Trundlers R US

[Cricket Tragic]

This is'nt our long run attack. Our real attack comprises(1st string) Yadav, Aaron, Zaks, Rahul Sharma, Ashwin and then Irfan, if he gets his act together he too makes the list. This if you ask me is more than formidable. 2nd String- With so many out and out wicket taking bowlers you need that bowler who has control and most importantly intelligence to adapt to any situation and limit the flow of runs. If Sreesanth can adapt and be that player then power to him. Otherwise in our second string lineup VK and PK will always take precedence over Sreesanth.

What are the odds that our "real attack" will ever play a game, let alone a series, together?

[chainsmoker1985]

I think he was dropped not because of form but injury ' date='if you are going to give guys like pk who average 36 and vk who average 33,might as well give munaf a chance[/quote'] But, I don't want to go back to him now coz then you will be again sending down wrong signals to him and he will again take his place for granted. He first needs to prove himself before being picked for the national team.

[Dravid_TheWall]

His batting is hit and miss type even in the sub-continent. I mean, may be he has now improved his batting a bit but I don't think so coz last time I saw of him, he was still an incomplete international player. He always say that he don't want to change his game, but I think someone has to tell him that he don't need 2 change his game, actually he needs to improve his game. His game is very mediocre and very very limited to a few shots. His bowling is also very predictable and don't have much variety. So, he needs to improve his overall game.

:haha: I agree with what you say. My brother has previously said to me that he doesn't see why I like this guy, he goes when you look at him, he is a very limited cricketer. He does need to improve his game but he is a certainty for T20 because of how he can change the game or always score quick. But for ODI no7 he has to improve. If he learns how to milk the ball around and knock it for singles, he could make that spot his. Problem is currently he either blocks or slogs. Basically he for sure is not a natural finisher...

[Dravid_TheWall]

This is'nt our long run attack. Our real attack comprises(1st string) Yadav, Aaron, Zaks, Rahul Sharma, Ashwin and then Irfan, if he gets his act together he too makes the list. This if you ask me is more than formidable. 2nd String- With so many out and out wicket taking bowlers you need that bowler who has control and most importantly intelligence to adapt to any situation and limit the flow of runs. If Sreesanth can adapt and be that player then power to him. Otherwise in our second string lineup VK and PK will always take precedence over Sreesanth.

I see your point in most of that post but Yadav is very raw yet. Jury is still out if he will make it in ODI's. Aaron has started off well. Point I disagree with is what you say about Sreesanth. Are you saying he is not an out and out wicket taking bowler and relies on control? I beg to differ, he has 75 wickets from 50 odd ODI's at SR of 33, he is one of our few natural wicket takers in all 3 formats. He definitely needs to sort his economy out though, he tries too hard :two_thumbs_up:

[jairamesh]

^^^Sreesanth just needs to sort his belly out, everything else will fall in place. But I seriously think he has given up on international cricket. His content with IPL and the odd media hulaabaloola here and there. On another topic with number of pace bowlers missing due to injury/fitness/operations is astonishing! I mean are we ever going to see Aaron again! The future of trundling is truly Blue, embrace it!

[chainsmoker1985]

:haha: I agree with what you say. My brother has previously said to me that he doesn't see why I like this guy, he goes when you look at him, he is a very limited cricketer. He does need to improve his game but he is a certainty for T20 because of how he can change the game or always score quick. But for ODI no7 he has to improve. If he learns how to milk the ball around and knock it for singles, he could make that spot his. Problem is currently he either blocks or slogs. Basically he for sure is not a natural finisher...

Ok let me add 1 more point here. The type of player Yusuf Pathan is, he cannot(or should not) play at an all-rounder's slot at no 7. Coz he is not an all-rounder. At best, he can play as a proper batsman higher up the order. He should leave this concept of playing as an all-rounder coz his bowling is too weak for an all-rounder. Rather he should look to improve his batting and try and come up the order. Thats the best he can do, to play as a proper batsman in the team. Even Raina can bowl better or equal to him.

[chainsmoker1985]

This is'nt our long run attack. Our real attack comprises(1st string) Yadav, Aaron, Zaks, Rahul Sharma, Ashwin and then Irfan, if he gets his act together he too makes the list. This if you ask me is more than formidable. 2nd String- With so many out and out wicket taking bowlers you need that bowler who has control and most importantly intelligence to adapt to any situation and limit the flow of runs. If Sreesanth can adapt and be that player then power to him. Otherwise in our second string lineup VK and PK will always take precedence over Sreesanth.

Sreesanth can still contribute a lot to the Indian team. I am just waiting for the day when this selection committee reforms and i hope new selection committee will deal with Sreesanth in a much better way. I feel sometimes, Sreesanth has given up on this selection committee and on MSD as well. But, he is given confidence and handled properly, he still can be a brilliant match-winner for India with his abilities.

[Old guy]

Ok let me add 1 more point here. The type of player Yusuf Pathan is, he cannot(or should not) play at an all-rounder's slot at no 7. Coz he is not an all-rounder. At best, he can play as a proper batsman higher up the order. He should leave this concept of playing as an all-rounder coz his bowling is too weak for an all-rounder. Rather he should look to improve his batting and try and come up the order. Thats the best he can do, to play as a proper batsman in the team. Even Raina can bowl better or equal to him.

i rate raina as better bowler then yusuf.

[chainsmoker1985]

i rate raina as better bowler then yusuf.

Yea right. Even Raina can do the same thing what Yusuf does with the ball. I love Yusuf Pathan batting when he is going bang bang. But, we all had very high expectations off him, but he failed miserably and he should have improved his game. Look at his bowling, does he looks like a proper spinner? No. And even in batting he scores in 1 out of 10 games. I think he can be a better batsman, but his bowling is too weak.

[Old guy]

Yea right. Even Raina can do the same thing what Yusuf does with the ball. I love Yusuf Pathan batting when he is going bang bang. But, we all had very high expectations off him, but he failed miserably and he should have improved his game. Look at his bowling, does he looks like a proper spinner? No. And even in batting he scores in 1 out of 10 games. I think he can be a better batsman, but his bowling is too weak.

agree his bowling is like that of david hussey.. (he worked a lot on it so its better now)

[CG]

god save indian cricket from trundlers.

[jairamesh]

I seriously wish death upon these bowlers, I seriously do, it's that embarrassing.

[J P K]

god save indian cricket from trundlers.

what about the so called fast bowler danda :cantstop:

[CG]

what about the so called fast bowler danda :cantstop:

Danda got hammered in one match ,rest are hammered for all their life.

[jairamesh]

Every other top cricketing nation attaches a stigma to trundlers and strive for raw pace, and we keep churning out trundler after trundler after trundler. Even the bangbros' Islam and Shadat were touching 140k/hr today, I didn't see Danda even get past 135k/hr!

[chainsmoker1985]

It is such a poor sight to see Indian trundlers struggling for even a single wicket match after match after match

[CG]

and still playing anf soem assss hoolees supporting them

[jairamesh]

It is such a poor sight to see Indian trundlers struggling for even a single wicket match after match after match

No, it hurts, it really hurts personally, well especially for fans who know the game from a technical point of view. Seeing the limitations of these Indian trundlers hurts like hell.

[Cricket Tragic]

god save indian cricket from trundlers.

Yeah, we saw Sreesanth in the match vs Bang in the WC. :hysterical::hysterical:

[CG]

Yeah' date=' we saw Sreesanth in the match vs Bang in the WC. :hysterical::hysterical:[/quote'] really you saw how many times he got edges which flew over keepers.:giggle: cricinfo commentary- 1 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 2 runs, short and wide first up, Tamim does well to reach out and pat it into the covers for a couple 0.2 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 4 leg byes, 131.2 kph, Sree begins with a couple of shockers, this one swings down the leg side and clips Tamim's pads on the way to fine leg. 0.3 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, no run, over-pitched this time and Tamim punches with authority, mid on has to move across fast to stop that 0.4 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, no run, 137.9 kph, We have the first referral of the World Cup. Umpire Dharmasena has said not out to Sree's lbw appeal and Dhoni has referred it. Sree has bowled a monster of a yorker and it has swung in viciously as Tamim looks to get across and the n arrests the forward movement, pulls the foot back as it crashes into his toes, and falls over. Sree thinks it is plumb, but replays suggest it might have marginally missed leg stump. Banana swing on that, it swerved into line and then darted back to land on leg. Replays say it might have carried on down the leg, so India have lost one referral. 0.5 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 2 runs, 141.9 kph, an eventful over this, Sreesanth has blowed hot, cold and every other temperature in between including lukewarm. Another short ball sitting up as it angles across Tamim who slaps into the covers for a couple 0.6 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, no run, 143.9 kph, back of a length on middle and off to end the over, not much Tamim could do. He stays in the crease and punches it back. Bangladesh 8/0 S Sreesanth 1-0-4-0 2.1 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, FOUR, 153.3 kph, uppish, but safe. Sreesanth again offers width, and challenges Kayes to clear the infield. Kayes obliges, staying beside the line, he opens the wrists and drives on the up, manages to get it just over cover point 2.2 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, no run, 155.0 kph, good line, not much Kayes can do with this, lands back of a length at decent pace around middle and off, Kayes goes back and punches defensively to mid off 2.3 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, FOUR, 148.0 kph, Sree is getting the ball to do things in the Mirpur nights. Another virtually unplayable inswinger to the left hander, the seam is menacingly straight as the ball curls in the air and Kayes is lucky to get anything in that. Thick inside edge as he nearly falls over, it misses the stumps and heads to fine leg for four 2.4 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, no run, 144.9 kph, this one is a touch too leg-sidish and is nearly tickled along to the fine leg boundary. Sree gets away with it 2.5 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, no run, 150.8 kph, a bouncer like he means it. Short, and pacy. Kayes thought of rocking back and playing with a horizontal bat, but decided to just arch his back and keep the face out of the way. Zippy. 2.6 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, no run, 150.9 kph, another good ball to end the over, Kayes looks to find some room outside off and free his arms, but Sree cramps him and he crunches it out to cover Bangladesh 21/0 S Sreesanth 2-0-12-0 4.1 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 1 run, 144.0 kph, on middle and leg, hint of inward movement as Tamim plays from the crease to the leg side. Gets a single to midwicket. 4.2 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, FOUR, 147.1 kph, and another boundary, Bangladesh are going after this! Not a bad ball from Sree, short but not very wide, Kayes looks for the slash-cut and gets an inside edge that runs between the off stump and Dhoni, very straight, through fine leg ground for four 4.3 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, (no ball) FOUR, 138.6 kph, he's over-stepped! Scorching inswinger, and Kayes does well to move the feet away and get bat on the flick. And what's more, it is four through square leg. Here comes the free-hit 4.3 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, FOUR, 159.6 kph, Mirpur roars! Sree bangs it short from over the wicket and Kayes seemed to be expecting it. He was back in a flash and swiped it with a mighty swing of the bat through square leg. Very nearly a six. Astounding hit. 4.4 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, no run, 142.3 kph, How boring. Back of a length on off stump from round the wicket, Kayes stays behind the line and defends to the off side 4.5 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, FOUR, 88.4 kph, Kayes Kayoes Sree! Shot of the innings so far. Sree did not over-pitch this. He did not drop it short. He landed this back of a length and gave Kayes a sliver of width outside off. Kayes just plonked the front foot across and drilled this over the covers. Fury unleashed. 4.6 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, 5 wides, Sree has lost it. He's slipped another big inswinger well down the leg side and it speeds away for five wides 4.6 Sreesanth to Imrul Kayes, 1 run, 142.7 kph, 24 runs off the over, Kayes stays back and gets a thick outside edge as he looks to steer and gets a single to third man. Bangladesh 51/0 S Sreesanth 3-0-36-0 29.1 Sreesanth to Shakib Al Hasan, 1 run, 148.4 kph, starts with a length ball outside off, driven towards deep cover for a single 29.2 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 1 run, 155.6 kph, slightly short, there's width on offer, chopped hard but straight to deep point 29.3 Sreesanth to Shakib Al Hasan, no run, 158.0 kph, cramps the batsman up with a length ball on offstump, awkwardly played out towards the off side 29.4 Sreesanth to Shakib Al Hasan, 1 run, 152.5 kph, length ball on middle and leg, driven towards mid-on for a single 29.5 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 1 run, 155.8 kph, length ball outside off, jabbed towards backward point 29.6 Sreesanth to Shakib Al Hasan, FOUR, 154.6 kph, a powerful pull from Shakib leaves the man at midwicket on the floor, his dive can't stop the ball and Bangladesh get the boundary they need each over, Sreesanth's poor day continues Bangladesh 169/2 S Sreesanth 4-0-44-0 31.1 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 2 runs, far too much width from Sreesanth, lashed to deep cover with ease 31.2 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, no run, 158.7 kph, length ball angling into off, driven down towards short cover 31.3 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 2 runs, 155.1 kph, short of lengthy, whipped off the backfoot towards deep square leg, Zaheer and Munaf combine to field that one 31.4 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 1 run, 135.4 kph, looks to power that one on the up, mishits it towards long-on, he was looking to muscle it through the off 31.5 Sreesanth to Shakib Al Hasan, 3 runs, 155.2 kph, a strange shot that, shortish ball on legstump that is paddle-pulled towards short fine leg, should have been only a single, but Zaheer misfielded to give away a couple of extra runs 31.6 Sreesanth to Tamim Iqbal, 1 run, 158.0 kph, on the pads, tucked towards LOOK AT THE SPEEDS.