Cricket Tragic Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 He needs to play some FC cricket. A spell in county cricket would be good for his bowling rather than some mindless T20 games.
Sachin=GOD Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 he can either play in the tamasha and continue making these "comeback in 4-5 months" type of statements or he play some sensible cricket and actually make a comeback in 4-5 months.
Karan114 Posted May 24, 2011 Posted May 24, 2011 irfu has been talking about this "comeback in another 4-5 months" for the last 4-5 yrs ' date='maybe it would be better is he just falls and dreams, then it might actually come true :giggle:[/quote'] Yeah, it does seem like we've been hearing his "I'll be back" statements for quite a while now...maybe the 4-5 months comment is more a case of telling us when the next announcement of "I'll be back" will be :cantstop:
Chandan Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 He needs to play some FC cricket. A spell in county cricket would be good for his bowling rather than some mindless T20 games. And how will he get that spell in county cricket? Do they sell their bowlers' spots like roshogullahs?
Cricket Tragic Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 And how will he get that spell in county cricket? Do they sell their bowlers' spots like roshogullahs? Well I follow county cricket closely and I'm a member at Middlesex CC. He will easily get a contract for a division 2 club atleast. Some of the internationals aren't that special these days. A lot of test discards around. Even Zak was unfit and in piss poor form back in 06 and got a division 2 contract. Players like Sree, Ishant, Pathan etc would get one if they try.
Chandan Posted May 25, 2011 Author Posted May 25, 2011 Well I follow county cricket closely and I'm a member at Middlesex CC. He will easily get a contract for a division 2 club atleast. Some of the internationals aren't that special these days. A lot of test discards around. Even Zak was unfit and in piss poor form back in 06 and got a division 2 contract. Players like Sree, Ishant, Pathan etc would get one if they try. Hmm.. not sure about Sree and Ish as they are under BCCI contract and BCCI won't give them the permission because of their difference with ECB. But I'm sure Pathan can certainly get the permission if he manages a contract in county as he is not under BCCI contract too. Can he manage one? Thats the question. Will any spot be available, now that the championship has already started?
saneindian Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Well I follow county cricket closely and I'm a member at Middlesex CC. He will easily get a contract for a division 2 club atleast. Some of the internationals aren't that special these days. A lot of test discards around. Even Zak was unfit and in piss poor form back in 06 and got a division 2 contract. Players like Sree, Ishant, Pathan etc would get one if they try. Last year, Piyush Chawla [ Images ] (Sussex), Irfan Pathan (Essex and Yorkshire), S Sreesanth (Warwickshire), Ishant Sharma (Kent and Hampshire), Amit Mishra (Worcestershire) and Virender Sehwag (Northamptonshire) evoked interest from the counties, but were forced to turn down offers as BCCI refused to give them the NOCs. Obviously, no county is going to look at an Indian player for a season long contract. No wonder no Indian player was approached this year when counties were looking for overseas players. As for Irfan getting a div 2 club contract, we are in mid season now, counties have finalised their overseas contracts and there are no paces to be grabbed. The only way Irfan or other Indian players can get a short term contract is through injuries of overseas players or some of them going for national duty (Like Maharoof has been called to the Lankan team opening up a place at Lancashire). Give this scenario, there's nothing wrong in Irfan saying yes to a t20 contract. It could open up further opportunities if things go well.
Cricket Tragic Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Hmm.. not sure about Sree and Ish as they are under BCCI contract and BCCI won't give them the permission because of their difference with ECB. But I'm sure Pathan can certainly get the permission if he manages a contract in county as he is not under BCCI contract too. Can he manage one? Thats the question. Will any spot be available, now that the championship has already started? That is a different issue altogether. My point is that the Indian seamers who have played with reasonable success would not have an issue with getting a contract if they tried. Over a month into the CC. Much harder now but spots open up due to various reasons. Does Pathan really want it? Talks that he is also planning to play the T20 in SL as well.
Karan114 Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 That is a different issue altogether. My point is that the Indian seamers who have played with reasonable success would not have an issue with getting a contract if they tried. Over a month into the CC. Much harder now but spots open up due to various reasons. Does Pathan really want it? Talks that he is also planning to play the T20 in SL as well. Apparently Tsotobe fell out with Essex and is being sent back home: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/13541658.stm
Cricket Tragic Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 Apparently Tsotobe fell out with Essex and is being sent back home: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/13541658.stm Yep, spots open up for "various reasons" like I said. :cantstop:
King Tendulkar Posted May 25, 2011 Posted May 25, 2011 People still pining after crapthan. :hysterical:
Sidhoni Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Greg Chappal was also one of the reasons because of which his carrier suffered, he killed the bowler in him, and he looked at him as a batsman, sending him in at no. 3.
suraj Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Greg Chappal was also one of the reasons because of which his carrier suffered' date=' he killed the bowler in him, and he looked at him as a batsman, sending him in at no. 3.[/quote'] That is just an excuse- good players come back from such setbacks Chappell interfered with Veeru, Sachin & Yuvi too- look where they are now High time we simply get rid of Irfan nostalgia; if he can't find a way to improve let him stay invisible
jonas10 Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 Hopefully Irfan gets his groove back. Lets never forget his awesome spell in 2007 T20 finals against Pakistan. Much better for India to have a problem of too many options than too few options!
Karan114 Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 That is just an excuse- good players come back from such setbacks Chappell interfered with Veeru, Sachin & Yuvi too- look where they are now High time we simply get rid of Irfan nostalgia; if he can't find a way to improve let him stay invisible Well said.
saneindian Posted May 26, 2011 Posted May 26, 2011 That is just an excuse- good players come back from such setbacks Chappell interfered with Veeru, Sachin & Yuvi too- look where they are now High time we simply get rid of Irfan nostalgia; if he can't find a way to improve let him stay invisible Since he was dropped the team, he went back to domestic cricket and did decently. In the 2008-09 season, played 5 matches, 22 wickets@18 and 222 runs@37 and then in the 2009-10 season played 7 matches 31 wikets@20 and 465 runs@39. Just when he was getting back to his rhythm he suffered an injury and was out of the game for 9-10 months. BCCI not allowing him to play county cricket has also hampered his comeback bid. But towards the later stages of the IPL, he showed that he still has that bana swing. Needs to push the speed slightly and he could be the same bowler he once was. A fit Irfan, bowling with that swing, will walk into our ODI bowling line up even now.
suraj Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Since he was dropped the team, he went back to domestic cricket and did decently. In the 2008-09 season, played 5 matches, 22 wickets@18 and 222 runs@37 and then in the 2009-10 season played 7 matches 31 wikets@20 and 465 runs@39. Just when he was getting back to his rhythm he suffered an injury and was out of the game for 9-10 months. BCCI not allowing him to play county cricket has also hampered his comeback bid. But towards the later stages of the IPL, he showed that he still has that bana swing. Needs to push the speed slightly and he could be the same bowler he once was. A fit Irfan, bowling with that swing, will walk into our ODI bowling line up even now. Best of luck to him will love to have him back if he can deliver
ch1234 Posted May 27, 2011 Posted May 27, 2011 Irfan?.. He doesnt have that physique any more to be termed as an international fast bowler. He doesnt have that talent to score big in intls also.. Shed some weight, get some pace,..You are welcome, Irfan..
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