70 feared dead in attack on Pak mosque

[EnterTheVoid]

Many arguments are put forth for the resolvement of the Kashmir issue I however feel that the suggestions put forth in the following video are most viable :D [ame=

- The Onion: Volatile India-Pakistan Standoff In 11,680th Day[/ame]

[King Tendulkar]

Nope- unlike others, I admit that these fundos are responsible. Why should I NOT talk about muslim brotherhood/sisterhood? Ffs, there is a distinction between Islam and terrorism ffs. These various areas do not want independence- but purely to blame is our unblinded support for USA, which is coming back to haunt us. My opinion on Kashmir is something you may disagree with, but I have my reasons for the opinion. Since where have I stated that RAW is responsible- I believe it is CIA/Mossad. I actually dnt believe that RAW plays a role- I have also said that whoever is responsible, we cannot and have shown will not deal with it. I have always come up with means to solve things, but the lack of people willing to discuss things with me without assuming things, makes things difficult!

All little crediblilty you had down the pan now! It was the yanks and the jews who did it:(( One minute you admit the idlamic fundos did it but then the mask slips and you claim the yanks/jews!!! Another question for you, who do you believe did 9/11? Do you also blame the jews again? Also it is tiring to hear muslims waffle endlessley about their muslim brothers and sisters. Us kaffirs clealry second class citizens to for example your brothers/sisters in Indonesia?

[EnterTheVoid]

So everytime something happens in Pakistan, it is immediately the fault of the CIA / RAW / Mossad Nexus? Have you stopped to think how poor baitullah mehsud feels ? Hopping from cave to cave, he goes to great pains to plan eloborate terrorist schemes only to be denied the credit he craves :D Poor fellow must be cursing the "external" forces. Paki jihadist's are too dumb / naive to carry out such atrocities so its always someone else, eh? Not a good advertisement for the local looney toones who have vowed to wage a jihad against the civilized world Come on yaar. Spare a thought for poor Mehsud. Give him the recognition he deserves.

[hassan_113]

Sree_India- it's quite simple that we have some idiots carrying out these attacks- and they are pathetic, but who is the driving force behind it? Both the people that do it and the people that provide the ammunition are to blame.....on one hand they say 'get rid of America from our soil' and on the other hand they kill their own-these noobs are all in cahoots- it makes me sick- just like a Mr OBL beforehand!! Pakistanis are at fault for this as are the Americans. When you have Pathans in your country and you support USA, this is what you are going to get. P.S. the dog who says 'I bark' - hardly anybody in Kashmir valley supports India vs the call of independence. They can try to fool us by having Abdullah as Chief Minister- speaks in one way in Srinagar, another way in Delhi...why does he spend only 15 days in Kashmir a year? He spends the rest in Delhi!! HAHA Most Kashmiris in the valley don't like Pakistan as they used to either- but this doesn't translate to an immiediate support for union with India...so how can it be part of the mainland?! You know even if Pakistani and Indian Kashmir wanted to go independent, I wouldn't mind! One gigantic half of my family is from the state of Jammu and Kashmir and so I have a right to have an opinion when my mother's side live in Kashmir. Kashmir is simply a black stain on India and its aspirations to be a superpower. Here is the map of this wonderful area of the world- probably most of you haven't ever seen it from your sofas eating samosas and watching Star News!

[King Tendulkar]

Give baluchistan independence! An American UN worker abducted more than two months ago has turned up unharmed alongside a road in western Pakistan with his hands and feet bound and pleading “Help me, help me”. John Solecki was discovered last night abandoned in a village 30 miles south of Quetta near the Afghan border after his captors called a local news agency to tell them where to look, officials said. At one point, the kidnappers had threatened to behead him. Mohammed Anwar, the owner of a restaurant alongside the main Quetta-Karachi highway, told the Associated Press that he found a bound Mr Solecki lying in the dirt near a wall. Mr Anwar said he heard a voice in the gloom saying "Help me, help me" in English. Related Links Gunmen kidnap foreign UN official in Pakistan US plan to launch drone raids deep into Pakistan Mr Solecki, who headed the UN refugee agency's operations in Quetta, made no public comment. Police and UN officials declined to discuss what led to his release. UN spokeswoman Jennifer Pagonis said Mr Solecki left the country on a special medical flight early this morning after spending the night in a military hospital in Quetta. “He seemed OK this morning,” Ms Pagonis said, adding that he was looking forward to being reunited with his family. She declined to offer further details. Rehman Malik, the Interior Minister, said Mr Solecki would fly to an airfield in Afghanistan and then continue on to the United States. Mr Malik said the UN worker was released after Asif Ali Zardari, the Pakistani President, formed a taskforce that worked with the top official in Baluchistan, where Quetta is the capital, to convince the kidnappers to free Mr Solecki. The release was a rare piece of good news amid intensifying violence that has raised international alarm over the nuclear-armed country's stability. Yesterday, a suicide bomber attacked a paramilitary base in the capital, killing eight. Mr Solecki's abduction and the killing of his driver on February 2 in Quetta raised concern that he was another victim in a spate of attacks on foreigners blamed on Islamist militants operating from strongholds along the Afghan frontier. A previously unknown group, the Baluchistan Liberation United Front, had claimed responsibility for the abduction, threatening to behead him and issuing a grainy video on February 13 of a blindfolded Mr Solecki pleading for help. But the group's name and demands indicated they were ethnic Baluch separatists who have been waging a long low-level insurgency in the impoverished but oil-rich southwest of Pakistan and have no record of taking or killing Western hostages. The kidnappers had demanded the release of hundreds of people from alleged detention by Pakistani security agencies. Ban Ki-moon, the UN Secretary-General, said he was grateful for the efforts to secure Mr Solecki's release, citing Mr Zardari and Afghan President Hamid Karzai. But Mr Ban, who was in Paris, also pleaded for the release of another UN official, Robert Fowler, missing in Niger since December. Kidnappers in December took Mr Fowler, a Canadian diplomat who serves as Ban's special envoy for Niger, an aide and their driver. The driver was released unharmed almost two weeks ago.

[hassan_113]

King_Tendulkar- like an Indian politician- full of hot air. Baluchistan and Kashmir- two totally different issues. So why does India have Gilgit and Mirpur as part of India on its part of the map then?! Who's been helping the Baluchi separatists then?! Kashmir always wanted to be away from India- FACT. Jammu and Ladakh can join India- fine.

[King Tendulkar]

King_Tendulkar- like an Indian politician- full of hot air. Baluchistan and Kashmir- two totally different issues. So why does India have Gilgit and Mirpur as part of India on its part of the map then?! Who's been helping the Baluchi separatists then?! Kashmir always wanted to be away from India- FACT. Jammu and Ladakh can join India- fine.

Fact Baluchistan wants independence. Give it to them! Why not give it to them? Why not give the Taliban independent state? Give them SWAT region and maybe areas near Afghan border. Its what they want!

[veeru_rocks]

King_Tendulkar- like an Indian politician- full of hot air. Baluchistan and Kashmir- two totally different issues. So why does India have Gilgit and Mirpur as part of India on its part of the map then?! Who's been helping the Baluchi separatists then?! Kashmir always wanted to be away from India- FACT. Jammu and Ladakh can join India- fine.

JammU and Kashmir's popular leader Shekh Abdullah used to humiliate Jinnah on every chance he got.. Jinnah used force to occupy kashmir and Jinnah's rapist tribal soldiers wreacked havoc in 1948 and Jinnah knew it very well that's why he and his pakistan never agreed to the termms of plebiscite which was Pakistani army vacates kashmir first..... Baluchistan too pakistan annexed forcibly much later in 1957 so baluchi have every right to protest.. get yourself educated little go read story of Khan of kalat

[veeru_rocks]

Now little bit about condition of people in indian kashmir and pakistani occupied kashmir.. http://www.outlookindia.com/full.asp?fodname=20061208&fname=seema&sid=1 "Kashmir: Present Situation and Future Prospects" is a 10-page nightmare for Pakistan and a near-complete vindication of India’s position. The report rejects demands for a plebiscite, calling them "wholly out of step", condemns the lack of democracy, justice and human rights in POK, the absence of Kashmiri representation in Pakistan National Assembly, calls Pakistani efforts to shut down terrorist camps on its territory half-hearted and clearly links demilitarisation on the Indian side to a reduction of terrorist violence. It condemns the "repugnant Hudood laws" and even mentions the persecution of homosexuals.

[hassan_113]

From an Indian source haha- u wally!! Sheikh Abdullah- popular?! Rigged elections, traitor to Kashmiris, corrupt...grandson follows in his footsteps- all of Kashmir knows about this farce. Pakistan nor India can give them massive say in running of country etc because it is a DISPUTED TERRITORY catch my drift?! India can hold these sham elections but the Kashmiris wana vote fort EVERYDAY issues because India won't let them decide their fate any day soon...but they have stated they DO NOT support union with India.

[Zap_Brannigan]

India can hold these sham elections but the Kashmiris wana vote fort EVERYDAY issues because India won't let them decide their fate any day soon...but they have stated they DO NOT support union with India.

Prove that or STFU and GTFO.

[pan_walla]

Hassan why the double standard? Give independance to parts of Pakistan first. Put your mouth where your money is before preaching to India. People from Pakistan giving advice on democracy :haha: Pakistan let me introduce you to my friend Mr Mirror. Like your map shows Pakistan is sitting on half of Kashmir so shut it. Shame on Pakistan for gifting such a big chunk to China.

[King Tendulkar]

Why don't pakistan let baluchistan people decide their own fate? Let them vote and decide if they want independence. If they do then carve out a chunk of pakistan land of baluchistan and give it to the new independant Baluchistan! The people of baluchistan will then be happy. Then after this let the people of SWAT and areas near afghan border decide if they want independence. As I believe they would, especially in SWAT as non taliban supporters have being ethnically cleansed and driven out, so am sure SWAT region would now side with an independeant Taliban state. Give the taliban a chunk of Pakistan as well, its what many in certain areas of pakistan want! As all the bombings in pakistan are through freedom fighters who want independence of the cruel pakistan state regime. These jihadis are martyrs!

[veeru_rocks]

From an Indian source haha- u wally!! Sheikh Abdullah- popular?! Rigged elections, traitor to Kashmiris, corrupt...grandson follows in his footsteps- all of Kashmir knows about this farce. Pakistan nor India can give them massive say in running of country etc because it is a DISPUTED TERRITORY catch my drift?! India can hold these sham elections but the Kashmiris wana vote fort EVERYDAY issues because India won't let them decide their fate any day soon...but they have stated they DO NOT support union with India.

SheikH abdullah have bene winning election there since ages.. he was Sher of Kahsmir even before Jinnah was anybody.. That report is of EU it has nothign to do with which source reported that.. Go ahead do your own google and find out how whole pakistani machinery was under deep stress after that report in EU parliament.. Disputed my *****.. disp[uted is pakistani part whose occupation has no locus standi.. Disputed is Baluchistan whose Khan fo kalat was forcibly driven out..

[riya]

Pakistanis problem is that they consider this ''war on terror '' as some obligation to US army .Army is silently or loudly supporting terrorists .They are not concerned about their own safety and existence .Sad part is that only a small percent may be 5% pakistanis acknowledge danger of terrorism within,the rest are blaming the outside world . Future doesn't look great for paksitan.The number of people who defend Taliban is astonishing .How can any one support those who ''bomb girls school and torture women '' is beyond me.

[veeru_rocks]

Pakistanis problem is that they consider this ''war on terror '' as some obligation to US army .Army is silently or loudly supporting terrorists .They are not concerned about their own safety and existence .Sad part is that only a small percent may be 5% pakistanis acknowledge danger of terrorism within' date='the rest are blaming the outside world . Future doesn't look great for paksitan.The number of people who defend Taliban is astonishing .How can any one support those who ''bomb girls school and torture women '' is beyond me.[/quote'] Talibans are following sunnah hence are above criticism

[Desi Cartman]

Sree_India- it's quite simple that we have some idiots carrying out these attacks- and they are pathetic, but who is the driving force behind it? Both the people that do it and the people that provide the ammunition are to blame.....on one hand they say 'get rid of America from our soil' and on the other hand they kill their own-these noobs are all in cahoots- it makes me sick- just like a Mr OBL beforehand!! Pakistanis are at fault for this as are the Americans. When you have Pathans in your country and you support USA, this is what you are going to get. P.S. the dog who says 'I bark' - hardly anybody in Kashmir valley supports India vs the call of independence. They can try to fool us by having Abdullah as Chief Minister- speaks in one way in Srinagar, another way in Delhi...why does he spend only 15 days in Kashmir a year? He spends the rest in Delhi!! HAHA Most Kashmiris in the valley don't like Pakistan as they used to either- but this doesn't translate to an immiediate support for union with India...so how can it be part of the mainland?! You know even if Pakistani and Indian Kashmir wanted to go independent, I wouldn't mind! One gigantic half of my family is from the state of Jammu and Kashmir and so I have a right to have an opinion when my mother's side live in Kashmir. Kashmir is simply a black stain on India and its aspirations to be a superpower. Here is the map of this wonderful area of the world- probably most of you haven't ever seen it from your sofas eating samosas and watching Star News!

Can you please explain why the rest of the occupied area is not under so called Azad Kashmir .. Why is NA not free .. why is it under paki control there is so much land .. just take get your traitors/ thankless morons to move to Azad Kashmir or Northern Area.. but guess ur pyara pak wouldn't agree

[Kohum]

From an Indian source haha- u wally!! Sheikh Abdullah- popular?! Rigged elections, traitor to Kashmiris, corrupt...grandson follows in his footsteps- all of Kashmir knows about this farce.

ooh - what happened to the Baluchistan elections? Same thing is it?

Pakistan nor India can give them massive say in running of country etc because it is a DISPUTED TERRITORY catch my drift?!

No. Please use your reading capability to fullest. then speak.

India can hold these sham elections but the Kashmiris wana vote fort EVERYDAY issues because India won't let them decide their fate any day soon...but they have stated they DO NOT support union with India.

hhehehe - you couldn't read Mr. Musharraf harping about Pakistan's support to the infiltrators but you vehemently state the above. Try to talk to people who are not brits with parents from Kashmir.

[hassan_113]

Can you please explain why the rest of the occupied area is not under so called Azad Kashmir .. Why is NA not free .. why is it under paki control there is so much land .. just take get your traitors/ thankless morons to move to Azad Kashmir or Northern Area.. but guess ur pyara pak wouldn't agree

Azad Kashmir= 'Kashmir of Pakistan' Indian Kashmir= 'Kashmir of India' Jammu and Ladakh= equivalent of Northern Areas- i.e. not Kashmir strictly but occupied by India or Pakistan Bangladesh was treated extremely badly by Pakistan before 1971 thus resulting in what Bangladesh wanted-creation of a new state. The Kashmiri valley is exactly the same- in this case despite countless attempts, they have shied away from indian union and will never accept it and will eventually secede from India and get their wishes. Just because India and Pakistan are fighting over Chenab river and water supplies, does not mean that the Kashmiri people are stupid enough to realise what the hell is going on between the two nations. With time, calls for indepedence in the valley have grown due to annoyance of militancy that occurred in the past and the torture by the Indian army. Sheikh Abdullah was a traitor to the Kashmiris and his useless corrupt family are only put into 'positions of power' - or rather non-power as they spend most their time in Delhi! Lol. Once the Sheikh realised his mistakes, he actually was put into jail no? Anyhow, the chances for peace according to Omar Abdullah were very high when Musharraf was in charge. Can somebody please tell me what agreement they were apparently close to making? Was it making the Kashmiri region free of troops and open to both Pakistan and India?

[King Tendulkar]

Hassan why dont you support a seperate baluchistan? Its what they want.