70 feared dead in attack on Pak mosque

[pan_walla]

Hassan I want my current home back in Srinagar (so do all my relatives) and I want compensation for the centuries of thugery me and my ancestors faced at the hands of muslims in Kashmir. I have not been able to visit Srinagar my birthplace for 20 years. My eyes are longing to see Srinagar again. The compansation I want is that J&K stay part of India forever. Time to despatch jihadis in an exodus to "AZAD" Kashmir. A refresher for you "Seven Excoduses of Kashmiri Pandits"- http://ikashmir.net/exodus/index.html

[hassan_113]

Pan_Walla- too late I'm afraid my friend. I'm sure they can find some space for you in Jammu if you want to go back up there. The Kashmir cause will continue to dog India as it attempts to become a superpower. The Kashmiri valley is full of feisty people who are fed up of India and Pakistan. Other than elections...one could make Jammu and Kashmir a place like the UK (England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland)- where Kashmiris could freely roam through the area. Whether that would work is a different story. I think you would get a lot of people taking advantage via Northern Areas-Ladakh and vice-versa and Azad Kashmir- Vale of Kashmir and vice-versa.

[cochise]

To reinforce the continuing impediment to resolving the confilict in Kashmir, we have: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35829&sectionid=4&issueid=100&Itemid=1

Army commandos take on Taliban in J&K Infiltrators from Pakistan are making one of the most organised and concerted bids since the Kargil war to cross the LoC and enter Jammu & Kashmir. The army is locked in encounters with heavily armed infiltrators at eight locations along the LoC. As many as 400 militants are reportedly waiting to cross over from Pakistan and target the Lok Sabha elections. Intense gunbattles are on in Uri, Baramulla, Kupwara, Lolab, Kangan, Wusan, Hafruda forests and Gurez. Sources said that 20 to 40 militants may have managed to sneak in. Heavy fighting in Gurez The army has air dropped para-commandos into the cordoned off forests of Gurez to flush out suspected Taliban militants. A fierce encounter is on. The army has cordoned off around 60 square kilometres of the Gurez forests adjoining the LoC at Hafruda. The terrorists have probably come in from several pockets in Pakistan Occupied Kashmir. Sources told Headlines Today that radio intercepts between two Lashkar-e-Toiba men talking to a third one led to the suspicion that these militants belong to the Taliban. The militants were helped by the Lashkar and the ISI to cross the LoC. Taliban or Jaish? J&K Democratic Liberation Front chairman Hashim Qureshi has claimed that the militants who crossed the LoC are either from the Jaish-e-Mohammad or the Lashkar. He said the possibility of infiltration by the Taliban, however, couldn't be ruled out in the future. Infiltration on the rise The CRPF has figures to show that infiltration from Pakistan has increased in the past two weeks. Since March 22, at least 22 militants have been gunned down by the army. Ten jawans and two army officers have been killed in the operation. In Kupwara, the army had earlier carried out a six-day offensive in March. According to the army, many of the militants were of Afghan origin. Infiltration pattern different this year Infiltration along the LoC always peaks as the summer approaches. But this time, the security forces have been taken aback by the sheer intensity of the bids. This year, infiltration attempts were made much before the snow in the mountain passes started to melt. Also, simultaneous infiltration bids were made in an attempt to engage the security forces along different fronts. While infiltration bids were usually made in small batches earlier, the militants are now trying to cross over in larger groups of 20 or 30.

The infiltration is being stepped up by Pakistan...

[veeru_rocks]

Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif were about to sign an agreement of final resolution Zardaari and Manmohan Singh again were about to sign an agrrement resolvign this issue.. Every time pooorki army did some drama Kargil and Mumbai respectively reason being these generals in pakistan justifiy their palatial house pointing towards festering kashmri problem.. No country in this wordl has defence budget 20% of GDP llike pakistan.> Pakis have and if you read Army inc a book recently published by a senior civil servanmt in pakistan you will find out how paki army has whole nation by its balls.. they have cement factory they have dairy product they have tooth paste they sit on the board of all publlic and private body.. Only thing they suck at is defending the border of pakistan because since 1947 they have only lost territory not gained an inch.... Any impartial audit of napaak army will expose their incomepetence and corruption but they justify it all by showing kashmir issue..

[King Tendulkar]

Pan_Walla- too late I'm afraid my friend. I'm sure they can find some space for you in Jammu if you want to go back up there. The Kashmir cause will continue to dog India as it attempts to become a superpower. The Kashmiri valley is full of feisty people who are fed up of India and Pakistan. Other than elections...one could make Jammu and Kashmir a place like the UK (England, Scotland, Wales, N.Ireland)- where Kashmiris could freely roam through the area. Whether that would work is a different story. I think you would get a lot of people taking advantage via Northern Areas-Ladakh and vice-versa and Azad Kashmir- Vale of Kashmir and vice-versa.

Find some space for him in Jammu!!!!!! Well I am sure those kashmiris who dont want to be part of India can be found space in Pakisatn then. Although form my experience Kashmiris dont go anyway near pak but have flooded places like dehli and goa!!! Ironic they cause all this aggro against the great satan India, then when its get a bit hot then migrate to elsewere in india!! They know Indias great hence they all stay in India. The Kashmiris are more then feisty, its nothing to boast about.

[veeru_rocks]

Find some space for him in Jammu!!!!!! Well I am sure those kashmiris who dont want to be part of India can be found space in Pakisatn then. Although form my experience Kashmiris dont go anyway near pak but have flooded places like dehli and goa!!! Ironic they cause all this aggro against the great satan India, then when its get a bit hot then migrate to elsewere in india!! They know Indias great hence they all stay in India. The Kashmiris are more then feisty, its nothing to boast about.

it's never about people of kashmir or muslims .. sample these (1) More than 200 thousand muslims of bihar origin are stuck in Bangaldesh who till this day call themselves pakistani but pakistanis want to have nothing to do wiht it (2)Then we all know what their muslim brothers of bangaldesh went through 3 million butchere.. They can reconcile with bangaldeshi hindus butchery but how about muslims (3)Carpet bombing in baluchistan no army has ever carpet bombed its own citizen except pakistan.. even in kashmir indian army has never resported to indiscriminate carpet bombing (4)Shia mosque every weel gets bombed and nobody cares (5) Palestinains can easily be accomodated in arab countries but again fact is even if you are born in arab country as palestinian you will never get citizenship there.. so it's all for real estate not for people Basically they talk about kashmiri s but what they mean is land of kashmri that's what they are interested in

[hassan_113]

Find some space for him in Jammu!!!!!! Well I am sure those kashmiris who dont want to be part of India can be found space in Pakisatn then. Although form my experience Kashmiris dont go anyway near pak but have flooded places like dehli and goa!!! Ironic they cause all this aggro against the great satan India, then when its get a bit hot then migrate to elsewere in india!! They know Indias great hence they all stay in India. The Kashmiris are more then feisty, its nothing to boast about.

I know many people from Srinagar who have fled to Pakistan.

[hassan_113]

Vajpayee and Nawaz Sharif were about to sign an agreement of final resolution Zardaari and Manmohan Singh again were about to sign an agrrement resolvign this issue.. Every time pooorki army did some drama Kargil and Mumbai respectively reason being these generals in pakistan justifiy their palatial house pointing towards festering kashmri problem.. No country in this wordl has defence budget 20% of GDP llike pakistan.> Pakis have and if you read Army inc a book recently published by a senior civil servanmt in pakistan you will find out how paki army has whole nation by its balls.. they have cement factory they have dairy product they have tooth paste they sit on the board of all publlic and private body.. Only thing they suck at is defending the border of pakistan because since 1947 they have only lost territory not gained an inch.... Any impartial audit of napaak army will expose their incomepetence and corruption but they justify it all by showing kashmir issue..

I'll hold my hands up (and have) and said Kargil was wrong considering agreement was nearly there. What were Singh and Mush proposing?

[veeru_rocks]

Exactly same thing which vajpayee-musharraf had planned.. (1) soft border (2) elected representative to sit in each other side's assembly (3) complete crackdown on terrorism by pakistan (4) open trade between two parts (5) Defence and froeign affairs to remain with respective govt in islambad and new delhi on rest of the issues complete sovereignty (6) Return of kashmiri pandits and retunr of their property which are as of today occupied by their muslim neighbours of yester-year Till today Nawaz Sharif question why is this fixation of indian media with architect of kargil musharraf

[veeru_rocks]

hasana bhia ye lo pakistan ka jahalat.. ak baap apne teen betiyon ka gala ghont diya kyunki usko beta nahin ho raha tha http://pakistanherald.com/prog_show.asp?chk=0&prog_id=902

[King Tendulkar]

I know many people from Srinagar who have fled to Pakistan.

Seems most have fled to other parts of India. Then whinge about India. Yet stay in India! Ironic!

[hassan_113]

Yes, many people who stayed in Srinagar now work in Bangalore and Cochin as I saw in India. They go home once a year to see family. They were really nice people. Trade is obviously low at home.

[cochise]

To reinforce the continuing impediment to resolving the confilict in Kashmir, we have: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=35829&sectionid=4&issueid=100&Itemid=1 The infiltration is being stepped up by Pakistan...

And while they are ratcheting up infiltration into Kashmir, the barbarians are knocking at the door: http://indiatoday.intoday.in/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=36198&sectionid=4&issueid=100&Itemid=1

Red alert in Islamabad as Taliban advances Headlines Today Islamabad, April 10, 2009 A red alert has been sounded in the Pakistan capital following reports that heavily-armed terrorists have entered Islamabad to carry out a major strike. The heightened threat perception has forced the authorities to shut down schools. US embassy in Islamabad too has been shut down for a day. The embassy has issued an urgent advisory asking all US citizens to stay indoors. Regular consular services, such as visa processing for Pakistani nationals, won't be available in the capital. But the embassy will still be available to provide emergency services to Americans. The consulates in Lahore, Karachi and Peshawar will remain open. Islamabad based offices of international donor organisations will also remain closed today. Plot to attack The plot was unearthed with the arrest of four suicide-attackers on Thursday evening. Police suspect there are more fidayeen on the prowl. The FIA and the Islamabad police has chalked out a joint action plan to hunt them down. A massive manhunt is on. This is what sources told the Pak daily The News about these attackers on the prowl * The fidayeen belong to the Baitullah Mehsud group * 29 suicide attackers have entered Islamabad, Rawalpindi and Lahore * 9 terrorists along with 20 Uzbeks left Waziristan in March to attack different Pak cities * Pakistan's Chief Justice Iftikhar Muhammad Chaudhry is high on their hit-list Buner falls Meanwhile, in their bid to takeover Islamabad, around 400 to 500 armed terrorists entered Buner's Bagra and Kalabatt areas, setting houses on fire. Buner district is northwest of Islamabad, barely 100 kms away. "We will take over Islamabad," Mullah Nazeer Ahmad, Taliban leader, had declared. This comes two days after clashes with a people's war group or 'lashkar' that was formed to stop the Taliban advance. While, Buner seems to have fallen to the Taliban, it went down fighting. Locals dug huge pits at the village borders to impede Taliban's entry. Women and children were sent off to safer locations. But Taliban terrosists killed tribal elders, the members of the local war group and also policemen in violent clashes. First it was Swat and now Buner. Terrorists now only need to cross one district - Haripur before they reach Islamabad. And PoK is very close to where all the action is-a threat that neighbouring India would certainly be worried over.

[cochise]

And instead of dealing with the Frankenstein they have created for themselves, what do you get? Yes...you've guessed it...denial, denial, denial and of course...blame India for everything...this one is truly unbelievable...when the Chief cop is making statements like this, you know the country is in serous trouble and over cloud cuckoo land: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Paks-latest-Pro-India-Afghans-behind-Lahore-attack/articleshow/4386144.cms

LAHORE: Pakistan on Friday said it has "credible evidence" of Indian involvement in the March 3 terror attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team here, but retracted within hours, saying "Pro-India Afghans" were behind the incident and the attack on a police training centre. "Pro-India Afghans have carried out both the attacks," Lahore police chief Pervaiz Rathore said. Law enforcement agencies have "sufficient" evidence in this regard which would soon be made public, he said. Earlier, speaking to reporters, Rathore had said with the help of other intelligence agencies there has been considerable progress in this case. "One thing is for sure that there is an Indian hand behind the attack. I must tell you that there is credible evidence of Indian involvement in the attack," he had said. Rathore said the "Pro-India Afghans" have carried out the attack on the visiting Sri Lankan cricket team and the brazen assault on the Manawan Police Academy near here. When his attention was drawn to Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud claiming responsibility for the Manawan attack on March 30, he said: "It is a known fact that Baitullah is paid for terrorism and he can do anything for money." This is the first time that a senior Pakistani official has publicly blamed India for the two attacks and named "pro-India Afghans" as the perpetrators to substantiate the claim. The latest comments by the police chief contradict interior ministry chief Rehman Malik who had on March 5 ruled out India's involvement in the attack on the Sri Lankan cricket team which killed eight people and injured 20 others, including six Sri Lankan cricketers. However, Lahore senior police official Mushtaq Ahmed supported Rathore's contention only in respect to the attack on the Sri Lankan team on March 3. Ahmed said the investigation into the attack on the police training centre was still underway and "nothing had been established as yet". Eight police recruits were killed in the attack on the training centre. Intelligence agencies have handed over the prime suspect in the attack on the police training centre to Lahore police for interrogation. The suspect, an Afghan national named Gul Khan alias Hijratullah, was arrested while trying to blow up a helicopter near the training centre. Khan has told investigators that all three attackers who blew themselves up within the training centre were Afghans. Ahmed also said that in the attack on the Sri Lankan team, the "ammunition and communication network is the basis of our claim that it was carried out with the help of a state agency.

When his attention was drawn to Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan chief Baitullah Mehsud claiming responsibility for the Manawan attack on March 30, he said: "It is a known fact that Baitullah is paid for terrorism and he can do anything for money."

Is this hero really trying to suggest what I think he is trying to suggest? That India is paying the talibunny Mehsud to carry out the talibanisation of Pakistan? I mean...how insane is that? :hysterical:

[suraj]

Pro-India Afghans:hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical::hysterical: Man they have completely lost it!!!!!

[cochise]

Maybe this is what they mean by "Pro-India Afghans...these guys are real Sherlocks man... http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/Circumcision-unreliable-to-identify-Indian-spies-in-Pak/articleshow/4387116.cms

ISLAMABAD: In the past, jubilant Pakistani authorities have announced that foreign (read Indian) agents were involved in explosions and attacks in the restive Swat region based on examination of the corpses of the killed attackers. But the “acid test” cops and officials used to determine whether any of the dead ones was Indian was to check whether the man had been circumcised. If not, they would summarily dub him Hindu and therefore an Indian agent. But as more such cases showed up, in places where there was not a ghost of a chance of any Indian involvement, doctors and officials began to worry about the methodology. It’s then that they stumbled on a little-known anthropological fact about Pashtun tribes in Waziristan, from where many of the Tehreek-e-Taliban or Pakistani Taliban come. It appears that many in the backward tribal areas of the country like Waziristan don’t undergo the mandatory circumcision that all Muslim males should undergo. The story took a rather comic turn when some of government’s own injured paramilitary soldiers, when examined, were found to be uncircumcised. This was especially true of wounded soldiers of the Frontier Constabulary from Waziristan, engaged in fighting Taliban militants. Kamran Khan, a legislator from Waziristan in Pakistan’s lower house of parliament, told the Times of India that many in the poor tribal areas fail to undergo circumcision because it is either not mandated in their tribal codes or because in many villages there are neither hospitals or even barbers, who perform most circumcisions in rural areas. ‘‘People are either circumcised in hospitals or barbers do the job. Neither we have hospitals in Waziristan nor institution of barbers,’’ Khan said, adding that poor people of Waziristan can’t afford to take their male children to other areas for circumcision.

[kumble_rocks]

I am afraid Hassan has been brain washed beyond hope. He does not realize that a free Kashmir means Taliban style sharia kashmir were women and minorities will be subjugated in the name of Islam. Sufism is dead in kashmir and it is a pity !

[suraj]

I am afraid Hassan has been brain washed beyond hope. He does not realize that a free Kashmir means Taliban style sharia kashmir were women and minorities will be subjugated in the name of Islam. Sufism is dead in kashmir and it is a pity !

Maybe thats what Hassan wants

[EnterTheVoid]

Pro Indian Afghans ? A perfect illustration of the logic and reasoning of an imbecile When someone else accepted responsibility for the attacks (i.e B Mehsud), you blame someone else (i.e. India) because you soil you kurta pyjama at the sight of a Taliban fighter Either way, looks like their Muslim brothers gave them a BIG :finger:

[hassan_113]

suraj- ur an idiot...i want a free kashmir- i.e. not what exists now plz, go back to reading textbooks about kashmir, a foreign land you know nothing about