King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 As otherwise you end up with classless players like Nehra and Jadeja. We need to pick quailty players and preferably players who can be seen to develop in to good test players as well. Not players who happen to have some decent stats in IPl 20/20 lottery cricket Can't believe the selctors have picked Nehra. Just shows all lottery IPL perfomances should be discounted and instead we should look for genuine class and performances in first class cricket. As we end up with rubbish like Nehra and to some extent Jadeja! Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 Jadeja is hardly rubbish. He is hardly class either. He will never be a test players or good odi player. He is just one of those bits and pieces players, joe average who should not be in the team. Want genuine class players Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 I also said to some extent for Jadeja. Nehra is rubbish though! Link to comment
graphic23 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 He is hardly class either. He will never be a test players or good odi player. He is just one of those bits and pieces players, joe average who should not be in the team. Want genuine class players And you've judged this based on 2 ODIs, of which, in the first he got a half-century when no other player did - don't forget that it was his first exposure to Mendis and Murali in Sri Lanka. He's 20 years old. And you're using words like "never". Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 Jadeja is average. He was selected purley on IPL performances. He does not have the class and will never be test player. The point is cant just pick players based on lottery IPL performances. We must look at their first class performances to see if they required class for India. Otherwise we end up with crap like Nehra Link to comment
Shane Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Jadeja is average. He was selected purley on IPL performances. He does not have the class and will never be test player. The point is cant just pick players based on lottery IPL performances. We must look at their first class performances to see if they required class for India. Otherwise we end up with crap like Nehra dsr, do you know who was amongst the highest wicket takers in Ranji's Last Season ? http://stats.cricinfo.com/ranjisperleague2008/engine/records/bowling/most_wickets_career.html?id=4478;type=tournament Link to comment
graphic23 Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 And obviously you have not followed the domestic first class performances, where he was the highest wicket taker, and also scored some 800 runs, apart from the fact that he's a very good fielder. Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 He does not have the class. He is a bits and pieces player. Joe average. Balaji took loads of wickets as well, also Pathan!!!! They are rubbish as well. Got to look at how they play and wether they have technique and ability to do the business at international level. Instead someone like Jadeja as you all know was picked on his ILP 2 perfomances. He is average. What about Nehra? Can you not see my wider point on how good IPL stat perfomances have resulted in his selection, without seemingly looking at the quality of the player itself. He is abysmal bowling at 79 mph and yet gets selected?? Link to comment
Shane Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 He does not have the class. He is a bits and pieces player. Joe average. You are writing off someone at the age of 20, who has scored 750 runs and taken 42 wickets in his first Full Ranji Season? Link to comment
King Tendulkar Posted June 28, 2009 Author Share Posted June 28, 2009 You are writing off someone at the age of 20' date=' who has scored 750 runs and taken 42 wickets in his first Full Ranji Season?[/quote'] Fair enough he has a potential. And I am not writing him of then. Although his game does not impress me yet and I feel he needs A tour perfomances before I would select him ! He would not be in my squad and was picked for the WC with no prior India perfomances! Seems to me he was thrown in cos of IPL 2 perfomances. This thread to be frank was more about Nehra and his selction based on IPL perfomances. Selectors need to be very careful about hading out India caps based mainly on IPL performances. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Perhaps you should start following domestic cricket more - Jadeja was the highest wicket taker with 42 wickets AND one of the leading run scorers with 750 runs at an average of 70 in the Ranji season. Link to comment
donkey Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 You are writing off someone at the age of 20' date=' who has scored 750 runs and taken 42 wickets in his first Full Ranji Season?[/quote'] If u go by the stats alone, dhoni would be one of the classiest ODI player ever same with Bevan. Jadeja might be super handy like a duct tape but he nowhere near classy. Link to comment
Shane Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 If u go by the stats alone' date=' dhoni would be one of the classiest ODI player ever same with Bevan. Jadeja might be super handy like a duct tape but he nowhere near classy.[/quote'] sigh ... donkey Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 And Nehra? Every bowler got hammered at Sabina Park, specially the fast bowlers. He was the leading wicket taker in the match! Got rid of Gayle in the power play and in his first spell! Link to comment
The Outsider Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 If u go by the stats alone' date=' dhoni would be one of the classiest ODI player ever same with Bevan. Jadeja might be super handy like a duct tape but he nowhere near classy.[/quote'] Bevan was classy? Man, where do you guys come from? :hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
donkey Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 Bevan was classy? Man' date=' where do you guys come from? :hysterical::hysterical:[/quote'] your sarcasm detector might be faulty Link to comment
donkey Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 sigh ... donkey more intelligent than your last post Link to comment
Shane Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 more intelligent than your last post :adore: All Hail Ass Power Link to comment
diegovegaz Posted June 28, 2009 Share Posted June 28, 2009 no domestic tournament going on for the past few months, the ipl was the only basis of selection i am not justifying the selections, though Link to comment
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