DomainK Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 In this very interesting analysis, Ananth Narayanan takes several things into consideration in ranking the top 30 batsmen in the history of the game. The analysis looks fair and intelligent as it considers everything there is to consider. Tendulkar tops the list as the greatest ODI batsman ever followed by the great Viv Richards at no2. Whats interesting is the name of Jatyasuriya at no3. I think Jaya deserves that spot. The very presence of Jaya at no3 shows how the parameters and the method of analysis are very efficient in finding out the good batsmen inspite of low averages and other weak statistics. To me, this is a fair ranking. 1.Ind Tendulkar S.R 2.Win Richards I.V.A 3.Slk Jayasuriya S.T 4.Aus Ponting R.T 5.Aus Gilchrist A.C 6.Win Lara B.C 7.Saf Kallis J.H 8.Pak Inzamam-ul-Haq 9.Aus Bevan M.G 10.Ind Ganguly S.C 11.Pak Saeed Anwar 12.Aus Waugh M.E 13.Aus Symonds A 14.Slk de Silva P.A 15.Win Haynes D.L 16.Saf Gibbs H.H 17.Ind Dravid R 18.Pak Mohammad Yousuf 19.Saf Kirsten G 20.Saf Klusener L 21.Aus Jones D.M 22.Aus Hayden M.L 23.Pak Javed Miandad 24.Saf Rhodes J.N 25.Eng Pietersen K.P 26.Ind Sehwag V 27.Ind Dhoni M.S 28.Ind Azharuddin M 29.Aus Waugh S.R 30.Saf Cronje W.J Read to find out his analysis.: http://blogs.cricinfo.com/itfigures/archives/2008/09/tendulkar_and_richards_swap_pl.php#more Link to comment
Tapioca Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Looks very arbitrary. Why is the number of runs given 20 and not at 25 (K) ? Why does SR have 25 points, not 20 or 30 ? And so on. You could do something with different factors and weightages and come up with a completely different table, and that would be no better or worse than this one. And of course, if SRT is at No.1 or 2, you can expect hundreds of replies. Link to comment
Chorazin Reto Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Dravid higher than Sehwag ? Jayasuriya at 3 ? Seems odd how some things pan out. Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Why are some important ppl like Sunil Gavaskar, Venkatesh Prasad, Harvinder Singh, Venkatapathy Raju, SS Das, not figuring in this list? Link to comment
SachDan Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 As for the first and second place,they were forgone conclusion...Sach is the all time best ODI player :two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
DomainK Posted September 2, 2008 Author Share Posted September 2, 2008 As for the first and second place' date='they were forgone conclusion...Sach is the all time best ODI player :two_thumbs_up:[/quote'] Yes. He definitely is.:two_thumbs_up: Link to comment
Dinx - the Jinx Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Hw cme there is no Kapil Dev? Link to comment
SachDan Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Hw cme there is no Kapil Dev? Bhai mere, this is the list of statistically great 30 ODI batsmen...Kapil would have definitely figured in the list of 30 best ODI players Link to comment
Lurker Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Another of the famous Indian "contribution" to the world thanks to the recent IT success. Dissecting cricket with Intel processors. In the list compiled Viv Richards has an adjusted strike rate of 24.60(out of possible 25) while Kapil Dev has 24.21. This when the actual SR of Viv was 90 and Kapil's 95. So after adjusting strike rates Kapil Dev falls behind Viv. Yeah sure I will buy that. Link to comment
bharat297 Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 No real suprises in this list ... It seems pretty obvious. As far as ODI batsman go ... for me ... its Sachin and Richards ... then daylight. Link to comment
Tapioca Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Another of the famous Indian "contribution" to the world thanks to the recent IT success. Dissecting cricket with Intel processors. In the list compiled Viv Richards has an adjusted strike rate of 24.60(out of possible 25) while Kapil Dev has 24.21. This when the actual SR of Viv was 90 and Kapil's 95. So after adjusting strike rates Kapil Dev falls behind Viv. Yeah sure I will buy that. That is very interesting. I suspect Richards get a bonus for starting three years before Kapil and also ending a few years early. It is not just the decade that matters. Greenidge started & ended his career at the same season as Richards and is scaled by +9.1% while Haynes who is almost an exact contemporary of Kapil has only 6.1. Link to comment
Tapioca Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 There are lot more of unexplainable stuff. Sandeep Patil is near the bottom of the list with 10.42, which unscaled, is a SR of 42. Patil's actual ODI SR is 82 according to Cricinfo. Link to comment
punjabi_khota Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Ganguly below Bevan ? Sure.... Link to comment
DadaRocks Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Where is Asain Bradman?? Link to comment
satishg Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Where is Asain Bradman?? in the top of the list in the number 1 position Link to comment
Chaos Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 in the top of the list in the number 1 position nailed him satish :--D Link to comment
Lurker Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Looks very arbitrary. Why is the number of runs given 20 and not at 25 (K) ? Why does SR have 25 points' date= not 20 or 30 ? And so on. You could do something with different factors and weightages and come up with a completely different table, and that would be no better or worse than this one. And of course, if SRT is at No.1 or 2, you can expect hundreds of replies. I beleive this is done to play around and come up with a methodology that will make sure the expected batsmen end up at the top. Can you imagine a ODI batsmen list with Sachin at number 9, Richards at 7 etc??? That would be immediately dismissed. And so the statisticians often "create" these ratings with an eye on what the end results should be, and not could be. Dean Jones at 21?? Miandad at 23?? Martin Crowe not even in top 30??? Is this guys nuts or what? All the three gents would be strong cases of all time greatest LOI team. Also the reason why someone like Jayasurya(I beleive) comes in at number 3 is thanks to his 40 plus MOMs..never mind the fact that many of these were won on his bowling prowess. Link to comment
ucilite Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 In this very interesting analysis, Ananth Narayanan takes several things into consideration in ranking the top 30 batsmen in the history of the game. The analysis looks fair and intelligent as it considers everything there is to consider. Tendulkar tops the list as the greatest ODI batsman ever followed by the great Viv Richards at no2. Whats interesting is the name of Jatyasuriya at no3. I think Jaya deserves that spot. The very presence of Jaya at no3 shows how the parameters and the method of analysis are very efficient in finding out the good batsmen inspite of low averages and other weak statistics. To me, this is a fair ranking. 1.Ind Tendulkar S.R 2.Win Richards I.V.A 3.Slk Jayasuriya S.T 4.Aus Ponting R.T 5.Aus Gilchrist A.C 6.Win Lara B.C 7.Saf Kallis J.H 8.Pak Inzamam-ul-Haq 9.Aus Bevan M.G 10.Ind Ganguly S.C 11.Pak Saeed Anwar 12.Aus Waugh M.E 13.Aus Symonds A 14.Slk de Silva P.A 15.Win Haynes D.L 16.Saf Gibbs H.H 17.Ind Dravid R 18.Pak Mohammad Yousuf 19.Saf Kirsten G 20.Saf Klusener L 21.Aus Jones D.M 22.Aus Hayden M.L 23.Pak Javed Miandad 24.Saf Rhodes J.N 25.Eng Pietersen K.P 26.Ind Sehwag V 27.Ind Dhoni M.S 28.Ind Azharuddin M 29.Aus Waugh S.R 30.Saf Cronje W.J Read to find out his analysis.: http://blogs.cricinfo.com/itfigures/archives/2008/09/tendulkar_and_richards_swap_pl.php#more now this list has AFRIDI at 31. YES, AFRIDI!!!!!!!!!!!!! Therefore, whatever methodology was used to derive this list, its completely flawed UNLESS you guys are willing to accept that AFRIDI indeed deserves the 31st place. :hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
MalikBrother Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Not related. That's not bad ranking. The question arises now that will Misbah ever cross on the list for about three years? Link to comment
ucilite Posted September 2, 2008 Share Posted September 2, 2008 Not related. That's not bad ranking. The question arises now that will Misbah ever cross on the list for about three years? my dear friend, don't be so hung up on misbah!!! this a garbage ranking......another waste of time...if you disagree, please prove to me then how Afridi can be higher than Yuvraj, Sangakara, Clarke.......and the list goes on........ Link to comment
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