What do you hate about Cricket ?

[Guest Shivani]

I don't know whats the scene in the global level, but in India, channels do cover FC matches Neo Cricket and Neo sports covered NKP Salve Challenger Cup, the Best of Ind v Rest of Ind match, duleep trophy, ranjis, deodhar , vijay hazare one dayer (murli vijay's 103 :woot: ) corporate cup, and even Maharasthra Premiere League And top players do play for their states when they do not have intl commitments.. Dada played fr Bengal in vijay hazare Dravid played fr Karnataka .. zak plays mumbai .. what is upsetting is the selection process .. how can they ignore players like cheteshwar pujara, rahane, dhawal kulkarni, ambati rayudu, shikhar dhawan ? what did they just do with players like dhawal kulkarni, sudeep tyagi, abhishek nayar, sourabh tiwary etc ? pick them for a series, make them warm the bench, show them how the dressing room looks and then throw them out of the squad :headshake: Very depressing! This is some thing that I dont like abt Indian Cricket ..

[Herculus]

Also, the IPL owners who have shown no compromise in reducing the number of games out of fear of financial losses. 96 games is completely untennable. Its not as if they are welcome, they are an unwanted distraction. You'd go to a cricket match to watch, errr, .... a cricket match (:idea:) not some singing, dancing theatrics. The current number of matches in the IPL (54?), I feel is too much. I wonder how anyone can stomach 90 odd matches next year.

you are absolutely RT it was better if IPL ran for 6 months matches only on Sat and Sun wt do u think ??

[Herculus]

I don't know whats the scene in the global level, but in India, channels do cover FC matches Neo Cricket and Neo sports covered NKP Salve Challenger Cup, the Best of Ind v Rest of Ind match, duleep trophy, ranjis, deodhar , vijay hazare one dayer (murli vijay's 103 :woot: ) corporate cup, and even Maharasthra Premiere League And top players do play for their states when they do not have intl commitments.. Dada played fr Bengal in vijay hazare Dravid played fr Karnataka .. zak plays mumbai .. what is upsetting is the selection process .. how can they ignore players like cheteshwar pujara, rahane, dhawal kulkarni, ambati rayudu, shikhar dhawan ? what did they just do with players like dhawal kulkarni, sudeep tyagi, abhishek nayar, sourabh tiwary etc ? pick them for a series, make them warm the bench, show them how the dressing room looks and then throw them out of the squad :headshake: Very depressing! This is some thing that I dont like abt Indian Cricket ..

matches are shown all right but they are not properly marketed or popularised no one even knows the name of all the players of a team

[Herculus]

Decline in the number of sporting wickets worldwide.

wickets are the most complicated thing in cricket

[Herculus]

deodhar trophy revamp anyone??

[Patriot_Nikhil]

I hate that the players of lesser nations does not even get a full time contract whereas the annual income of Dhoni is around Rs 50 crores. Anyone wanna discuss this ?

I strongly disagree with this. I dont believe in a communist regime where the amount a player gets is restricted just because another player gets less. Dhoni is good enough, he is successful, he can earn how much ever he can. I have absolutely no problems with that. Things I dislike (hate is a strong word here): 1. Decline of interest in FC matches in India. 2. Media's obsession with cricketers' private lives and the coverage it gets.

[Herculus]

The players of Canada doesnt have even a full time contract they have other jobs so they cant concentrate on cricket fully while dhoni signs 210cr deal.WTF is this ?? How can a nation compete like this.

[Patriot_Nikhil]

The players of Canada doesnt have even a full time contract they have other jobs so they cant concentrate on cricket fully while dhoni signs 210cr deal.WTF is this ?? How can a nation compete like this.

So?! That is the same for ppl all over the world in every profession. A software developer in India earns $477 a month. The same job earns him $5000 a month in US. At least in this case, Dhoni is way more talented than Tom, Dick and Harry from Canada...

[Herculus]

I fully agree that Dhoni deserves it. But how can the minnows compete without full timers. One is too rich another too poor. They should get 20% atleast.

[Patriot_Nikhil]

I fully agree that Dhoni deserves it. But how can the minnows compete without full timers. One is too rich another too poor.

Well, India as a country and BCCI were poor once too. Even with figures adjusted for inflation, Gavaskar probably made 30% or less as Dhoni. How did we come to this state now?! Canada (or any other such nation for example) can ask themselves that... Btw, how do you propose to straighten this?! take from Dhoni and give to John Davison? Wealth redistribution?!

[Herculus]

Not really but 20% of the money that the BCCI generates from IPL. One IPL team $250 million(avg)*10

[Patriot_Nikhil]

Not really but 20% of the money that the BCCI generates from IPL. One IPL team $250 million(avg)*10

Why in the world should BCCI "donate" money to other cricket nations?! By the same standard, PCB is in financial mess too. So BCCI must "donate" to them too so that the government run PCB can use the money for nefarious activities?! BCCI is no trust fund, its a for-profit business organization. It is the duty of ICC to develop cricket, its their job! Its ridiculous to even consider that while some franchisee owners are taking a loss, BCCI pays the other national cricketing boards!!! :omg:

[Herculus]

Nop they should give it as a loan. BCCI & India will get more recognition if more countries play globally. It will be good for kriki.

[Patriot_Nikhil]

Nop they should give it as a loan.

No, bcos God knows when they will able to pay BCCI back and hence it makes terrible business sense...

BCCI & India will get more recognition if more countries play globally. It will be good for kriki.

Again, whats good for cricket is ICC's job, not BCCI's...

[Jadoo]

I would not bother Patriot, Herculus is under the perception that BCCI stands for Broke Cricketers Chanda Institution.

[Patriot_Nikhil]

I would not bother Patriot' date=' Herculus is under the perception that BCCI stands for Broke Cricketers Chanda Institution.[/quote'] Seems like it. Why hate Dhoni for making more money than a Canadian cricketer?! He is doing it because he managed to outshine nearly 1.2 billion fellow Indians... I'd say thats pretty darn impressive and sets a good trend. Work hard, become successful, reap the rewards!

[SJS50]

The other big issue in recent years is that Twenty20 and IPL in particular have appealed to a lower common denominator, a type of fan who normally would not have either the patience, understanding or intelligence to follow and appreciate the other formats of the game. This may have expanded the number of fans in general, but it continues to dumb down the game (particularly with things like IPL increasingly focusing on crude slogging, commercials and crassness like DLF maximums as Manny had commented on). The focus shifts away from the game, you get more and more folks from Bollywood and other media taking more relevant roles, and meanwhile older, more knowledgeable fans begin to drift elsewhere (look even here, where people like BossBhai and Dhondy have spent less time following the game than earlier) while you get a rush of fans coming in to lap up the fireworks, cheerleaders and DLFs with about 20 brain cells between their collective heads. When you look at what's happened because of IPL, it's clear the fan base has increased - but probably the overall IQ of these fans hasn't changed too much. Heck, you only need to look on the board here to see signs of how much lower the average cricket fan's intellect and understanding has become, with keyboard warriors who treat an innings in a test as a single match, who can think of 20 ways to 'jinx' a batsman from reaching a milestone or take shots at Pakistan but wouldn't know mid off from square leg and the ways top players like Dravid and Laxman so often get marginalized and frequently insulted for their "slow" and orthodox batting. But we have hundreds more fans now who'll worship Yuvraj on both knees because he can hit six sixes and is "cho chweet". Not surprisingly with this shift towards a lower common denominator, standards of journalism and coverage on the game have similarly plummeted - 15 years back you had the likes of Roebuck, Bhogle, Guha, Selvey, Frith and co. whose commentaries (in print or by mouth) on the game would be intelligent and informative for anyone. Before that of course you had other great folk covering the game; the Fingletons, Arlotts, Ray Robinsons, etc. These days we get the usual regurgitative and paint by numbers crap from most journos on places like CI - and this is considered good, because of the alternatives of the 15 second soundbites on which club XXX was seen in, and how chweet a couple Dhoni and his wife really are.

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[SJS50]

Sums up the state of affairs. Another thing is, and this is related to the people you generally see on these forums - with the advent of statsguru and other cricket stats websites, it has become very easy to crunch numbers and falsify knowledge about an event. people may never have watched someone play, but a quick look at the stats and the preconceived notions that come with those numbers immediately makes them feel like experts who can comment on that particular player. but in reality they arent experts at all, they are just morons who know how to manipulate stats guru and have no first hand knowledge of what happened. before statsguru became the fountain of knowledge, people learned about the game by actually watching cricket matches, reading articles in the papers afterwards, discussing with other people. that's real knowledge. stats were never really a focal point of discussion, because people would be able to talk about the value of the player based on what they had seen of him and how they thought he could play. that doesnt even happen anymore. you see this in journalism as well. take a look at the stats heavy articles on cricinfo - lots of pointless stats brought up, being made the focus of the article, instead of being used as something to supplement a broader qualitative observation or argument. i dont even bother reading the articles on cricinfo anymore - the site is only useful for tracking news and for looking at pictures, live scores, etc.

You are right about stats and reading about the game. It is the whole conversion of everything in our lives that we were/are so passionate about, down to, what I prefer to call, a fast food version of it. We have no patience for anything. We are not interested in knowing in detail about anything. Just a cursory knowledge is good enough. That is not so irritating if this superfluous knowledge was not then converted into pseudo-punditry - and it works amongst the like-minded. It is sad because these people are losing out on one of the greatest pleasures of life - knowledge - about anything you feel passionately about. It was on this forum that, following a thread on Alec Bedser's death, I saw a post asking "BTW who was this Alec Bedser?" or words to that effect. It made me change the obituary I was writing for the great man to this . . . Getting To Know The Gentle Giant - From Those Who Did Know Him My signature (which is something I said in reply to a poster many years ago) expresses similar sentiments. I try to inculcate a love for reading amongst youngsters who are clearly in love with the game and have even given away books to some I felt might actually read them but it is tough work trust me :-)

[Guest BossBhai]

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[Herculus]

8 hours of ODI cricket is too much for the brain & eyes to take 6 hours of Test is good if your team is batting