the name of the documentary myself and post it- but the topic itself simply doesnt warrant such levels of meticulousness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 "on one of the channels"....this is how scientists quote their source! LOL. Are you sure you are doing something worthwhile in your life? doubtful Hilarious that sarky has decided to pass judgement on Shwetabhs personal (real life) based on message board posts :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CC1981 Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Apologies, i should've said Swetabh has mentioned a source, not quoted one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fineleg Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Hilarious that sarky has decided to pass judgement on Shwetabhs personal (real life) based on message board posts :hysterical: Ok fineleg...about time you started another thread (whinefest) :) well, i'll start the cricket threadz when our cricketers screw up. Right now, in this forum, we are talking abt u passing commentz on someones real life based on Forum posts. Thats unwarranted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Please dont run away like a chicken....afterall' date=' you are the keyboard warrior.[/quote'] Chicken? Warrior? I think you are taking things a bit too seriously. As for the source, if I remembered which channel I had seen it on, I would have mentioned it but have enough credibility built over the past few years amongst fellow posters to know that most of them will take my word for it even if I cannot point them to the exact source. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Outsider Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 No I dont take it too seriously. But I dont take it too lightly either to post unsubstantiated drivel. Yes, I would dream up a post about a documentary so that I can score some brownie points on an online forum. You are a very perceptive man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
head coach Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Shoot the hijackers and get the thread back in its space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhondy Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 That is a distinct possibility. No, it isn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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