youngindia Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 they didn't have depth in bowling(the thrid pace bowler) and batting this time. since re admission, they are really a bowling heavy side. their batsmen were just a combination of good and solid with nothing great. that's the reason for their past defeats vs australia who had real matchwinners. their batting lacked gift and flair. but amla, duminy and de villiers give them a flair and a dangerous look they were missing all these years. that's why they won their first series in australia . still there are some missing pieces
NareshK Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Kallis played a stupid shot IMO. He was the guy who is supposed to stay till the end. Also Devilliers' runout was a huge blow. Amla was unfortunate to get out but he didnt look in great touch throughout the tournament. I never had too many expectations from others.
Ultimate_Game Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 they didn't have depth in bowling(the thrid pace bowler) and batting this time. since re admission, they are really a bowling heavy side. their batsmen were just a combination of good and solid with nothing great. that's the reason for their past defeats vs australia who had real matchwinners. their batting lacked gift and flair. but amla, duminy and de villiers give them a flair and a dangerous look they were missing all these years. that's why they won their first series in australia . still there are some missing pieces The "missing pieces" are between the ears of the SA players :winky:
Raghav_12 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 they didn't have depth in bowling(the thrid pace bowler) and batting this time. since re admission, they are really a bowling heavy side. their batsmen were just a combination of good and solid with nothing great. that's the reason for their past defeats vs australia who had real matchwinners. their batting lacked gift and flair. but amla, duminy and de villiers give them a flair and a dangerous look they were missing all these years. that's why they won their first series in australia . still there are some missing pieces India don't have a second pace bowler itself, forget about third. Still they did better than SA. It's all about handling pressure.
youngindia Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 India don't have a second pace bowler itself' date=' forget about third. Still they did better than SA. It's all about handling pressure.[/quote'] under pressure, your weak points and weak links often come out. their depth in batting was their weakest link.it killed them today our weaknesses has been exposed a few times alright.
youngindia Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 India don't have a second pace bowler itself' date=' forget about third. Still they did better than SA. It's all about handling pressure.[/quote'] that "second pace bowler" was thrashed and it gaves aussie a real sniff at victory.we were exposed that way.our 3 main bowlers + yuvraj bowled very well and limited the damage . its our last wicket pair that stood between victory and defeat
Schickelgruber Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Epic thread and epic stats as well :hysterical:
Raghav_12 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 under pressure, your weak points and weak links often come out. their depth in batting was their weakest link.it killed them today our weaknesses has been exposed a few times alright. Amla, ABDV have definitely been in top 5 ODI batsmen of world in last one year or so. Add Kallis and Smith to mix who are proven and experienced players. Then they have Duminy as well. How much more batting depth you need after 5 champion batsmen. Have you had a look at Pak batting line up? I can't even name 5 of their batsman without looking at scorecard of their last match. Look at England's or SL (they don't have anything after top 4) batting line up. They definitely look inferior to SA's. It's just about handling pressure.
youngindia Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 Amla' date=' ABDV have definitely been in top 5 ODI batsmen of world in last one year or so. Add Kallis and Smith to mix who are proven and experienced players. Then they have Duminy as well. How much more batting depth you need after 5 champion batsmen. .[/quote'] your exaggerration aside,this does not make up for depth. depth means number of competent batsman and precisely that. Saying 5 can compensate for depth is like gambling and won't work. The trick is to fill as many matchwinners and the best quality of players as possible. they all have their weaknesses and they have suffered defeats as well. its now a question of who will hide their weaknesses without going into defeat. SA's fault was they created a wekaness by their own decision. that's what i am faulting at. and there are cricketing reasons why they lose. to attribute it all to pressure would be faulty . the real cricketing reasons would be missed. handling pressure is only coming up with your best. what if your best is not good enough? their best will never have been good enough because there are better teams 1, australia for the past 3 WC. 2. india for this WC. they were never the real favourites.at best the 2nd favourites. The point is as a player if you think about handling pressure, its good. becuase the player has to come up with his best. but it does not give anyone super human powers . an an analyst, to harp too much about pressure is bad. It will only kill our analysis.
Chandan Posted March 27, 2011 Posted March 27, 2011 1992 Lost in the semis 1996 Lost in the QF 1999 Tied vs Aussies, knocked out 2003 Did not reach the knock out stages 2007 Lost to the Aussies in the semis 2011 Thumped by the Kiwis in the QF Amazing. Before 2011, even Kiwis had not a single knock out match in world cup!
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