Sooda Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Is actually pretty good. I wasn't expecting much but was impressed...good film!!
audioman Posted January 17, 2007 Posted January 17, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Way too much gore for me. Didn't like it.
Zooter Posted January 18, 2007 Posted January 18, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Absolute worst piece of shyte I've seen in a long time. The only good thing was the cinematography which Mel Gibson is NOT responsible for. It was that other guy. As usual, Mel pretends to make a historical film, but actually makes the same song and dance over and over again: peaceful guy with a loving family get his family brutalized, he is turned into an animal, and single-handedly takes on the powers-that-be and wins in the end. Add to this storyline: gore. NOT AN OUNCE of history--and why would there be (?) ... that would take effort and study. :duh:
Sooda Posted January 18, 2007 Author Posted January 18, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Well im not sure why youd expect there to BE much history...they did who ships sailing in at the end- there you go the end of the Mayan empire at the hands of the Spaniards (?)..:) ANyways it was an action film. About the main guy and how he hits back at 'the powers that be' and did a great job of it I thought... There probably was too much gore though for sure. But again, that was the case in ancient Mayan whatsit- human sacrifices ...right?? bit of history there I tried sitting through rocky balboa gave up after 40 mins...will attempt getting back to it, the trailer made it look pretty good
Zooter Posted January 20, 2007 Posted January 20, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Well, There was very little history--and that's fine if that's what Mel wants. It's just that EVERY DAMN TIME, ... ... he markets his movies as "historical"-adventure (my words). For one civilization to rise, one must fall / Apocalypto is ancient Greek for 'civilizational' change blah, blah, blah. The discipline of history never showed through--it was just a gore-fest. I think people loved the cinematography and the look (I did too BTW), ... ... but that was due to this guy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Semler Check out the Wikipedia article on this movie: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypto#Historical_inaccuracies I loved Braveheart, but Mel seems to be a one-trick pony. He got it right in his first movie, and to me it seems the rest have been bad imitations of Braveheart with pretty much the exact same plot.
mad_max Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Mel Gibson direct the movie so he has a lot to do with the cinematograph. Do you know what cinematograph is really about?.....There were lots of historic accuracies as well. The language the makeup and the Mayan cultural rituals are all done to the best possible known facts. Oh and Wikepedia allows users to go and change article and submit their articles on the website so anybody can enter the site log in and write about Apacalypto so don't believe everything you read on Wikepedia. There are lots of angry Jews out there hating on Mel for wrong reasons. (No harm intended if you are of the Jewish Persuasion) The last scene of the movie is actually Homage to a Movie called Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Movie by Werner Herzog) the only other movie that tried their best to show the Mayan culture. I don't remember if there are any other movies on the Mayan culture apart from these two.
Zooter Posted January 26, 2007 Posted January 26, 2007 Re: Apocalypto... Mel Gibson direct the movie so he has a lot to do with the cinematograph. Do you know what cinematograph is really about?.....There were lots of historic accuracies as well. The language the makeup and the Mayan cultural rituals are all done to the best possible known facts. Oh and Wikepedia allows users to go and change article and submit their articles on the website so anybody can enter the site log in and write about Apacalypto so don't believe everything you read on Wikepedia. There are lots of angry Jews out there hating on Mel for wrong reasons. (No harm intended if you are of the Jewish Persuasion) The last scene of the movie is actually Homage to a Movie called Aguirre: The Wrath of God (Movie by Werner Herzog) the only other movie that tried their best to show the Mayan culture. I don't remember if there are any other movies on the Mayan culture apart from these two. If you like the movie that's fine--I'm just saying why I hated it. Don't take my word for it--most movie critics (even ones who liked the film) bascially agreed on the fact that Dean Semlar rescued Gibon on this one. And as for the historical inaccuracies--yeah, I like the use of the native Meso-American language (and cast), but Gibson did what he always does: completely ignore the macro issues. He tells a very narrow story. The best example of this was "The Patriot" which (to an absolute moron) would have left one thinking that Africans in America hated the British and wanted to be slaves of the Colonial whites. And that ALL colonial white people respected and accepted on equal footing the blacks in their new country. It was SO EGREGIOUS, I remember many people in the theatre (including me) huffing out loud. Just his depiction of the "house slave" and the white family was absolutely disgusting. He made it seem like they both loved each other and lived together in cooperation. Actually, it was the Brits who ended their part in the slave trade before the Americans. If I were black and and had the choice to live in a newly formed America or Britain at that time--it wouldn't even be close. And as for "Passion" ... ... no I'm not a Jew (lol) ... I'm from Baroda ... but their disdain was actually well founded. Their major concern was one that I shared: that the only type of Jew depicted in that movie was one who converted to Christianity or one who didn't, and therefore, HATED JESUS. There was no middle ground. The scene where Pilate asks the Jewish mob what to do with Jesus made it seem like Pilate was the innocent leader just succumbing to his subjects' wishes. An ABSOLUTE LIE. Jews make the point that you can be a good person, and a Jew, and not necessarily worship Jesus as God. That kind of normal Jew was not depicted. If you want a rock-em sock-em bloodfest--Gibson's your man (he seems to have a macabre obsession with extreme violence), but "historical" epic. Puhhlese. That's an insult to all the intelligent filmmakers out there like Scorsese, Tim Burton and so many others. Let me just add ... cause I feel bad ripping Gibson like this ... that I loved Braveheart.
Desi Cartman Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 yeah. or maybe Zohan :hmmmm2: me confused :nervous:
DomainK Posted February 14, 2009 Posted February 14, 2009 I dont care about facts/history/accuracy of data. I watched the movie as a work of fiction and loved it throughout. And I think its brilliantly directed.
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