Question to the Aussie fans regarding their teams behaviour?

[Whisper]

but to be fair the only time the aussies have complained is when the taunts got racial.

[udaydewan]

CA should take tough stand against sledging.

[Pancho]

So basically they need to be un-friendly to be competitive and win series'.

to win the series it was viewed that australia was better off treating the series like a battle. plenty of time for friendly beers after the game or at the end of the series. its not the deciding factor on whether we win or lose or series. but australia is the best in the world at mind games and many critics felt we werent at our sharpest due to a number of factors. one of those being we were socialising with the opposition during games too much. its not about being unfriendly, and abusing them.. we only do that to India because we dont like them.

[suraj]

The problem is not with the hardline approach, because many teams over the years had gotten used to the hardline approach by the Aussies. The problem I have is that now the Aussies are complaining about a similar hardline approach adopted by Sreesanth, Harbhajan and Ishant. Its a 2-way street here and the Aussies don't get it. As Tony Greig said "They are happy to dish it out, but complain when it is given back". When they dish it out, they use the phrase "what happens on the field stays on the field", when they are given it back, they bring up "the spirit of cricket".

Aussies not only complain but whine like sissies and ***** & moan like cheap hookers who have not been paid enuff for their services Suddenly playing the game "hard" changes to" Mommy Mommy Bhajji abused me- please breast feed me"

[bharat297]

but to be fair the only time the aussies have complained is when the taunts got racial.

No, they complained before that. They complained about Sreesanth during the Future Cup. All Sreesanth ever did was give the batsman mean glares and stares. They have complained about Bhajji before aswell. There have been numerous instances before that too. Furthermore, Hayden was not even given a fine for mocking Ishant Sharma's accent on a recent radio interview. Isn't that racist?

[Pancho]

bharat maybe thats the difference between the 2 sides ? after all these were dhonis thoughts..

Mahendra Singh Dhoni, the Indian captain, believes Ishant Sharma was provoked by Andrew Symonds into the reaction that earned the young bowler an ICC reprimand and fine. Dhoni also said the Australians had turned this kind of incident into an art form and that India would need to catch up. "It's an art and they are good at it, but the Indians will learn soon,"

[bharat297]

Ok, granted the Australians are more clever in the way they sledge, ... but can any Australian fan answer my question, which is ... Dont you think its hypocritical for the Australian team to complain about the on-field behaviour of Harbhajan, Sreesanth and Ishant, given what the Australians have dished out over the years? If they believe sledging is part and parcel of the game, then they must accept it from other teams.

[Pancho]

impersonating an accent is racist these days is it ? :haha:

[Whisper]

No' date=' they complained before that. They complained about Sreesanth during the Future Cup. All Sreesanth ever did was give the batsman mean glares and stares. They have complained about Bhajji before aswell. There have been numerous instances before that too. Furthermore, Hayden was not even given a fine for mocking Ishant Sharma's accent on a recent radio interview. Isn't that racist?[/quote'] Fact: Sreesanth is the laughing stock of world cricket. Fact: Imitating an accent is not racist, it's a satirical impersonation and was done in jest. Noone with a sense of humour would take offence. I'm sure the Indians impersonate aussie accents all the time, the whole world impersonates australian accents FFS. Fact: Labeling someone of Negro descent a monkey IS racist as it suggests that they are less evolved than people of other descent.

[bharat297]

Since when isnt it?

[Pancho]

Ok, granted the Australians are more clever in the way they sledge, ... but can any Australian fan answer my question, which is ... Dont you think its hypocritical for the Australian team to complain about the on-field behaviour of Harbhajan, Sreesanth and Ishant, given what the Australians have dished out over the years? If they believe sledging is part and parcel of the game, then they must accept it from other teams.

no its not. the ICC has instructed captains to report anything they deem to breach the laws of cricket. nothing has stopped the other cpatains over the years from reporting us. if the ICC find us not guilty.. or dont fine us.. too bad. take it up with them. until then, we are going to get inside their heads, and perhaps its time other countries learnt how to deal with it because at the moment, the aussies are all over the indians in that regard.

[bharat297]

Fact: Sreesanth is the laughing stock of world cricket. Fact: Imitating an accent is not racist, it's a satirical impersonation and was done in jest. Noone with a sense of humour would take offence. I'm sure the Indians impersonate aussie accents all the time, the whole world impersonates australian accents FFS. Fact: Labeling someone of Negro descent a monkey IS racist as it suggests that they are less evolved than people of other descent.

First of all, your first fact is an opinion. Just because you claim its a fact doesnt make it so. LOL. Second of all, imitating an accent is considered racist according in many western countries. Just because it is common, doesnt make it not-racist. This is one explanation of racism laws in Australia, which do mention 'foreign accents' http://www.racismnoway.com.au/library/understanding/index-What.html This is another one from Scotland http://www.scotland.gov.uk/Publications/2006/05/23155332/12 Finally, in the case of Harbhajan, there was no evidence that proved he said the word monkey. There were 2 umpires at the scene, one of which was standing just a few feet away, and neither of them heard it. Yet, Matthew Hayden who was standing some 20 metres away had heard it. Somehow mysteriously, it wasn't picked up on the stump mics. You don't have to be a genius to realise that there is something suspicious about the whole situation.

[16 str8]

Ah, you Indians can whinge all you like. What is it going to achieve? Absolutely nothing. You complain about the Aussies, yet still call Symonds a monkey, and label all Australians convicts and uncivilized. Get over it. Australia has the dominating cricket side, and India can whinge. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

[bharat297]

Ah, you Indians can whinge all you like. What is it going to achieve? Absolutely nothing. You complain about the Aussies, yet still call Symonds a monkey, and label all Australians convicts and uncivilized. Get over it. Australia has the dominating cricket side, and India can whinge. Doesn't seem fair, does it?

I love this ... Im gonna stop asking you to answer the question, because all you ever come back to is the sides winning record, which for the quadrillionth time ... no one ever questioned ... lol. This thread was about their behaviour (I would have thought you would have got that from the title ... obviously I was wrong). Over the past few years, with every side that has come here ... the Aussies have had something to complain about for them. The Pommies are whingers, the Kiwis are whingers, the Pakistanis are whingers, Lankans are whingers. I guess its every other team's fault. Its amazing that these teams don't have a problem when they play each other. The fact is, the Aussies have a reputation in world cricket as being a side that will whinge when they are being challenged (you can avoid the issue all you want, but the rest of the world knows its true). Basically, the Aussies have whinged about every other country in world cricket. England - "Their bowlers use lollies to make the ball swing" India - "Their youngsters are too in-your-face and aggressive" New Zealand - "Their opener called us arrogant, and their crowds are too wild" West Indies - "Their batsmen made a comment about one of our players' wives" Pakistan - "Their bowlers chuck and are on drugs" Sri Lanka - "Their main spinner chucks" South Africa - "Their captain and keeper is too aggressive" Minnows - "They are too crap, we shouldnt even be playing them" Even former Australian players have realised this, and are disgusted by this. I realise that Australian Cricket is successful, but you don't see such behaviour in any other sport.

[sydneyfan]

1. The only formal complaint Australia made was one where they thought racism was involved. 2. None of the other things you lists as complaints or whining were ever formally made and are part of the usual psycholigcal banter. In this tour India has made 33 similar sort of complaints in the media and 2 formal complaints. The volume of Indain complaining is about 4 times that of Australias - yet Australia gets called the whiners. 3. Sure - India should try and counter Australia's mind games. But don't expect Australia to meekly give up its advantage. Dhoni has just stated India will sledge in theupcoming finals to counter Australia. Bring it on as far as i am concerned.

[bharat297]

1. The only formal complaint Australia made was one where they thought racism was involved. 2. None of the other things you lists as complaints or whining were ever formally made and are part of the usual psycholigcal banter. In this tour India has made 33 similar sort of complaints in the media and 2 formal complaints. The volume of Indain complaining is about 4 times that of Australias - yet Australia gets called the whiners. 3. Sure - India should try and counter Australia's mind games. But don't expect Australia to meekly give up its advantage. Dhoni has just stated India will sledge in theupcoming finals to counter Australia. Bring it on as far as i am concerned.

For point no.1, that is incorrect. It is the only formal complaint that Australia have made during "this tour", yes. For point no.2, I believe that is actually incorrect, unless you can show me the 33 complaints ... as far as I have seen, the Indians have gone tit-for-tat with media complaints. At the end of the day, Australia have a reputation for taking on-field sledging too far. They didn't just gain that reputation by accident. Every single touring country has experienced that, and now other countries are starting to retaliate, and the Australians have been complaining in the media (obviously they can't make formal complaints because they do the same thing) and if you seriously think the Australian have only made 1/4 of the media complaints that India have, you are clearly mistaken. For point no.3, I agree with your view.

[King Tendulkar]

The main problem is match officials let these yobs get away with this behaviour. They are bias and a one of the main factors in the success of this team.

[cochise]

I have to agree with Marirs mania. Spirit is everything in sport.

[straight bat]

You can't solve anything or prove any points with a thread like this. The original question arose from a subjective assertion and facts were then sourced to prove the point. You should be in politics because as any poly will tell you there's lies, damn lies and statistics. I could just as easily assert the opposite and find just as many stats to back it up

[IndianRenegade]

no its not. the ICC has instructed captains to report anything they deem to breach the laws of cricket. nothing has stopped the other cpatains over the years from reporting us. if the ICC find us not guilty.. or dont fine us.. too bad. take it up with them. until then, we are going to get inside their heads, and perhaps its time other countries learnt how to deal with it because at the moment, the aussies are all over the indians in that regard.

Translation: We will continue to cheat, if you can try and convince the International Cowards Council that we cheat. But if you complain to the ICC or media, about us we will label you whiners. On the other hand if you cheat, we will call you cheaters and complain to ICC