Paarthiv Patel or Dinesh Kaarthick

[diegovegaz]

can anyone get some statistics for both the players during the recent ipl?? the number of runs scored, the number of catches\stumpings??

[Guest dada_rocks]

How did parthiv keep against murali in IPL

[The Outsider]

Parthiv even cost Chennai Superkings the final against Rajasthan by giving away that crucial bye in the last over. Please keep him as far away from the pitch as possible.

[amits]

and dinesh kartik even took delhi daredevils to the ipl semis. and in batting, atleast dinesh kartik can hit a 6, something which parthiv cant

[satishg]

and dinesh kartik even took delhi daredevils to the ipl semis. and in batting' date='[b'] atleast dinesh kartik can hit a 6, something which parthiv cant

so u take him into the test squad?? agreed KKD is a better all round batsman comapred to Parthiv but both are really not that great talents..decent batsmen with KKD better than Parthiv in keeping..if Parthiv plays that will be the end of kumbles career he wont get any caught behinds or stumpings and he ll retire out of sheer frustration..lets all pray that KKD holds on to the catches

[amits]

kumble would want dinesh kartik to be in the xi

[Dravid]

can anyone get some statistics for both the players during the recent ipl?? the number of runs scored' date=' the number of catchesstumpings??[/quote'] am pretty sure parthiv has more runs....since he opened and got to bat everytime... kkd came 5th-6th... didnt get to bat that much since sehwag-gambhir-dhawan finished it most of the time... kkd did have 1 match winning knock though

[amits]

Player     Mat Inns NO Runs HS    Ave  BF     SR 100 50 0 4s 6s 
PA Patel    13   13  2  302 54  27.45 297 101.68   0  2 1 42  3 
KD Karthik  13    8  2  145 56* 24.16 107 135.51   0  1 0 13  4

as we can c, dinesh kartik got lot less chances to bat, but he still scored faster than parthiv. also, dinesh kartik was able to hit a 6 off 26.75 balls on an avg, whereas parthiv took 99 balls to hit a 6. and even then, parthiv was able to hit a 6 due to the super-short boundaries in the ipl which were only wbout 58-60 m as compared to atleast 70 m in other forms of cricket. and parthivs avg is higher due to some supporting knocks which he played while chasing low scores like 120

[chanakya]

who cares if they know which end of the bat to hold. Test keeper, the guy who will drop the least amount of catches.

[diegovegaz]

kaarthick has an edge over paarthiv, he has more international xperience, and was in the test playing side till recent time as well it is almost certain that he'll get the games

[amits]

who cares if they know which end of the bat to hold. Test keeper, the guy who will drop the least amount of catches.

in that case, it has to be dinesh kartik. he doesnt drop catches. parthiv, on the other hand cant even take catches

[Indus_Army]

KKD is the correct choice. It's true that his glovework has diminished a bit since he has started playing in the side purely as a batsman. But being the fighter that KKD is, I'm sure he'll work hard to cement his WK position in the side. If given a chance, I hope Parthiv does not drive us to despair like he did down under in '04. Opportunity wasted!:angry_smile:

[amits]

i dont want that 2-year old parthiv to play cricket again. as for future wicket-keepers we have pinal shah & shreevats goswami, both 1000 times better than parthiv patel

[Indus_Army]

i dont want that 2-year old parthiv to play cricket again. as for future wicket-keepers we have pinal shah & shreevats goswami' date=' both 1000 times better than parthiv patel[/quote'] An early test cap might ruin things for Goswami, just like how it panned out with Parthiv. If KKD/MSD perform badly, the youngsters can be given a go.

[amits]

An early test cap might ruin things for Goswami' date=' just like how it panned out with Parthiv. If KKD/MSD perform badly, the youngsters can be given a go.[/quote'] but a early test cap helped tendulkar in becoming a great player. parthiv was a different case as he was just way too young & his keeping deteriorated after getting into intl cricket. dinesh kartik, atleast doesnt drop catches. and i would like to c goswami become the 3rd wicket-keeper option after dhoni & dinesh kartik

[King Tendulkar]

Has Patels keeping improved? May well have! Karthick sufferd from playing just as a fielder hence when given chance to take gloves he was not match sharp. Now Karthick has had time to prepare as he knows if he plays he will be keeper. I believe he will show what a talented glove man he is!

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'I have become a good wicketkeeper now' : Parthiv Patel 'When you are keeping wickets, you should concentrate 100 percent on your wicketkeeping,' says Parthiv Patel. More... 'I have become a good wicketkeeper now' The Rediff Cricket Interview July 17, 2008 Cricket fans will always remember Parthiv Patel as the baby-faced wicketkeeper who made his debut aged just 17, in the second Test against England [images] at Trent Bridge in 2002. His his gutsy batting in his debut Test and impressive showing with the gloves made many believe that he had the ability to serve for a long time. However, in a couple of years, his wicketkeeping skills dwindled, resulting in some even branding him 'goalkeeper'. He was dropped from the Indian team in 2004, but returned for the tour of Pakistan in 2006, only to be dropped again without being given a single opportunity. And just when it seemed it was all over for him, Patel stormed back into the scene with a string of impressive performances on the domestic circuit. The 2006-07 season signalled the turnaround for him as he finally started making telling contributions with the bat. The 23-year-old followed it up with another successful stint in 2007-08 and emerged the top scorer in the Ranji Trophy Plate Division with a tally of 615 runs in seven matches, which also helped his team, Gujarat, win the title. Then came the Indian Premier League [images], where he announced himself on the world stage, scoring 300 runs in 13 matches for the Chennai Super Kings [images]. The Gujarat wicketkeeper speaks with Special Correspondent Harish Kotian about his comeback to the Indian team for the Sri Lanka [images] tour. You are back in the Indian Test squad after nearly four years, though you were selected for the tour of Pakistan in 2006 but did not play. How does it feel to be back? It feels good to be back in the Indian Test squad, because I have performed consistently for the last few years. The selection is just reward for it. I had a very good season in domestic cricket this year and last year, so I am quite delighted that I am back in the Indian team now. Were you expecting to be selected for the Sri Lanka tour? I was not 100 percent sure, but I was definitely expecting a call. I had such a good season and knew that sometime soon I would definitely get a chance to play for India again. So are you ready for Test cricket, if given a chance in Sri Lanka. What makes you so confident? Obviously, coming after such a good season in domestic cricket you definitely feel confident in your abilities to perform at a higher level too. I am looking forward to playing for India again whenever I get the chance. What was the secret behind your successful run in domestic cricket the last few seasons? Performances matter at whatever level you play, so I was just trying to ensure that I performed well whenever I played. I worked hard on my batting after I was dropped from the Indian team, and was quite sure that my hard work would pay off some day. And, importantly, I was just keeping it simple and trying to enjoy my game. As the runs, my confidence also increased. That was also evident in the IPL. How difficult is it for wicketkeepers in places like Sri Lanka, where the ball stays low and slow, and spinners operate for most part? Yes, it is difficult for wicketkeepers wherever you play in the subcontinent. But I am sure that both wicketkeepers, me and Dinesh [Karthik], are ready for the job in the Test series. Whoever gets the chance will definitely perform well. Who is the most difficult bowler you have kept wickets against? Harbhajan Singh [images] and Anil Kumble [images] are the most difficult bowlers to keep wickets against because they have so many variations. But, if you play at the highest level, you have to do well against all bowlers in all conditions. Both are very consistent with their bowling and extract good bounce from the pitch. They rarely give loose deliveries and batting against them also difficult. What do you think went wrong in 2004 that you were dropped from the team? The main reason was that I was not 'keeping well. There was no other problem, because I was batting well then. But I identified the problem areas after I was dropped, worked hard on it and, I think, I have become a good wicketkeeper now. I have realised that when you are batting well, you should focus only on batting and when you are keeping wickets, you should concentrate 100 percent on your wicketkeeping. I am just looking for an opportunity during the Sri Lanka tour. I am sure that if I get it I will do well. You played with M S Dhoni [images] for the Chennai Super Kings. Did you feel any pressure playing under a wicketkeeper who is also your rival in the Indian team? It was good playing under Dhoni because he is a good leader and motivates the team. It was a good experience playing under him; I really enjoyed playing the IPL under his captaincy.

[DomainK]

He was too young when he came into international cricket. It has its advantages as well as disadvantages. Patel got more disadvantages. When he was dropped following the horrible Australian tour, the media asked him for his comments and I remember he just held up an article written by Shastri in a news paper saying that the team had collectively failed and its unfair to single out Patel and fire him. I didnt like that gesture from Patel at that time. When you have performed so poorly, you dont point finger at others. He should have quietly bowed out and made his way back into the team by playing better. But then he was just a kid who felt wronged. Once Dhoni and Karthik came in, it seemed Patel's international career was as good as over. But IPL allowed him the window and he is back in the team. I hope he gets to play one match at least.

[amits]

parthiv should not be anywhere near the indian team even. he cant keep at all. he even cost his team chennai the ipl making a crucial misfield towards the end. also in batting, he cant score quickly & cant even hit a 6. and his wicket-keeping might have improved, but it is nowhere near international standard

[theguyinallblue]

PaPa's batting was always better than his keeping... he handled australian bowlers on australian pitches quite well... it was his keeping which was a majot let down...and he has worked hard on his keeping..and batting as well.. he was among the top ranji scorers for 2 years...i think indian selectors should keep Patel and KKD in the loop and use them in rotation..