PCB offers Arthur Pak coaching job

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The Pakistan Cricket Board has approached former South African coach Mickey Arthur for taking up a full-time coaching job with the national team. More... PCB offers Arthur Pak coaching job February 21, 2010 16:08 IST The Pakistan Cricket Board has approached former South African coach Mickey Arthur for taking up a full-time coaching job with the national team. Sources in the board said that Arthur has been contacted by the PCB but so far he has not responded. Arthur recently stepped down as the South African national coach after having selection issues with the South African Cricket Board and selectors. In his tenure, South Africa climbed up the rankings which raised his profile as an international coach. "Arthur's name was suggested by former Australian captain Greg Chappell who was initially approached with an offer but he turned it down politely because of his commitments with Cricket Australia and its academy," a source said. "Chappell is a good friend of Wasim Bari, the chief operating officer of the board and he had made some suggestions regarding best candidates to coach Pakistan team," the source added. Another source said that Pakistan was keen to reach an agreement with Arthur before the T20 World Cup. "Pakistan has some testing assignments coming up like the T20 World Cup, full tour to England, series against South Africa and New Zealand and then the 2011 World Cup over the next 12 months," the source said. He said the board had held initial talks with Arthur but there were still some issues to be sorted out. "Although Pakistan will be playing all of its home matches away from Pakistan because of the security situation but yet any foreign coach who accepts the offer from the PCB will have to remain in Lahore for periods of time for the coaching camps and training sessions," the source said. He said that former Test captain Intikhab Alam, who has been Pakistan's coach since November, 2008, was not named to go to Dubai for the two T20 internationals against England this week and has been told his tenure is over. "Intikhab's contract with the board runs until November this year but apparently he has been conveyed by the board officials that he will no longer be retained with the national team. He has been told to use his expertise at the national cricket academy or with junior teams," the source added. Pakistan has had foreign coaches in the past as well, with former England player Bob Woolmer being the most prominent among them. He coached Pakistan from 2004 to 2007 before his tragic death during the last World Cup in 2007.

[Gunner_Mania]

Looks like they are offering it to anybody and everybody who is free. Send offers to all available coaches, hoping somebody will accept it.

[achilles]

I'm sorry but Mickey isn't the right candidate. He is dominant and thats not the way we like our coach to be in the SC.

[Ram]

If the report is true, then it clearly shows PCB's desperation.. Its like they're randomly sounding out anyone and everyone they can reach out to, which is pathetic and unprofessional. If they're looking to hire foreign coaches, they should do what BCCI did (actively seek applications for the job, shortlist candidates from those who submitted, make them come to Pakistan for an interview and then finally select the coach.. )

[Rajan]

If the report is true, then it clearly shows PCB's desperation.. Its like they're randomly sounding out anyone and everyone they can reach out to, which is pathetic and unprofessional. If they're looking to hire foreign coaches, they should do what BCCI did (actively seek applications for the job, shortlist candidates from those who submitted, make them come to Pakistan for an interview and then finally select the coach.. )

so, u dont want Pak to get a coach, am i correct:haha:? PCB would have considered all that u said, but they knew it would be waste of time. They have some how contacted Arthur and possibly he may take up the offer too with some conditions and terms of his own. In a way they need a strong coach...

[siddhu]

I'm sorry but Mickey isn't the right candidate. He is dominant and thats not the way we like our coach to be in the SC.

Shhhh.... don't correct an enemy when he is making a mistake (Napolean Bonaparte)... That would mean more entertainment for us. :--D:--D

[azanian]

Pakistan are at war with Afghanistan and their own people in Waziristan. No same foreighn coach will go to Pakistan. They might as well offer the position to their Aloo

[Ram]

Either ways, I am not sure any foreign coach in his right mind would take up a Pakistani coaching assignment at this moment, unless of course he's desperate for the money. The country's in doldrums; Security is a nightmare; The cricket team's a disaster and cant win a thing; Infighting and groupism within the team is rife; At any moment, there are at least 4 ex captains and 2 or 3 people trying to dethrone the current skipper; The Board is a joke; There's active junta of ex-players who are constantly vying to get more lobbying power inside the cricketing establishment; People resign today, only to be reappointed tomorrow; Pakistan cricket has a notorious record, when it comes to handling foreign coaches... With all this in mind, it'll take an extremely adventurous (read stupid) mind, to take up the offer as the coach of the Pakistani cricket team.

[achilles]

Shhhh.... don't correct an enemy when he is making a mistake (Napolean Bonaparte)... That would mean more entertainment for us. :--D:--D

Sorry. My love for them finds an outlet very often :icflove: But point taken :hatsoff:

[siddhu]

Either ways, I am not sure any foreign coach in his right mind would take up a Pakistani coaching assignment at this moment, unless of course he's desperate for the money. The country's in doldrums; Security is a nightmare; The cricket team's a disaster and cant win a thing; Infighting and groupism within the team is rife; At any moment, there are at least 4 ex captains and 2 or 3 people trying to dethrone the current skipper; The Board is a joke; There's active junta of ex-players who are constantly vying to get more lobbying power inside the cricketing establishment; People resign today, only to be reappointed tomorrow; Pakistan cricket has a notorious record, when it comes to handling foreign coaches... With all this in mind, it'll take an extremely adventurous (read stupid), to take up the offer as the coach of the Pakistani cricket team.

absolutely spot on...

[Gunner_Mania]

Pakistan's next full-time coach is "99%" certain to be a local man, according to PCB chairman Ijaz Butt, though a tweaked coaching set-up may also look at incorporating inputs from foreign coaches as and when required. Waqar Younis, Butt said, is among the men the board is looking at. "The full-time coach of the Pakistan side will be 99% a Pakistani," Butt told Cricinfo. "We have two-three people in mind and Waqar is one of those that we have met and are looking at. A decision will be taken in the next couple of days on this." Butt's comments seem to all but shut the door on speculation over the last few weeks on a foreign coach being appointed to the national side, increasing the likelihood that Waqar may land the role. The board did approach Greg Chappell, though he turned down the offer. Mickey Arthur's name has also come up, though he has yet to be approached and it is believed would be keener on a short-term role. The post is not a particularly attractive one for foreign candidates, given the relative insecurity of any administration that makes the appointment. The security situation in the country will also be a factor, though neither of Pakistan's last two foreign coaches - Bob Woolmer or Geoff Lawson - had any problems staying in the country's cricket headquarters in Lahore. But the peculiar nature of Pakistan's future commitments now may lead to the board appointing foreign consultants as and when required. All of Pakistan's home commitments will be played abroad for the forseeable future, either in the UAE, or in specific arrangements with other countries: the 'home series' against New Zealand, for example, last year was played in New Zealand, while they will play a much-postponed 'home series' against Australia in England later this year. For these commitments Pakistan may look to get inputs from consultants. "We may hire foreign coaches for consultants positions, or have specific positions, depending on what and where our commitments are and what our needs are," Butt said. "But our full-time coach is most likely to be a local." In the summer's Tests against Australia and England in England, for instance, Arthur may yet be brought on board to play a consulting role of some kind. Pakistan's two foreign coaches in the last few years had a mixed time. Woolmer had some success with the side between 2004 and 2006, but by the time of his death during the World Cup a year later, the experiment had soured. Soon after Woolmer's demise, the board said they would hire a local coach, only to U-turn and plump for Geoff Lawson instead. He had a tougher time and though popular with the players, he was removed and replaced by Intikhab Alam, soon after the administrative change that saw Butt take over as chairman in 2008.

[achilles]

^ Their CEO, according to NDTV, has CONFIRMED that they will be hiring a Foreign coach. What the heck is happening? Everyone hums a different tune and sings a different song. :thrasher::megashock::poink:

[DomainK]

^ Their CEO' date=' according to NDTV, has [b']CONFIRMED that they will be hiring a Foreign coach. What the heck is happening? Everyone hums a different tune and sings a different song. :thrasher::megashock::poink:

Then they should try Afghanistan first.

[Ram]

I dont get it, what makes them think Waqar Younis is going to help turnaround the team's fortunes? On what basis did they choose him? What was the selection criteria? Did they even have a basic selection process or it was just a decision taken a couple of people behind closed doors? These guys are absolutely hopeless. They're down in the doldrums and this is probably a good chance to revamp their system and start from ground zero. But they keep recycling the same old failed characters and policies and expect a different result. Einstein once said 'Insanity is when you do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result'. This adage couldnt fit Pakistan cricket better. They have no vision, no real system. Every time the govt. falls, a new PCB head is appointed and he duly fires the current coach and makes it a priority to reverse the policy direction of his predecessor. This is what happens when you have stooges of the ruling party running the cricket board. Niether do they know anything about cricket, nor do they really care. In the end, the collateral damage is suffered by Pakistan cricket.

[DomainK]

Either ways, I am not sure any foreign coach in his right mind would take up a Pakistani coaching assignment at this moment, unless of course he's desperate for the money. The country's in doldrums; Security is a nightmare; The cricket team's a disaster and cant win a thing; Infighting and groupism within the team is rife; At any moment, there are at least 4 ex captains and 2 or 3 people trying to dethrone the current skipper; The Board is a joke; There's active junta of ex-players who are constantly vying to get more lobbying power inside the cricketing establishment; People resign today, only to be reappointed tomorrow; Pakistan cricket has a notorious record, when it comes to handling foreign coaches... With all this in mind, it'll take an extremely adventurous (read stupid) mind, to take up the offer as the coach of the Pakistani cricket team.

That is a very accurate description. Though it may still be an understatement.

[Gunner_Mania]

I dont get it, what makes them think Waqar Younis is going to help turnaround the team's fortunes? On what basis did they choose him? What was the selection criteria? Did they even have a basic selection process or it was just a decision taken a couple of people behind closed doors? These guys are absolutely hopeless. They're down in the doldrums and this is probably a good chance to revamp their system and start from ground zero. But they keep recycling the same old failed characters and policies and expect a different result. Einstein once said 'Insanity is when you do the same thing over and over again and expect a different result'. This adage couldnt fit Pakistan cricket better. They have no vision, no real system. Every time the govt. falls, a new PCB head is appointed and he duly fires the current coach and makes it a priority to reverse the policy direction of his predecessor. This is what happens when you have stooges of the ruling party running the cricket board. Niether do they know anything about cricket, nor do they really care. In the end, the collateral damage is suffered by Pakistan cricket.

Doesn't that fit in with your earlier theory? What are their options? Which foriegn coach is going to take the role? So they have to turn back to their 'legends'. Imran Khan, the sane ones, the egoistical ones can't be bothered. The Mushtaq Ahmeds' & Saqlain musthaq's have decided to peddle their wares elsewhere where there is shortage of spinners i.e countires like England & NZ. So what choice are they left with. just keep recycling whatever the have using a revolving door policy.

[Watson87]

Seriously I don't see the point in discussing anything at all about a minnow nation. They are a disgrace to Cricket, also their players are so over the top, I wonder why they are not banning them from playing cricket. I just wish we never discuss about this pathetic cricket team in the number 1 test team forum.