Sid Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 ^I agree with you but what baffles me is that he should have tried Aaron atleast once,not even trying him once and continuing with crapness of VK will raise certain questions.I know Aaron is not Malcolm Marshall's second coming but still he wont be any crap than VK. If he had tried Aaron and shown the world what he is all about,then there would have been no questions asked of Dhoni.
ganeshran Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 The only explanation could be that Aaron was really poor in the nets. Dont see any other reason why VK was given a chance over him in the last match. Without a lot of bowling options, if one bowler bowls really bad, Dhoni would have to get his overs from either Raina or Kohli both of whom are risky bowlers.
Sid Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 That could be a reason but the point is Aaron may be bowling poorly in nets but Vinay Kumar was bowling poorly in the match :D. Even if this wayward bowling at nets is the reason,then also he could have been given a game atleast in the last ODI ,which was a dead rubber.
asterix Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 Guys, VA cannot be as poor as VK. VA recently bowled well in the emerging players tournament and the selectors deemed it right to send him to England. There's no point in discussing this issue now but many including myself feel that VK was given too many chances while not a single chance to VA.
darkknight Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 I would say, he is mentally disintegrated and 'shell shocked'. He needs some psychiatric counselling before he go to Auz tour.
ganeshran Posted September 18, 2011 Posted September 18, 2011 VA will probably get his chances in the England ODI. I agree that we must try him out even if it is to find out he is crap. Just speculating isnt looking good
Sid Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Dhoni Not out Up Up until April this year, everything MS Dhoni touched turned to gold. For his first captaincy trick, he led India to a World T20 triumph. Then, he guided India to number one in Test rankings, followed by the World Cup triumph. At that point, everything in Dhoni's world glittered. Suddenly, where he once had gold dust sifting through his fingers, he now only has dirt under his nails. Under his leadership, a deflated India was thrashed in all three forms of the game by England. Now, his beloved Chennai Super Kings have been dumped from the Champions League prior to the knockout stage. It's been a disastrous six months for Dhoni and tongues have started wagging. STILL CAPTAIN COOL Has Dhoni lost his magic touch or has he reached his use-by date as captain? None of the telltale signs that occur when a captain reaches his use-by-date have appeared in Dhoni's case. Generally, when a captain's time is nearing its end, the team stops reacting positively to his leadership, the skipper becomes short-tempered or starts acting differently in an attempt to show he hasn't lost the team's respect. There might be some argument for saying that the team didn't react positively to his leadership in England. But, I put it down to an injury-plagued, ageing side that ran out of steam. Outside of that, Dhoni is still his cool, calm self. What Dhoni needs most now is some worthwhile rest from cricket to recharge his batteries. If a captain is mentally fatigued, he becomes increasingly conservative and Dhoni's success as a captain has been based on aggressively pursuing victory. The other thing he needs is injection of youth in Test side. It would do wonders for his captaincy if the selectors could unearth a couple of attacking bowlers. Successful cricket teams are built around a strong and versatile attack and the more penetrative the bowling, the more aggressive the captain. NO OBVIOUS SUCCESSOR There are two other valid reasons why now is not the right time to start thinking about dumping him as captain. Firstly, there is no obvious successor to Dhoni and secondly a demanding tour of Australia is not the time to blood a captain. Of the potential future captains, Gautam Gambhir and Suresh Raina stand out. Currently, both have serious issues that need to be addressed before anyone begins to think of either as a potential Test captain. A captain has to be tough --- he has to stay on the field under the most-dire circumstances and Gambhir failed that test in England. If Gambhir is looking for an example of what a captain should be like, he need not look beyond Dhoni. People can say what they like about Dhoni's leadership, but no one can accuse him of being a malingerer or dodging the hard going. A good part of captaincy is leading by example; it's not a matter of 'do-as-I-say' but more like 'follow-what-I-do'. Dhoni has been exemplary in this respect. Lately though, it's been a different case. He was unable to inspire his team-mates in the Test series against England despite a return to batting form late in the contest. More recently in the Champions League, when his team needed him the most, he was well short of his best. An innings of 7 runs from 22 balls in a T20 match would always be a cause for concern. However, when it comes in a game where the Chennai Super Kings had to win against Trinidad and Tobago to progress in the tournament, it is particularly worrying. Was that innings a cry for help? Was it a sign that he's finally so mentally fatigued that he didn't have it in him to rise to the occasion? There are times when while the flesh is still willing, the spirit just can't raise the intensity. Dhoni's big challenge will come in Australia. Another disaster like the tour of England would not only heighten calls for his head, but would also have him wondering if he'd taken this team as far as he could. The selectors need to pick players who will not just give India a chance to win the series, but also inject youthful enthusiasm. This is not an easy job, but the selectors only have themselves to blame. Not only have they not thought ahead in choosing players so there was a smooth transition from ageing stars to talented newcomers, they've also neglected to address the issue of leadership grooming. The worst-case scenario would be a disastrous tour of Australia, followed by Dhoni deciding to relinquish leadership. THE WAY OUT One way out of the mess for Dhoni could be to reduce the number of forms of the game he plays. Ideally, he would stay on as the Test skipper because in that form of the game there is no obvious replacement. So, right now, the priorities for Indian cricket are to find a way to give Dhoni a breather that will help rejuvenate him for the Australian tour. Then, they have to unearth some bowlers who will allow him to return to his aggressive mode. At the same time, they have to start planning for another AD age --- After Dhoni. If these plans aren't enacted, there's the possibility that the Australian tour will be another disaster. If that happens, Dhoni will have reached his use-by date. Good piece by Ian Chappel in HT. Dhoni not out
Cricket Tragic Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Once Chappell picks on someone, he goes all out against them. Gambhir made him look like a fool in the WC. :hahaha:
Sid Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 Yes ,only him and jonas believed Gauti should not be in our world cup 11 :--D
Sidhoni Posted October 10, 2011 Posted October 10, 2011 When he got the Man of the Series in England, that was our only positive from the ODI's and many ppl thought that this might be the end of this disaster, butt it just continued in the Champions League. We need to win the home series against Eng badly, to regain some much needed confidence. Many said that he early exclusion of CSK gave M$D some welcome rest, but they played their last match on 4th, and the Eng series starts on 14, rest of just 10 days. If CSK had won the tourney(which was supposed to happen:winky:), he would have again got a rest of just 4-5 days. The best plan possible now is to do well in the series against Eng, and Dhoni needs to take rest and should not play in the WI odi series. And young fast bowling prospects like Aaron and Yadav should be given a chance in both these tourneys, and provided they do well, they can be taken to Aus.
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