Problems in Pakistan

[MalikBrother]

Malik i think ur sig is missing an "S" unless you are making comparisons between Misbah and the caped crusader. As for the cricket thing, im sure 99.9% of the Pakistani ppls would want nothing more that to sit down and watch a game at home supporting their local team against teams from across the globe, unfortunately it's that .1% of nutbags that are the problem, and unlike Australia where those nutbags have eggs to throw http://news.theage.com.au/sport/hobart-hoons-egg-murali-20080204-1q3g.html The Pakistan variant has access to rifles, explosives, and military hardware.

Thank for tips about sig. First of all, Pakistan is in these kind of position because of War on Terror. Pakistan is fighting for America, but in return, Pakistan is getting suffered between Afghanistan, Taliban in Pakistan and USA. :nervous:

[Texy]

Thank for tips about sig. First of all, Pakistan is in these kind of position because of War on Terror. Pakistan is fighting for America, but in return, Pakistan is getting suffered between Afghanistan, Taliban in Pakistan and USA. :nervous:

you're wrong...PAKISTAN is in this position is because it NEVER dealt with "terror" in the 1st place...and now it's coming back to pakistan. Just like CIA created OSAMA and then OSAMA blows up 3k civilians ....pak is in similar situation but i'm afraid this will never stop for pak. Something is wrong in the education system itself....all the hatred being instilled into kids since childhood against india/hindus/ americans/ christians/ jews/israelis = kids growing up and something ticks them off and they join the terror camps to fight for the "cause" and then get mixed up and ends up killing their own people...as recently happened in a hospital in pak. Pakistan cricket suffers from the fall out.

[Texy]

Malik i think ur sig is missing an "S" unless you are making comparisons between Misbah and the caped crusader. As for the cricket thing, im sure 99.9% of the Pakistani ppls would want nothing more that to sit down and watch a game at home supporting their local team against teams from across the globe, unfortunately it's that .1% of nutbags that are the problem, and unlike Australia where those nutbags have eggs to throw http://news.theage.com.au/sport/hobart-hoons-egg-murali-20080204-1q3g.html The Pakistan variant has access to rifles, explosives, and military hardware.

.1% nutbags are supported by equal no. of able minded/ calm/ intelligent/ well educated/ well financed people with twisted ideologies

[MalikBrother]

you're wrong...PAKISTAN is in this position is because it NEVER dealt with "terror" in the 1st place...and now it's coming back to pakistan. Just like CIA created OSAMA and then OSAMA blows up 3k civilians ....pak is in similar situation but i'm afraid this will never stop for pak. Something is wrong in the education system itself....all the hatred being instilled into kids since childhood against india/hindus/ americans/ christians/ jews/israelis = kids growing up and something ticks them off and they join the terror camps to fight for the "cause" and then get mixed up and ends up killing their own people...as recently happened in a hospital in pak. Pakistan cricket suffers from the fall out.

Pakistan didn't has much bombing going on earlier before 9/11. This all started after 9/11. USA aimed for revenge, but in return, not only Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan has also suffering from the both sides to fight for USA. Pakistan situation was normal back then. It all started because of 9/11 and Pakistan is in these kind of position due to Afghanistan and USA. Hatred has nothing to do with why Pakistan is in this kind of position. In fact, if you have bothered to visit Pakistan, they love India and everything about India including Bollywood, Indian Cricket, and you name it. How old are you seriously? Hatred between Pakistan vs India was the past, but for some reasons, Indian still hate Indian Muslim in India. Gujarat is prime example of Genocide. No Offence. Kids in Pakistan are growing up in fond of India entertainement. So, the case of Hatred is not there anymore. It's better if you visit in Pakistan before make any comments. Better if you ask cricketer Balaji about hospitable he has received from Pakistani people when he was in Pakistan during the Samsung 2004. Hatred hardly exist in Pakistan, but may be in few cities. The same case in India as well. Right now, ever since USA has entered in Afghanistan, Iraq , the hatred increases on USA by the majority of Muslim in Pakistan and it was bound to happen. :nervous:

[MalikBrother]

.1% nutbags are supported by equal no. of able minded/ calm/ intelligent/ well educated/ well financed people with twisted ideologies

even educated person are racist, *****, hatred ...Many are example in India, in Australia, in England and in USA. It's everywhere.

[Guest Hiten.]

Pakistan didn't has much bombing going on earlier before 9/11. This all started after 9/11. USA aimed for revenge, but in return, not only Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan has also suffering from the both sides to fight for USA. Pakistan situation was normal back then. It all started because of 9/11 and Pakistan is in these kind of position due to Afghanistan and USA. Hatred has nothing to do with why Pakistan is in this kind of position. In fact, if you have bothered to visit Pakistan, they love India and everything about India including Bollywood, Indian Cricket, and you name it. How old are you seriously? Hatred between Pakistan vs India was the past, but for some reasons, Indian still hate Indian Muslim in India. Gujarat is prime example of Genocide. No Offence. Kids in Pakistan are growing up in fond of India entertainement. So, the case of Hatred is not there anymore. It's better if you visit in Pakistan before make any comments. Better if you ask cricketer Balaji about hospitable he has received from Pakistani people when he was in Pakistan during the Samsung 2004. Hatred hardly exist in Pakistan, but may be in few cities. The same case in India as well. Right now, ever since USA has entered in Afghanistan, Iraq , the hatred increases on USA by the majority of Muslim in Pakistan and it was bound to happen. :nervous:

Please reply to the quote in appropriate thread.

http://www.pakiztan.tv/capitaltalk.html Watch it particularly at 8:33 minute and see how brainwashed these poor victims are......

[King Tendulkar]

Pakistan didn't has much bombing going on earlier before 9/11. This all started after 9/11. USA aimed for revenge, but in return, not only Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan has also suffering from the both sides to fight for USA. Pakistan situation was normal back then. It all started because of 9/11 and Pakistan is in these kind of position due to Afghanistan and USA. Hatred has nothing to do with why Pakistan is in this kind of position. :

Instead they focused on exporting their bombings abroad to India. Their hatred was focused there! Now the chickens have come home to roost and the bombings and killings are on pakistan as well. Your people, goverment and ISI will still have not learnt the lessons of you reap what you sow! And you claim they startes after 9/11. So what! The fact is they have started! No excuses for such murderous behaviour. No you feel it is happening on your people and you dont like it. Hatred is everything why you are in this situation!

[MalikBrother]

Instead they focused on exporting their bombings abroad to India. Their hatred was focused there! Now the chickens have come home to roost and the bombings and killings are on pakistan as well. Your people, goverment and ISI will still have not learnt the lessons of you reap what you sow! And you claim they startes after 9/11. So what! The fact is they have started! No excuses for such murderous behaviour. No you feel it is happening on your people and you dont like it. Hatred is everything why you are in this situation!

You are f**ked up. Had you visit in Pakistan, then you would learned the whole picture. Right now, it's judging the cover without actually reading the novel. There will be hatred between Pakistan and India, but now, Pakistani people are fond of India entertainment and everything about India. Hatred has been reduced, and shifted the hatred toward the USA, UK, AUS. I don't know what is your problem. Everytime bomb incurs in India, and Indian political use the excuse that blame immediately on Pakistan to save their *** off. First of all, most of bomb blast take place in India mostly because of Indian political leaders and you guys are naive, no clue about political situation and is preached by Indian political leaders just to hate Pakistani no matter and even Indian Muslim people as well.... Pakistan was normal before 9/11. That's fact. There was a few bomb blast taken place, but crime offence wasn't that bad. In fact, it was little improved. Look at the crime rate in UK, Can, USA, Aus, are much worse than expected. Ever since, USA has entered after 9/11. Pakistan was pressurized by UN Nation, and had to support USA to go against Afghanistan and People in Balochistan and Peshawar. That's reason why Taliban and most Pathan are trying to throw bombs in Pakistan mostly in Sindhi and Punjabi areas. They were warning President to stop supporting USA. But president of Pakistan couldn't, do the pressure from USA. The situation in Pakistan has gotten much worse due to Afghanistan (Taliban, Pathan issues) and USA. It's Pakistan getting suffer now. Use your brain for God sake. Even Pakistan wasn't involved of Genocide as India was, care to remind you of Gujarat incident 02, huh?

[Texy]

Pakistan didn't has much bombing going on earlier before 9/11. This all started after 9/11. USA aimed for revenge, but in return, not only Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan has also suffering from the both sides to fight for USA. Pakistan situation was normal back then. It all started because of 9/11 and Pakistan is in these kind of position due to Afghanistan and USA. Hatred has nothing to do with why Pakistan is in this kind of position. In fact, if you have bothered to visit Pakistan, they love India and everything about India including Bollywood, Indian Cricket, and you name it. How old are you seriously? Hatred between Pakistan vs India was the past, but for some reasons, Indian still hate Indian Muslim in India. Gujarat is prime example of Genocide. No Offence. Kids in Pakistan are growing up in fond of India entertainement. So, the case of Hatred is not there anymore. It's better if you visit in Pakistan before make any comments. Better if you ask cricketer Balaji about hospitable he has received from Pakistani people when he was in Pakistan during the Samsung 2004. Hatred hardly exist in Pakistan, but may be in few cities. The same case in India as well. Right now, ever since USA has entered in Afghanistan, Iraq , the hatred increases on USA by the majority of Muslim in Pakistan and it was bound to happen. :nervous:

a: I'm missing the connection here....how is USA attacking iraq and removing taliban from afghanistan has to do with muslims blowing up muslims in pakistan? why jihad against your own brother? or is it that they are punishing people of pakistan because the govt is helping USA on war on terror? b: What's wrong with you? hatred is the seed of everything..... why do you think Indian suicide bombers don't blow up pakistanis in lahore and karachi? Why do you think young Indians don't cross over and attack mosques and hospitals in pakistan in the name of Ram or Krishna? There may be people who love Indian movies/ music....but there are many people in pakistan who has hatred too.....p....passion is a prime example of that...where people have threads of how bollywood corrupting pakistani families and islamic ideologies in pakistan. Hatred caused some people to behead Daniel pearl just coz he was a jew. Hatred is the reason for everything. b1: India is a secular country, not a Hindu rashtra in comparison to Pakistan -- Islamic republic. India has separate civil laws for different religions to satisfy people from each community...probably the only country to do that... muslims have powerful lobby in India and also hold high positions in law, education, civic, medicine and other professions. Muslims have the freedom to build their place of worship and worship without any fear or retribution....Govt pays subsidy for Haj pilgrims..... the only country in the world where minority gets grants to go on religious trips. Show me one muslim country that pays for hindu pilgrimage....now let's come to rights and freedoms hindus of pakistan or whatever is left of them enjoy in pakistan? c: Many countries, christian countries dislike USA and its foreign policies, but that does not resort to terrorism or killing. Lack of education/ media bias is also one of the reasons pakistanis seem to hate for wrong reasons...where are all the anger when a woman in Iraq blows up bunch of Shia pilgrims?? Where are all the anger when terrorists blows up christian leaders in LEBANON? where all the anger when pakistanis go to India and blow up hospitals?? Where are all the anger when indonesian muslims kill/ rape christian chinese women in Jakarta? Where all the anger when thai muslim terrorists kills buddhists? where are all the anger when palestinian terrorists bash the head of a 4 yr old jewish girl in Israel and shoots her father in front of her? Where are all the anger when black muslims in Darfur are getting killed by other muslim warlords? Why this double standard??

[Zap_Brannigan]

Pakistan fighting for America ?? Ha ha.....Right.Always be the first to blame someone else. Pakistan is in this position because of religious fanaticism. I am not saying that its the only cause or its absent in other religions (which it isnt, take a look at orissa now) but it is the fundamental problem. Politicians have used the word "Islam" to gather troops and get elected.Then they go rob the country or are incapable of running the country properly bcos that wasnt the merit they got elected upon. Mullahs have used word "Islam" to get funds and build schools which teach Islam. Now they are the biggest recruits for terrorists and since the school abhors science and logic, most of the graduates are not equipped to serve the country technically. Army has used the word "Kaffirs" to get funds to fight India. Now Pak has a huge budget for defense which should be used elsewhere. The fundamental problem being that the people of pakistan are quiet easily made puppets by opportunistic bastards thro a string called Islam.

[Texy]

You are f**ked up. Had you visit in Pakistan, then you would learned the whole picture. Right now, it's judging the cover without actually reading the novel. There will be hatred between Pakistan and India, but now, Pakistani people are fond of India entertainment and everything about India. Hatred has been reduced, and shifted the hatred toward the USA, UK, AUS. I don't know what is your problem. Everytime bomb incurs in India, and Indian political use the excuse that blame immediately on Pakistan to save their *** off. First of all, most of bomb blast take place in India mostly because of Indian political leaders and you guys are naive, no clue about political situation and is preached by Indian political leaders just to hate Pakistani no matter and even Indian Muslim people as well.... Pakistan was normal before 9/11. That's fact. There was a few bomb blast taken place, but crime offence wasn't that bad. In fact, it was little improved. Look at the crime rate in UK, Can, USA, Aus, are much worse than expected. Ever since, USA has entered after 9/11. Pakistan was pressurized by UN Nation, and had to support USA to go against Afghanistan and People in Balochistan and Peshawar. That's reason why Taliban and most Pathan are trying to throw bombs in Pakistan mostly in Sindhi and Punjabi areas. They were warning President to stop supporting USA. But president of Pakistan couldn't, do the pressure from USA. The situation in Pakistan has gotten much worse due to Afghanistan (Taliban, Pathan issues) and USA. It's Pakistan getting suffer now. Use your brain for God sake. Even Pakistan wasn't involved of Genocide as India was, care to remind you of Gujarat incident 02, huh?

Let's remind you of 1971, Jagannath college, Dhaka, Bangladesh. Pakistani army massacring hundreds of students and raping almost all the girls and then throwing their body off the balcony.....several pits were later found with bodies full of bullet holes..... 3 million massacred..... Gujrat incident is blip on the radar compared to that...

[King Tendulkar]

You are f**ked up. Had you visit in Pakistan, then you would learned the whole picture. Right now, it's judging the cover without actually reading the novel. There will be hatred between Pakistan and India, but now, Pakistani people are fond of India entertainment and everything about India. Hatred has been reduced, and shifted the hatred toward the USA, UK, AUS. I don't know what is your problem. Why have hatred at all? Do you guys always need someone to hate? Why now hate the yanks etc They have invaded Iraq and Afghanistan why does that bother paks? Everytime bomb incurs in India, and Indian political use the excuse that blame immediately on Pakistan to save their *** off. First of all, most of bomb blast take place in India mostly because of Indian political leaders and you guys are naive, no clue about political situation and is preached by Indian political leaders just to hate Pakistani no matter and even Indian Muslim people as well.... ISI and pak govt fosterd this terrorism. No terrorism in kashmir before 80s until pak decided it would be fun to get killing started. Bombings take place cos of indian leaders? They dont set the bombs offs. Muslims need to control their instincts and stop kiiling Pakistan was normal before 9/11. That's fact. There was a few bomb blast taken place, but crime offence wasn't that bad. In fact, it was little improved. Look at the crime rate in UK, Can, USA, Aus, are much worse than expected. Ever since, USA has entered after 9/11. Pakistan was pressurized by UN Nation, and had to support USA to go against Afghanistan and People in Balochistan and Peshawar. That's reason why Taliban and most Pathan are trying to throw bombs in Pakistan mostly in Sindhi and Punjabi areas. They were warning President to stop supporting USA. But president of Pakistan couldn't, do the pressure from USA. The situation in Pakistan has gotten much worse due to Afghanistan (Taliban, Pathan issues) and USA. It's Pakistan getting suffer now. Use your brain for God sake. Even Pakistan wasn't involved of Genocide as India was, care to remind you of Gujarat incident 02, huh?

So pak supported USA against terrorism. Why does that bother pakistans? Surely they should support this!

[MalikBrother]

Let's remind you of 1971' date=' Jagannath college, Dhaka, Bangladesh. Pakistani army massacring hundreds of students and raping almost all the girls and then throwing their body off the balcony.....several pits were later found with bodies full of bullet holes..... 3 million massacred..... Gujrat incident is blip on the radar compared to that...[/quote'] that was 1971 yaar :nervous: . If we talk about little improvement, then Pakistan has shown recently. Gujarat incident happened in 2002. It was termed as Genocide. That 1971 wasn't even close to Genocide

So pak supported USA against terrorism. Why does that bother pakistans? Surely they should support this!

Pakistan is doing fine to support USA against Terrorism. But it's Pakistan, is suffering at the end from both sides. :nervous:

[King Tendulkar]

So why do pakistan people hate USA cos they are fighting terrorism? Why do pakistan people hate your goverment for supprting USA against terrorism? Do pakistan people have sympathy for the taliban?

[Kartikey]

that was 1971 yaar :nervous: . If we talk about little improvement, then Pakistan has shown recently. Gujarat incident happened in 2002. It was termed as Genocide. That 1971 wasn't even close to Genocide Pakistan is doing fine to support USA against Terrorism. But it's Pakistan, is suffering at the end from both sides. :nervous:

Do u even know what actually happened in 71 or has ur government chosen to hide it from u?? And to let u know, what happened in 71 was actually planned and 3 million people were brutally murdered by your army. And also 10 million ran into India. It was clear genocide, if u choose to deny it, u r clearly ignorant.

[Texy]

that was 1971 yaar :nervous: . If we talk about little improvement, then Pakistan has shown recently. Gujarat incident happened in 2002. It was termed as Genocide. That 1971 wasn't even close to Genocide Pakistan is doing fine to support USA against Terrorism. But it's Pakistan, is suffering at the end from both sides. :nervous:

you are joking right? 3 million estimated killed and thousands raped and you call that "not even close to genocide" ? every book , every article, everything that I have ever read about this termed it "genocide of massive kind" ...."silent genocide of this century"

[MalikBrother]

Do u even know what actually happened in 71 or has ur government chosen to hide it from u?? And to let u know, what happened in 71 was actually planned and 3 million people were brutally murdered by your army. And also 10 million ran into India. It was clear genocide, if u choose to deny it, u r clearly ignorant.

Again. That was way too past. yaar

So why do pakistan people hate USA cos they are fighting terrorism? Why do pakistan people hate your goverment for supprting USA against terrorism? Do pakistan people have sympathy for the taliban?

Pakistan didn't has problem with Terrorism before 9/11. By that time, it was like Muslim brotherhood. We have regarded as Mujaahideen, sort of compliment word. They didn't harm us before. It was only after 9/11. Now, they feel we have betrayed them. Pakistan president may be responsible for not showing support to Mujaahideen, but according to USA ( A Terrorist which is not right word)....USA has ordered Pakistan President to clear the area of Balochistan where they were planning to pump the oil or whatever the case is. They were treated worse by Pakistan armies (They had no choice, but to abide the rule, as instructed by USA to President)...You can find clips in Youtube too. It never was Terrorism issues before, but it all started after 9/11. Now, Afghanistan along with Pakistani pathan back in Balochistan and Peshawar seriously hate us. They are bombing in several big cities where the majority of punjabi and sindhi people live, is threatening President not to suppport USA president or else what !. That's what we are getting now...If Pakistan support Terrorisms, might expect the worst outcome from USA, and if Pakistan support USA, then expect the much worst outcome than USA from Talibans. Now, Pakistan is stuck between both and had to choose one. Pakistan is getting suffer. Beside, the whole world know Pakistan is fighting for USA in Balochistan, in Peshawar and in Afghanistan. Why do you think Bush aided 1.9 Billion American Dollars to Pakistan president? :nervous:

[MalikBrother]

you are joking right? 3 million estimated killed and thousands raped and you call that "not even close to genocide" ? every book ' date=' every article, everything that I have ever read about this termed it "genocide of massive kind" ...."silent genocide of this century"[/quote'] Do you know what does Genocide mean? Those who were killed, were Muslim. Hardly qualify a Genocide. It was sad moment back in 1971, but i am regretted for whatever happened to those people. But that's past now. We have to move on. Right now, Pakistan relationship with Bangladesh is quite improving. No need to mention of 1971. But Gujarat incident 02 can be repeated anytime, because few politicial leaders who were involved in Gujarat incident 02, are still alive and walking out there free with no punishment. They are out there, preeching Hindu people to increase the hatred on Muslim people furthermore. Not looking good i say :nervous:

[King Tendulkar]

Brainwashed you are! Gujurat 2002 is all you can spout. I can give you a long list of islamic attrociites all over the world. You want to move on from 71, then why dont you move on from gujurat! Also you should think about what is life like for non muslims in pakistan and other islamic states. What do you feel about Kaffars?

[MalikBrother]

Brainwashed you are! Gujurat 2002 is all you can spout. I can give you a long list of islamic attrociites all over the world. You want to move on from 71, then why dont you move on from gujurat! Also you should think about what is life like for non muslims in pakistan and other islamic states. What do you feel about Kaffars?

Because Political leaders are still out there , preaching some people to hate Indian Muslim in spite of Gujarat incident 2002. That's problem. If he can't get arrested, then there's no doubt there could be another Gujarat incident 2002. If you guys say so, then i will forget about Gujarat Talking abou 1971? Isn't that too past? Shall we not talk about 1947 to make it much worse? come on...:nervous: Kaffars are being loved in Pakistan especially Kaffers in Bollywood movies. Sound enough? :--D