DesiChap Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Has Agarkar failed Indian cricket, or has Indian cricket failed him? Something's got to give Anand Vasu December 5, 2006 Ajit Agarkar: 174 ODIs, 263 wickets, average of 27.44, economy rate of 5.06 Why do we love to hate Ajit Agarkar? If you're serious about Indian cricket this is a question you must ask yourself before it is too late - for him. He's Bombay Duck, for his run of noughts against Australia home and away. Television commentators who are looking for a line to fill the time say, "he bowls a four ball every over." What should we believe? To a cricket writer statistics are like an internet connection - when you need it, you'll do anything to get it; the rest of the time it's just something you use for fun. But without malice, without making a decision, let's look at what Agarkar has achieved as a bowler in limited-overs cricket so far. In 174 matches, he has picked up 263 wickets at 27.44, at an economy rate of 5.06, which is more than acceptable in these days where 300 isn't a safe score in the sub-continent. Compare that with some other Indian fast bowlers. Agarkar's most recent contemporary, a man who has been accorded far more respect, Javagal Srinath, played 229 matches for 315 wickets at 28.08, at an economy rate of 4.44. Less runs per wicket, but a wicket every 37.8 balls to Agarkar's 32.5. Then there's the king of them all, Kapil Dev, who picked up 253 wickets from 225 matches at an economy rate of 3.71 - well in keeping with the times when 250 was a safe score - but a strike rate of a wicket every 44.2 balls. Agarkar has four wickets or more in an innings more than any bowler in Indian one-day cricket history, forget just fast bowlers, Anil Kumble included. If you kick it down one notch and bring in Venkatesh Prasad, Manoj Prabhakar and the currently active Zaheer Khan, it gets better. Prasad played only 13 matches less than Agarkar but fell short by 67 wickets. Prabhakar only just got past 150 wickets. Zaheer is the only one who has played in a similar era, and he has 150 wickets at 29.11, from 107 matches, with a strike rate of 35.3, still behind Agarkar. If he bowls so many loose balls and is so inconsistent, how can the combination of Agarkar's bowling average, economy rate and strike rate be better than anyone else who has bowled quick in Indian cricket? It's an enigma, but don't tell Ajit that, because he hates that word more than anything else. It was never Agarkar's fault that he was projected as an allrounder. He batted up the order for his club side, and made hundreds - today he may be wishing he didn't - for his bowling is being discredited on the basis that he should have been an allrounder. 'If he bowls so many loose balls and is so inconsistent, how can the combination of Agarkar's bowling average, economy rate and strike rate be better than anyone else who has bowled quick in Indian cricket?' Recently I was on a television program, and for suggesting S Badrinath should have found a place in the Indian Test team because he scored 636 runs at 79.50 in the last Ranji season, and averaged more than 50 in this year's Duleep Trophy, and began this year's Ranji campaign with 136, I was castigated for being parochial and supporting a Tamil Nadu cricketer, being from the same state myself. It was, of course, rubbish. But no more than the fact that writing in defence of Agarkar makes you a Bambaiyya. But, if honest self-assessment was the key, then you would talk less of his boundary balls as how he has bowled in the last few ODI series. In West Indies, he was head and shoulders over the next Indian pacer, taking nine wickets at just over 18 from five games as opposed to Irfan Pathan's six wickets at a shade under 30. In the next series, the DLF Cup in Malaysia, he took only one wicket less than Munaf Patel, who ended up on top of the charts. But in the Champions Trophy, Agarkar only played two of three games, and thought he wasn't top of the pops, he didn't disgrace himself. And now in South Africa, he's sitting on the bottom of the pile. He got to 50 ODI wickets faster than anyone in the world, beating one DK Lillee at the post. The question that must be asked is whether Agarkar has failed Indian cricket, or whether Indian cricket has failed Agarkar. Therein the enigma is laid to rest.
gator Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa a topic tht we have chewed and spit several times on this board... he doesnt get the credit he deserves is cos of his unpredictability in the past.... a batsman averaging 50 can have variance cos effectively there are 11 players who can bat... variance means, he can score 100 and a 0.... but a bowler cannot have too much variance.... in the sense, he cant average 10 in one match, and 60 in another..... it creates problems cos there are only 4 bowlers usually in the indian team...
Lurker Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa Agarkar is one of those typical Indians that shall play a bucket full of games, cost their team many a matches and still have some experts, fans, and above all perhaps themselves lament as to "how he did not play more?". Of the 171 matches Agarkar has bowled in he has given runs at more than 5 an over in over half of them(87 ODI). Of the 171 games played he has given more than 6 runs an over a whopping 62 times. As an Indian cricket fan I am no fan of a bowler who bleeds 60 odd runs in 10 overs. It doesnt matter if he takes 3-4 wickets and keeps his strike rate down but economy rate up.
kabira Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa >As an Indian cricket fan I am no fan of a bowler who bleeds 60 odd runs in 10 overs. It doesnt matter if he takes 3-4 wickets and keeps his strike rate down but economy rate up. and how many times has he set up game for us..by taking early wickets.. IIRC he and Sachin were two main reason of our success in ODI in 98 season...We won 3-4 tournaments.. Only problme I have with him is, with more experience you get better..but Aggy is facking same...he champions trophy last over..balls long hope..we could have won that game and reached finals...
Lurker Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa Kabira. 98 is about a decade or so back. If I am not mistaken Agarkar made his debut around 97-98. In his first few games he was really good and an automatic choice in Indian team. Wasnt he like the fastest, or one of the fastest, to get to first 50 and then 100 wickets? But that was then. Ever since then his strike rate has come down, his economy rate has gone up.
kabira Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa >But that was then. Ever since then his strike rate has come down, his economy rate has gone up Lurkerbhai, you are right...his SR has gone down..but ER is facking same... I feel he is suited for certain type of surfaces...he likes rough subcontinent pitches..thats where he has been success and also Australian pitches.. He struggles in England and other places... He should always be there when we play at home...
yoda Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa Agarkar survives cause others are worse. If we had produced half decent fast bowlers, Aggy would have been left no choice but to become an ear model. He usually takes wickets early and gives runs late. As an added bonus he might give runs early as well. Salil summed up Aggy's spells nicely in one of his threads a month or so ago.
Inside_edge Posted December 5, 2006 Posted December 5, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa Agarkar survives cause others are worse. If we had produced half decent fast bowlers, Aggy would have been left no choice but to become an ear model. He usually takes wickets early and gives runs late. As an added bonus he might give runs early as well. ha ha ha.... when he last injured his palms some1 said he can use one of those 'elephant ears' to hold the bat. Only Amir khan can challenge aural-kar in that aspect. Back to topic its again the same 'best among worst' criteria that has seen so many mediocres with Indian cap.
MundaPakistani Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa He is India's version of M Sami.
King Posted December 6, 2006 Posted December 6, 2006 Re: Agarkar failed Indian cricket or vice versa Can some tell the original writer cricket is not just about ODIs? The title "Has Agarkar failed Indian cricket, or has Indian cricket failed him" is just out of context if you are only referring to ODI performance. I think the comparison of Srinath, Kapil and the rest are just not justified. Test cricket is accorded higher standard than a ODI and Srinath, Kapil et al have been truly excellent in both kinds :shrug:
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