yoda Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 So what if he does?! I mean he expressed what he felt... Why is that a good reason to fire him? This is NPR's statement and I agree with them: Late Wednesday night, NPR issued a statement praising Williams as a valuable contributor but saying it had given him notice that it is severing his contract. "His remarks on The O'Reilly Factor this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR," the statement read. Couple this with my other comments in this thread and you will see why I agree with them.
Patriot_Nikhil Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 This is NPR's statement and I agree with them: Couple this with my other comments in this thread and you will see why I agree with them. "His remarks on The O'Reilly Factor this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR" Oh come on, credibility and NPR do not go hand in hand... Nina Totenberg wished God would give Jesse Holmes and his grand-children AIDS, she kept her job... I guess that comment was/is consistent with their "editorial standards and practices"... :winky:
kumble_rocks Posted October 23, 2010 Author Posted October 23, 2010 Freedom of speech is definitely restricted depending on the type of job you have. You can't say whatever comes to your mind on TV, unless ofc you are a Fox News commentator. :winky: BTW, on an unrelated issue, but related to rights, do you know that those who work as reporters for news papers/TV channels aren't allowed to attend rallys of political parties unless they are reporting officially there? Would you consider that a violation of their constitutional rights? Possibly, but that is part of their job description. Apparently , All the View hosts who presided over the event which started this whole mess are in perfect agreement in unequivocally condemning NPR's decision to fire Juan Williams. Again , I repeat he went to a private channel as a analyst to give his personal opinion about a fear , albeit irrational . Their was no intended malice their. This is a freedom of speech issue , he didn't say anything abuse like "Muslims are terrorists" etc. Even the listeners of NPR are pretty peeved .
kumble_rocks Posted October 23, 2010 Author Posted October 23, 2010 Freedom of speech is definitely restricted depending on the type of job you have. You can't say whatever comes to your mind on TV, unless ofc you are a Fox News commentator. :winky: BTW, on an unrelated issue, but related to rights, do you know that those who work as reporters for news papers/TV channels aren't allowed to attend rallys of political parties unless they are reporting officially there? Would you consider that a violation of their constitutional rights? Possibly, but that is part of their job description. Apparently , All the View hosts who presided over the event which started this whole mess are in perfect agreement in unequivocally condemning NPR's decision to fire Juan Williams. Again , I repeat, he went to a private channel as a analyst to express his personal opinion about a fear , albeit irrational about flying amidst people whom he perceives identify their religion before country. Their was no intended malice imho. This is a freedom of speech issue , he didn't say anything abuse like "Muslims are terrorists" etc. This is a guy who steadfastly supported Palestine over Israel over the yearsl. So it's not as if , he has anti-muslim agenda . Even the listeners of NPR are pretty peeved by this firing . I don't want NPR to be a partisan hack channel . We have foxnews and MSNBC for that. I am afraid NPR is showing it's true colors and trying to curb independent voices..... And finally I would like to quote Jon Stewart here , when he came out against CNN firing Rick Sanchez who incidentally got axed for calling Jon , a Jew Bigot.. "I think it's absolute insanity. I think that this idea that people have to be held, to account for everything that comes out of their mouths as far as their livlihoods are concerned.. "
yoda Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 Oh come on' date=' credibility and NPR do not go hand in hand... Nina Totenberg wished God would give Jesse Holmes and his grand-children AIDS, she kept her job... I guess that comment was/is consistent with their "editorial standards and practices"... :winky:[/quote'] Of course not, whoever said the things are always fair. One difference is in her case is it was isolated against an individual, in this case it was against an entire community. Also I am not sure if she had to or did apologize for her remarks.
yoda Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 Apparently , All the View hosts who presided over the event which started this whole mess are in perfect agreement in unequivocally condemning NPR's decision to fire Juan Williams. Again , I repeat, he went to a private channel as a analyst to express his personal opinion about a fear , albeit irrational about flying amidst people whom he perceives identify their religion before country. Their was no intended malice imho. This is a freedom of speech issue , he didn't say anything abuse like "Muslims are terrorists" etc. This is a guy who steadfastly supported Palestine over Israel over the yearsl. So it's not as if , he has anti-muslim agenda . Even the listeners of NPR are pretty peeved by this firing . I don't want NPR to be a partisan hack channel . We have foxnews and MSNBC for that. I am afraid NPR is showing it's true colors and trying to curb independent voices..... And finally I would like to quote Jon Stewart here , when he came out against CNN firing Rick Sanchez who incidentally got axed for calling Jon , a Jew Bigot.. "I think it's absolute insanity. I think that this idea that people have to be held, to account for everything that comes out of their mouths as far as their livlihoods are concerned.. " The View hosts are a bunch of clowns not worth discussing. I agree he went to a private channel, which is why he needs to stay there and keep NPR out of his cr@p. Why does he need two jobs anyways especially when one of them is at a channel which is in direction contradiction with the principles of his other employer. He has been playing this double game for a while and was finally found out. NPR is anything but a partisan hack which is why such bigoted statements need to stay out of that place. Anyways, he can continue to suspect Muslims of everything at Fox News, they will only love him for that as he will have good company there. I don't want guys like him at NPR funding public money for this cr@p. When he suspects a Muslim because of his religion he is essentially saying "any muslim is capable of being a terrorist" which is more in line with BB's views (I am sure he won't mind :winky:) than a publicly funded neutral channel like NPR. All he had to do was take back his statement or issue a clarification, but Mr Big Shot had to stand by his words, so he gets to make more money at Fox and bash everyone who is not a white/christian/conservative to his heart's content. If the guy is not bigoted, how the hell does he take up a job at Fox News? I know he claims he is for civil rights, yada yada yada, but his claims seem inconsistent with his words here. And regarding Rick Sanchez, even he agrees that he was wrong, so there is that.
Patriot_Nikhil Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 Of course not' date=' whoever said the things are always fair. One difference is in her case is it was isolated against an individual, in this case it was against an entire community. [/quote'] No it was not... All he expressed was his feeling or his fear... It was not against a community as you claim... As for Totenberg, that one remark was just a sample... Posing as a journalist, not even a news analyst, she has said various despicable things about conservatives while at NPR... Apparently slandering conservatives is fine by the "non-partisan" NPR, but to express your feelings which are deviant to liberal principles - now thats not on!
yoda Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 No it was not... All he expressed was his feeling or his fear... It was not against a community as you claim... As for Totenberg, that one remark was just a sample... Posing as a journalist, not even a news analyst, she has said various despicable things about conservatives while at NPR... Apparently slandering conservatives is fine by the "non-partisan" NPR, but to express your feelings which are deviant to liberal principles - now thats not on! Are you one of those who thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" and NPR is "liberal"? :winky: Here is a link which talks about NPR and the myth of it being liberal leaning. It is a bit outdated (2004), but the notion that NPR is liberal leaning has been unsuccessfully portrayed by Republicans since the Nixon days. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1180
yoda Posted October 23, 2010 Posted October 23, 2010 Looks like BB has found a way to lock threads even after giving up moderation. :hehe:
Patriot_Nikhil Posted October 24, 2010 Posted October 24, 2010 Are you one of those who thinks Fox News is "fair and balanced" and NPR is "liberal"? :winky: Here is a link which talks about NPR and the myth of it being liberal leaning. It is a bit outdated (2004), but the notion that NPR is liberal leaning has been unsuccessfully portrayed by Republicans since the Nixon days. http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1180 Come on Yoda, dont tell me NPR is non-partisan... NPR's actions speak a lot for it than any published article... For them to act like they're fair is :hysterical:
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