Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 I can say a lot here, but that would be totally non-cricket. There is a thin line between stupidity and bravado and you seem to be treading the wrong side of it. Care to Explain the Driver and his Story to me? And explain to me what would have happened if he was driving the Indian Team Bus?
Serani Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 I can say a lot here, but that would be totally non-cricket. There is a thin line between stupidity and bravado and you seem to be treading the wrong side of it. Care to Explain the Driver and his Story to me? And explain to me what would have happened if he was driving the Indian Team Bus? Its pretty harsh on the driver to claim he would have happily let the Indian team die after he saved the Sri Lankan team.
Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani and Achilles There is a big difference between Afridi and This Driver. When that happened Afridi denied knwoing anything about the cousins terrorists activities. In this case the Driver Had his Brothers Picture with a Gun around his shoulder -- Glorifying HIM. That to me is a problem. If he just had his picture or mentioned it I wouldnt have had an issue, but in this case he was glorifying him, by having his picture. Yes even my brother can become a terrorist, BUT The moment I come to know about it -- I will nothing to do with him. Nothing. A picture of him in my living room will be a far cry and yes I will be ashamed that my brother was a terrorist. And that apples to my Kids too. Period. I am shocked you guys are justifying his actions !
Sachinism Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Some nation refusing to tour Pakistan isnt news anymore. If someone is actually brave enough to go there, then thats news. How ironical though - Cricketers from all over the world are either already in India, or rushing to get there after finishing their international commitments, while no one wouldnt get anywhere near Pakistan. Hope the Pakistanis are watching this and do some serious sole-searching. Soul searching? They'll probably approach Zaid Hamid for his theories on the situation and how to go about improving it
Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Its pretty harsh on the driver to claim he would have happily let the Indian team die after he saved the Sri Lankan team. More than likely he wouldn't have. But there is every chance because of the ill-feelings towards India and his LOVE for his brother (even after knowing that he was a Terrorist) would have led him to inform the terrorists of the bus route etc etc.
Serani Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani and Achilles There is a big difference between Afridi and This Driver. When that happened Afridi denied knwoing anything about the cousins terrorists activities. In this case the Driver Had his Brothers Picture with a Gun around his shoulder -- Glorifying HIM. That to me is a problem. If he just had his picture or mentioned it I wouldnt have had an issue, but in this case he was glorifying him, by having his picture. Yes even my brother can become a terrorist, BUT The moment I come to know about it -- I will nothing to do with him. Nothing. A picture of him in my living room will be a far cry and yes I will be ashamed that my brother was a terrorist. And that apples to my Kids too. Period. I am shocked you guys are justifying his actions ! Justifying whose actions? The driver or his terrorist brother? Obviously you cant justify a terrorist but I cant see the driver doing anything wrong other than saving the life of the SL team.
DomainK Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 After what happened to the SL team, no team would or should play in Pakistan till the situation is stabilized for a few good years.
Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani: Justify the drivers actions. Forget what he did to the Sri Lankan team. Clearly this Driver was Glrofying his Brother as a Terrorist. I am sure he was (and probably still is) bitter about the fact that his brother got killed by Indians and there is every chance he might be looking to take revenge.
Serani Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Meh, this discussion is going nowhere but its hard to say the driver is a terrorist sympathiser just because of the picture.
achilles Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani and Achilles There is a big difference between Afridi and This Driver. When that happened Afridi denied knwoing anything about the cousins terrorists activities. In this case the Driver Had his Brothers Picture with a Gun around his shoulder -- Glorifying HIM. That to me is a problem. If he just had his picture or mentioned it I wouldnt have had an issue, but in this case he was glorifying him, by having his picture. Yes even my brother can become a terrorist, BUT The moment I come to know about it -- I will nothing to do with him. Nothing. A picture of him in my living room will be a far cry and yes I will be ashamed that my brother was a terrorist. And that apples to my Kids too. Period. I am shocked you guys are justifying his actions ! Thats a very valid problem. Maybe the media must be trying to score some TRPs. But if the driver actually said that, he's a tool. But yes, he's like 1 person in a population of crores. I don't deny terrorists are an integral part of that country, I just say that there is more to Pakistan and Pakistani people than terrorism. All of us are just the same, except that maybe they are a bit more screwed than us.
Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani: Let me ask you point blank -- If you had brother who got killed involved in Terrorist Activities -- Would you have his picture in your living room -- with a gun around his shoulder and words like "He is a Martyr" underneath? -- YES or NO.
Serani Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Serani: Let me ask you point blank -- If you had brother who got killed involved in Terrorist Activities -- Would you have his picture in your living room -- with a gun around his shoulder and words like "He is a Martyr" underneath? -- YES or NO. I cant really compare, im British, we dont have terrorists running round everywhere like in Pakistan.
Mamu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 Thats a very valid problem. Maybe the media must be trying to score some TRPs. But if the driver actually said that' date=' he's a tool. But yes, he's like 1 person in a population of crores. I don't deny terrorists are an integral part of that country, I just say that there is more to Pakistan and Pakistani people than terrorism. All of us are just the same, except that maybe they are a bit more screwed than us.[/quote'] I am not sure why you keep saying Media is trying to score TRPs. This incident if I am not wrong happened to a British Media Outlet (if I recall correctly it is BBC) If it was JUST ONE person outof a crore, I would nt have had any issues and most importantly their nation wouldnt be in such a shyte hole. You damn well know itis not ONE person. Going back to the original point of discussion -- a lot of their current army/police personnel are linked with or are sympathetic towards Radicals/Terrorists making them more dangerous and UN-TrustWorthy. I am not able to find the link right now but it was reported in NYT (or some other major US News Papers) that 20% of their CURRENT (Not Retired) army personnel are sympathetic towards the radicals. That is a huge percentage my friend. To me that is very very dangerous. For whatever reason you seem to be underestimating this problem and I have no idea why.
Pakistan-India Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 the title of this thread couldve been pakistan and SA to play in UAE. we all know they are not going to tour.
bhanu Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 its ok everybody has there time...pakistan just having a bumpy ride as time goes so will the problems...
Arkem8 Posted April 2, 2010 Posted April 2, 2010 its ok everybody has there time...pakistan just having a bumpy ride as time goes so will the problems... LOL That is exactly what they said back in 71' too.:hatsoff:
azanian Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 So they can tour Zimbabwe when the world condemns them' date=' but they can't tour Pakistan?[/quote'] Zimbabwe is not a security risk. No foreigners have been killed in Zimbabwe since black rule. I work in Zimbabwe and Zimbabwe is much more safe than South Africa and in fact it's safer than India. Pakistan has no law and order. It's a killing field with crazy Imams, mullahs, politicians , suicide bombers and lunatic each wanting to kill someone. Sunni massacracring Shia's. Personally I think that Pakistan should be banned from International cricket
MUMBAISKIPPER Posted April 3, 2010 Posted April 3, 2010 Shameless PCB continues to invite other countries to play cricket in Terroristan By the way,good decision by Saffies
Watson87 Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 Well look at this if Smith scores a doouble century he would be shot twice, remember samaraweera got shot for scoring a century, you can't win against Pakistan when they play cricket with guns
Banned from PP Posted April 4, 2010 Posted April 4, 2010 PCB never invited them. Some very childish lies from "rediff.com" .. but then again when the public demands anti-pak propaganda I guess they have to deliver it ?
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