Feed Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Steady hands were missed Two successive top-order failures shut the door on India. It wasn’t the only reason as fielding and bowling in the slog overs was also an issue in both the Super Eights matches. Ravi Shastri comments on India's batting woes. More... Link to comment
Feed Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 ‘Jadeja at No. 4 did not work’ Age Correspondent London June 15: Mahendra Singh Dhoni was a broken man after defending champions India made a mess of a chance on Sunday to stay alive in the Twenty20 World Cup. However, he felt it was a good learning curve for the team, which, he hoped would not repeat the mistakes. Excerpts from his post-match press conference: On the match: We are disappointed. I thought we stopped them at a decent score of 153. You are supposed to score that on a wicket like this especially when your intentions are to chase and you have strengthened your batting order. I don’t think we have any real practical excuse where we can say ‘this is what really happened.’ The performance was not really up to the mark. Hopefully it is a good learning lesson and we have learnt a lot out of this. If we don’t repeat the mistakes we will be a good side and will start performing again. On his inability to execute the big hits: I am not consistently clearing the park. I am here to admit that and I am working hard on it. I feel cricket is not only about hitting sixes because if you see there are quite a few players in our team who have to play different roles in T20 or the one-day format. Gautam Gambhir is doing the job at the top of the order, and I am supposed to do it in the late middle-order. That was the plan but it never worked throughout the tournament. On replacing Ojha with Jadeja: One of the reasons we wanted to chase was because we felt the wicket gets a bit better in the second innings. Under lights the ball comes on nicely and there is not much turn for the spinners. We gambled and instead of Pragyan we had Ravindra. Since we had that all-rounder, it filled in the space of Irfan Pathan and we went in for a specialist seamer in R.P. Singh, who did it for us again. I don’t think it was the change that affected us. On Jadeja batting before Yuvraj: If I knew Yuvraj would do well and do it for team I would have done it (sending him at No. 4). We were hoping that Jadeja plays a few overs and stabilises the innings and then we can go after the bowlers with the kind of batting we have. But it did not happen and it became difficult even for Yuvraj, and it was unfortunate the way he got out. One of those days it did not really work for us. I think the thinking was right because you need somebody who can manage the innings at No. 4. It is not that Yuvi can’t do that, but you always look at percentage cricket. If you had a decent partnership for 4-5 overs, and Yuvraj comes around at eight over mark, it’s the perfect platform for him. * More... Link to comment
Feed Posted June 15, 2009 Author Share Posted June 15, 2009 Dhoni cops blame Former India bowler Javagal Srinath feels captain Mahendra Singh Dhoni's handling of the media was a key factor in the side's early exit from the World Twenty20. More... Link to comment
King Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Collection of articles : Media backlash after India's failure Let me put together the dossier of media articles and the back lash the Indian team has received so far. Link to comment
Guest Hiten. Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 I doubt if any of these black lashes would be worth reading. But bring it on, we can at least have a good laugh at them. Link to comment
King Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 More than just reading we can prevent far too many articles being posted on the front page. Rather make it a collection of these in a single thread. Link to comment
riya Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Former players = Jealous sobs.:finger: Link to comment
zubinpepsi Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 I find this Hayden's quote interesting.. India were a bit unsettled with their batting line-up and a few players didn’t look comfortable in the middle. Mahendra Singh Dhoni is at his best when he attacks the bowling, and I was surprised to see him play a sheet anchor’s role. He did admit in the post-match press conference that he is struggling to clear the ropes, but a player of his talent and ability will surely be back in form. He does not deserve unwarranted criticism for the exit, as he is the top dog in the team, and the best man to lead India to further success. why is he surprised now??,, Dhoni has been playing like this even in the IPL... having played with Dhoni in the same team,wudnt Hayden have told this to dhoni during IPL, when he was nudging 1s n 2s?? Link to comment
King Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Kumble's views : It certainly was a game India should have won but these things happen. And you have to give credit to England, especially their bowlers. They peppered the Indians with short-pitched stuff and pegged them back. They say Indians don’t play the short ball well, let me assure you that no one does. With runs being the only aim, and ducking not being an option, the batsmen had to play their shots, leaving them vulnerable on a pitch where the ball didn’t come on quickly enough. Rohit Sharma’s dismissal was a classic example, he had finished his shot before the ball had fully arrived. Link to comment
Anakin Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Just glanced Moin Khan's name. I'm sure he must have some expert opinion again, bloody idiot. Link to comment
CricketGirl Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 dudes stop depressing us man! Link to comment
Feed Posted June 16, 2009 Author Share Posted June 16, 2009 Careless reporting part of journalism - Javagal Srinath Tuesday morning had an interesting piece of news on MS Dhoni. It read, “Javagal Srinath blames Dhoni’s media handling for T20 exit”. Normally, one would want to know where the quote came from but I knew I wouldn’t get the reporter or news agency’s name. Javagal Srinath comments. More... Careless reporting part of journalism By Javagal Srinath Tuesday morning had an interesting piece of news on MS Dhoni. It read, “Javagal Srinath blames Dhoni’s media handling for T20 exit”. Normally, one would want to know where the quote came from but I knew I wouldn’t get the reporter or news agency’s name. “Agency report” was all there was to it. Such items will never have proper coordinates for obvious credibility reasons. At the backdrop of India’s T20 exit, news of an ex- cricketer ridiculing Dhoni gains momentum. This is an old practice and will remain an integral part of journalism. At the press conference, Dhoni was honest and spoke not only about his batsmen’s inability to cope with short-pitched deliveries but also his below-par form. He even went further to say sorry for the defeat. Somehow, apologising for defeats is not a good practice. I’d understand if the team’s been doing badly for a while, but when it is on top, an odd defeat is part of the game. All of a sudden, Gary Kirsten has lots on his plate. The short-pitched problem has struck Indian batting again. I thought short-pitched deliveries were useful only in Test matches and had ceased to be effective in the shorter format. To my disbelief, it has come back to haunt Indian batsmen, and that too in the shortest format. The effectiveness of short-pitched balls is a combination of the wicket and the capability of a bowler. The England bowlers must have taken the cue from Fidel Edwards in the previous game. They realised that short-pitched stuff aimed at the Indian batsmen not only created dot balls but also opened up the possibility of taking wickets. They bowled more than three short balls in an over while playing well within the rules of the game. Indian batsmen, predominantly good on the front-foot, were found wanting when pushed back. I was amazed to see the diagram where more than 45% of the balls were pitched short in length. Suresh Raina’s problem with short-pitched stuff is similar to any other batsmen who cannot play spin with ease. The challenge for him is to sort out the issue without losing his core front-foot batting strengths. It was quite evident that short-pitched balls led to the defeat and not Dhoni’s love-hate relationship with the press. Link to comment
King Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 There you go, a casual remark would have been printed as quoted by Srinath by a journo. Common practice this I have heard often. "Sources", "Agency Report", "Undisclosed agencies/sources" are all part of this yellow journalism. I was surprised how Srinath singled out one player for the debacle, he's definitely not of that sort. Now we get to know. Link to comment
Params7 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Wow...I mean I know the press likes to spice things up a little but now putting words in Srinath's mouth? :/ If Dhoni wants to be a good Captain, he needs to learn to ignore the press/rabid fanbase and not let them affect his decisions on the ground. Link to comment
Watson87 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Thanks for this thread I always wanted to know other people's opinion This forum rocks paajis Link to comment
Watson87 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 dudes stop depressing us man! Cheer Up Behna!!! :(( [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpcJNBKpkrc]YouTube - ANDHAA KAANOON - Rote Rote hasana sikho - BHARATLOVER.COM[/ame] Link to comment
Params7 Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Angry fans burnt an effigy of India skipper Mahendra Singh Dhoni in his hometown of Ranchi following their early exit from the World Twenty20 in England. More... Man, I know the people on this forums just joke when they say they will burn effigies, but that is ***CKED up big time. People need to learn to take it easy. Dhoni lost this series as a Captain, he played bad but that doesn't mean that people from his own hometown should crucify Dhoni now. That is just plain screwed up. IMO, he shouldn't call that place his home anymore. These people can't call themselves his friends and family if they don't support him at a time when he most needs it. Link to comment
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