Sachin's centuries and India's defeats.

[Raghav_12]

You may very well post the IQ' date='CAT scores & MSFT certificates of all of them. Would be a good case to study.[/quote'] would be a good case study. And it would be interesting to analyze, which one of two is more bizzare? a) Sachin's centuries not helping India to win b) High CAT score and MSFT certifications not helping somebody to think logically?

[CSK Fan]

Not that big a point. As we have seen, win %age when sachin plays and when he doesn't play is almost the same. Ideally when the best batsman in the world scores a ton, the team should win more than 55%, because the team is not that incapable.

A bowling lineup which cannot defend 333 is not incapable for you? Why should India win more than 55% when we are playing the likes of Australia and SA? To win against these teams you need to be good in all disciplines including bowking. So while having a huge score is enough against the likes of NZ, WI, its clearly only job half done against teams like Aus and SA who have very good batting too The fact that you are not able to comprehend the above logic and the fact that you are using selective stats(since 2000) and not enough sample to exclude for co-incidences, external circumstances, makes me pity you

[Anakin]

Idiocracy was based on people like, you know who

[vaibhav_delhi]

A bowling lineup which cannot defend 333 is not incapable for you? Why should India win more than 55% when we are playing the likes of Australia and SA? To win against these teams you need to be good in all disciplines including bowking. So while having a huge score is enough against the likes of NZ' date= WI, its clearly only job half done against teams like Aus and SA who have very good batting too

Since I have already mentioned the below thrice (and also bcoz the sample size becomes smaller), I dont think it was needed to further break down that stat :

win %age when sachin plays and when he doesn't play is almost the same.

Anyways: Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL, India have won 64/108=59.3% (only taken matches where sachin plays): http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match out of 12 Tons Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL (Not counting the Ton in No-Result match), India has won 6 matches. (50%) http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax2=15+Mar+2011;spanmin2=01+Jan+2000;spanval2=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=5;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax1=15+Mar+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match

[Raghav_12]

Since I have already mentioned the below thrice (and also bcoz the sample size becomes smaller), I dont think it was needed to further break down that stat : Anyways: Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL, India have won 64/108=59.3% (only taken matches where sachin plays): http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match out of 12 Tons Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL (Not counting the Ton in No-Result match), India has won 6 matches. (50%) http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax2=15+Mar+2011;spanmin2=01+Jan+2000;spanval2=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax2=15+Mar+2011;spanmin2=01+Jan+2000;spanval2=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match

can you plz calculate % after excluding Pakistan which has been pretty strong team for other than last two years?

[vaibhav_delhi]

can you plz calculate % after excluding Pakistan which has been pretty strong team for other than last two years?

Sure, But what if I take Pakistan only ? :P

[Raghav_12]

Sure' date=' But what if I take Pakistan only ? :P[/quote'] well put both the numbers..

[EnterTheVoid]

Vaibhav, I find it quite amazing you work at Microsoft yet you can't grasp simple logic and reasoning

[vaibhav_delhi]

well put both the numbers..

Dont think thats much useful, but still: 50/77 Vs NZ, SL, ENg, WI. wins in Tons : 6/9. 14/31 Vs Pak. Wins in Tons : 0/3

[Raghav_12]

Dont think thats much useful, but still: 50/77 89/155 (57%) Vs NZ, SL, ENg, WI. wins in Tons : 6/9 (67%) http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=8;orderby=won;spanmin1=05+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;team=6;template=results;type=team 14/31 Vs Pak. Wins in Tons : 0/3

Look at the highlighted part. An improvement in winning % from 57% to 67% because of Sachin's centuries.

[Gunner_Mania]

Seriously..You guys are still debating this??

[gaurav92]

^I agree, why can't mods with Paavaarz close this effing thread :mad: Its disgusting to see people stoop that low

[Sachin=GOD]

Seriously..You guys are still debating this??

there's nothing to debate...................Vaibhav is just repeatedly making a fool of himself.

[akshayxyz]

Since I have already mentioned the below thrice (and also bcoz the sample size becomes smaller), I dont think it was needed to further break down that stat : Anyways: Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL, India have won 64/108=59.3% (only taken matches where sachin plays): http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;spanmax1=31+Dec+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match out of 12 Tons Vs NZ, WI, Eng, Pak, SL (Not counting the Ton in No-Result match), India has won 6 matches. (50%) http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax2=15+Mar+2011;spanmin2=01+Jan+2000;spanval2=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/35320.html?class=2;filter=advanced;opposition=1;opposition=2;opposition=3;opposition=4;opposition=5;opposition=7;opposition=8;orderby=start;result=1;result=2;result=3;result=5;runsmin1=100;runsval1=runs;spanmax1=15+Mar+2011;spanmin1=01+Jan+2000;spanval1=span;template=results;type=batting;view=match

:facepalm: Is it too early to say that I have seen enough?

Look at the highlighted part. An improvement in winning % from 57% to 67% because of Sachin's centuries.

Nice attempt Raghav - but even this is not going to cross right->left brain barrier of certain instances of Homo Sapiens.

[Sid]

12 pages and still going on..............:aha:

[gaurav92]

^Keep trolling mate I envy you and the entire Elite Spammers group :sniffle:

[Sid]

^Keep trolling mate I envy you and the entire Elite Spammers group :sniffle:

:proud: P.S :This is not trolling :finger:

[The Outsider]

Vaibhav' date=' I find it quite amazing you work at Microsoft yet you can't grasp simple logic and reasoning[/quote'] I don't - that's probably the first quality they look for to deliver all the trash they do.

[Anakin]

Vaibhav' date=' I find it quite amazing you work at Microsoft yet you can't grasp simple logic and reasoning[/quote'] Just so you know, not everyone at MS or any company is a genius, in fact, only handful of them are, most are pretty good and the rest, including this idiot, are pretty ordinary to outright fools.

[Raghav_12]

:facepalm: Nice attempt Raghav - but even this is not going to cross right->left brain barrier of certain instances of Homo Sapiens.

No hope either.. Anyways now Vaibhav_Delhi is trying to analyze Sachin's contribution to Indian team based on grand total of 9 innings where he has total 48 centuries and more than 450 ODI's. looking at the trend soon he will have a sample size of 0 and would claim that Sachin never scored an useful century as none of these 0 centuries would have resulted in win..:winky: