vamos_rafa Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 If you lay down a simplistic assumption that low team totals = result of difficult pitches and or tough opposition ... the stats show the batsmen who do well in such situations. PS : Veeru's 201* at Galle misses out because the team managed more than 300 ... which is unfair. BossBhai I would not agree to this statement completely. This assumption in itself does not guarantee the reason of the team's low score. Take for instance the Test match at Headingley where we won in 2002. You would not find a track which is tougher to bat on and still we scored 600+ and that means for Sachin,Dravid it would go into the 2nd category. Similarly if you consider the Ahmedabad test where we were bundled out for 76,though it was a green track,but I would not believe that the conditions were really hostile for such a batting line up to get bundled out like that. It was a bad day and hence this would degrade the averages more for someone like Sachin in the 1st category. As you yourself have pointed out VS' innings also got missed out. These are plain numbers which would make people beleive that a KP or an Inzi did better than Sachin in low scoring matches. But these are blatantly misleading IMO.
CSK Fan Posted October 8, 2010 Posted October 8, 2010 As you yourself have pointed out VS' innings also got missed out. These are plain numbers which would make people beleive that a KP or an Inzi did better than Sachin in low scoring matches. But these are blatantly misleading IMO. Have you heard about Occam's Razor? Braodly speaking, it states that the simplest solution is usually the right one. So the guys with the most runs with a great average is the best. When we enter meaningless number crunching like trying to attribute team goals to a batmen(victory or defeat), check for part of a match(4th innings), part of batting(strike rates, etc), we lose sight of the big picture(that everything combined and not one part is what makes the batsman). Plus these selective stats can be manipulated to suit the user's agenda. He will usually have an agenda in mind first before asking for/pulling the stats and then will twist the stats to prove the same
Rajan Posted October 9, 2010 Posted October 9, 2010 Have you heard about Occam's Razor? Braodly speaking, it states that the simplest solution is usually the right one. So the guys with the most runs with a great average is the best. When we enter meaningless number crunching like trying to attribute team goals to a batmen(victory or defeat), check for part of a match(4th innings), part of batting(strike rates, etc), we lose sight of the big picture(that everything combined and not one part is what makes the batsman). Plus these selective stats can be manipulated to suit the user's agenda. He will usually have an agenda in mind first before asking for/pulling the stats and then will twist the stats to prove the same absolutely correct:hatsoff:
Shane Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 53 Not Out chasing on the final day and winning
Guest Gunner Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Oh patriiiiiiiiiiiiii. how are you???? :search:
Roshanrocks Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 53 Not Out chasing on the final day and winning HELL YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :yay:
Rajiv Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 4th Innings Chase 200 or more, who has done it more successfully
b555 Posted October 14, 2010 Posted October 14, 2010 one request top 10 list of captains who have remained unbeaten for most successive number of series
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