therocky Posted March 14, 2011 Posted March 14, 2011 He missed the Ireland match so will he play against India? I can't imagine what he will do to nehra/chawla.
Sachinism Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 WICB Expose on Chris Gayle issue : Both side of stories This site is like the wikileaks of WI cricket http://wicbexpose.com/ Worth checking out to see all the BS going on behind the scenes
Sachinism Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 http://wicbexpose.com/2011/04/21/speaking-truth-to-power/ Listen to Gayle's interviews here :OMG:
Params7 Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Yup Gayle's interviews are heartbraking. There's so much politics and bull **** going on with WICB that they can challenge PCB for being the most corrupt board.
Serani Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Although I would love to see Gayle back for WI, It would not be so bad if there is a fresh start with new players who are more hungry for success than he is. There is more talent in WI than most countries, look at Roach, Bravo, Barath, Bishoo etc its just they keep being ruined by the politics and never reach potential. Also, Sammy gots to go asap.
Sachin=GOD Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Although I would love to see Gayle back for WI, It would not be so bad if there is a fresh start with new players who are more hungry for success than he is. There is more talent in WI than most countries, look at Roach, Bravo, Barath, Bishoo etc its just they keep being ruined by the politics and never reach potential. Also, Sammy gots to go asap. This.
Serani Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Sammy will hopefully resign, I know that when matches being played in Jamaica he going to get booed big time, although pretty harsh it would hopefully have the desired outcome.
Cricket Tragic Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Gayle is a waste of space. It's no point having a guy who doesn't give a ****, no matter how good he is.
Ultimate_Game Posted April 22, 2011 Posted April 22, 2011 Although I would love to see Gayle back for WI' date=' It would not be so bad if there is a fresh start with new players who are more hungry for success than he is. [b']There is more talent in WI than most countries, look at Roach, Bravo, Barath, Bishoo etc its just they keep being ruined by the politics and never reach potential. Also, Sammy gots to go asap. If you think there's "lots of talent" in WI cricket you are only deluding yourself. Barath is nothing special and hasn't done anything of note, Bishoo has only played a couple of games so no idea how he's gonna turn out, Bravo looks good but he throws his wkt away cheaply is no different from the likes of Rohit Sharma. Roach is the only one I am excited about as he has the potential to be one of the better bowlers and hope he doesn't go the Mervyn Dillon, Frank Rose, Collymore way. WI cannot afford to lose the talent of Gayle's class. Even Aus is reluctant to show likes of Ponting the door which they would have done in early 2000s. WI are already irrelevant and losing Gayle will simply fast-track the process.
Stuge Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Sammy has been pathetic with bat and ball .Don't know why he is even captain of the team :| Regarding Gayle is concerned ,they seriously need a player of such experience and class .It isn't easy to groom new players without having experience in the team .
Sachin=GOD Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 If you think there's "lots of talent" in WI cricket you are only deluding yourself. Barath is nothing special and hasn't done anything of note, Bishoo has only played a couple of games so no idea how he's gonna turn out, Bravo looks good but he throws his wkt away cheaply is no different from the likes of Rohit Sharma. Roach is the only one I am excited about as he has the potential to be one of the better bowlers and hope he doesn't go the Mervyn Dillon, Frank Rose, Collymore way. WI cannot afford to lose the talent of Gayle's class. Even Aus is reluctant to show likes of Ponting the door which they would have done in early 2000s. WI are already irrelevant and losing Gayle will simply fast-track the process. There is talent in the West Indies. Its just a question of giving it the right direction which sadly is missing in WI cricket right now.
Serani Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 If you think there's "lots of talent" in WI cricket you are only deluding yourself. Barath is nothing special and hasn't done anything of note, Bishoo has only played a couple of games so no idea how he's gonna turn out, Bravo looks good but he throws his wkt away cheaply is no different from the likes of Rohit Sharma. Roach is the only one I am excited about as he has the potential to be one of the better bowlers and hope he doesn't go the Mervyn Dillon, Frank Rose, Collymore way. WI cannot afford to lose the talent of Gayle's class. Even Aus is reluctant to show likes of Ponting the door which they would have done in early 2000s. WI are already irrelevant and losing Gayle will simply fast-track the process. Well if you look at U19 cricket then WI is always one of the top teams, just now they beat Aus in a series, yet these players that seem to do well at age group cricket turn out to be mediocre first class players and not good enough for tests.
Karan114 Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Well if you look at U19 cricket then WI is always one of the top teams' date=' just now they beat Aus in a series, yet these players that seem to do well at age group cricket turn out to be mediocre first class players and not good enough for tests.[/quote'] Isn't that the case for most u-19 teams around the world? There are, at best, two or three players from most u-19 sides who tend to be really successful at Test level, the rest aren't good enough or don't even make it that far. India won the u-19 World Cup in 2000 and out of that side only Yuvraj, Ratra and Kaif made it to Test cricket, and all three of them failed to succeed though Yuvraj is at least a world class ODI player.
achilles Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 This website has WIPA written all over it. In this dog-eat-dog world, I hope the WIPA, after achieving what they plan to with this website, don't turn into v2.0 of the WICB. And amidst all this, it is the fan who gets robbed. Players want to go their way, the administration, the other. Does anyone even care a crap about what a West Indies cricket supporter want?
Sachinism Posted April 23, 2011 Posted April 23, 2011 Transcript of the Gayle interview "No one called me and said anything" before or after the headlines that said "Gayle dropped". - "The ONLY communication was my physio CJ message got a BBM from me updating him on my progress. I never got a fitness program from him" - "I was forced to make this decision based on what was happening around me. Based on what happened to Sarwan and Chanderpaul. I wanted to play. I wanted to represented West Indies. That was my ultimate goal. Based on what was happening, I had to make that decision. An opportunity presented itself... a T20 squad was named, an ODI squad was named... listen, I had no other choice but to take the IPL contract." - "As soon as I asked for NOC. Everything mashup! Email start coming in left and right." - "I got a note from CEO to sign the World CUp contract. I replied to CEO asking if WIPA approved of the contract. The reply from CEO, copied by all three selectors and coach and lawyer and CEO himself... stating that we have someone on standby, if you don't sign this contract, you will be replaced for the World Cup. That eat me out during the World Cup." - "I'm the perfect target for them. They want to get rid of me. They want to get rid of WIPA. That's all this is about... to get rid of WIPA." - "I called a meeting with the coach and team to ask if he said bad things about me... That was my last game as captain. He denied all this. I didn't know all these things were written about me b this coach. If there is one coach that got my all, it was Ottis Gibson." - "I don't know what they trying. They turn to Bravo now. They gave him the vice captain. They take away the captain from me and they take away the VC from Bravo... now they gone back to Bravo... I don't know what they trying." ‎- "They say they have unproductive talk with Chris Gayle. I wrote to board, asked board for simple NOC for Big Bash and IPL. I never heard from there. Sri Lanka tour came up, I got a triple hundred in the Test match. THe CEO then called askign waht I wanted to do pertaining to IPL. I said I'd love to play full IPL. CEO said "no, that can't work..." - "In SL, when I got the triple century. I said to myself that I'll give Test cricket a break. I was going through a lot. I was going back and forth in my mind. Pressure was piling up. I didn't make any decision. I didn't know what CEO discussed with Bravo and Pollard. I didn't know their productive talk with 'the doctor'." - "Just before the IPL auction, I got an email from teh CEO if I'm retiring from Test cricket. I found that very strange. IT sounded like he wanted me to retire so he can continue to screw me over." - "They want to question me about my commitment to WI cricket. We bruk finger and bat. You know who is the most hardcore cricketer for West INdies?!?!? You know who that is.... Chris Gayle." - "They threatening players. They're using the fitness thing to threaten players. You can make ten ducks in a row and still make the team... as long as you fit like a fiddle... That's the system they have now... Fitness, fitness, fitness..." - "every coach come with the same format... fitness, fitness, fitness... 24/7. Man to man, Australia team no fitter than we. You think India fitter than we?" "Ah joke Coach Ottis Gibson ah mek!" - "Wavell played the T20 World Cup. He was 32 yrs. The coach look to him and say Wavell, you too old, yu not in my program. Two days later, Dale Richards came in .. and he's older than Wavell." - "My bat do my talking. You check the stats. That's how I survived for so long... You check the stats.." ‎- "I was called into a room in front of all the selectors... people in front of computers... asking why I didn't sign (retainer)contract. I told them it did not sound right. The contract covers everything from WI cricket to local club cricket. If Lucas want me to play, I can't go and play nowhere else. The contract ties me down to everything... to WI, to Jamaica, to club level..." "The WICB can stop me from everything... they can determine every move I make." - "I didn't sign the retainer because I didn't want to be bogged down. They have someone on the computer taking minutes. They can publish it publicly and let people see what my explanation was." - "I wanted to go and captain the team at the World Cup. I was in a meeting and they begged me to take it. Before SA series, Ottis Gibson had jsut come on board. Gibson begged me to stay as captain." - "That's why I couldn't believe those things he (Gibson) said about me. He saying I lacked leadership. But he was the bwling coach of England and he knew he was getting the WI job. He *begged* me to stay as captain." "He was saying "Stay Chris, I'm coming..." - "The coach is a user. That's what he is. He is a user." - "I hope this interview is going all over the world. I'm clearing my name. Don't come putting me as a bad apple." - "Another thing... as much as people want to look at WIPA as bad. Current players and players to come in teh future, if there's no WIPA, y'all are going to suffer." "Yall should thank WIPA. WIPA has done a lot for players locally, internationally, grassroots..." "Players literally come to me..they don't know nothing about WIPA. They asking me about WIPA... saying that board members complain and saying they shouldn't get involved with WIPA." - "Ramnarine has done everything to educate the players. But the players listen to board members. Players should thank WIPA for everything." - "You think that if I didn't get an IPL contract.. you think I would get a layaway like Pollard and Bravo?... Them say they will side with those two... and show up Chris Gayle..." - "The CEO had a discussion with the players... he was cursing Pollard, saying he was money-hungry... He asked Pollard if 2020 was real cricket." - "Who the people want to come watch? Nuh Chris Gayle?" "Dem can't trick me" - "Me and Sarwan sit down and talk after the World Cup. Sarwan was messed up mentally. The coach messed up the man mentally. The players were not in the right frame of mind." - "Sarwan was batting without a free mind. Players told me they lost confidence. No confidence at all. A player speak his mind in team meeting openly... The player said his piece... After that, he never play a World Cup match. But me talk with my mouth and me talk with my bat." - "We won a couple of series in between. I beat him when he was coach (of England). I can't sleep properly. I need to get this off my chest. I want everybody to print what I said, I want to clear the air and I want them to ease up. WICB, back up offa my back." - "I'm available for selection for West Indies. I'm still the hardest fighting cricket for WI. Me willing fe dead out for WI cricket. Some things I do, nuff players never do yet." "One leg, me tek injection, and still go mek runs. Tek catch with one hand. Nuff man sit down and **** up dem foot." - "I wasn't selected for IPL originally at auction because of email that was being sent that Chris Gayle won't be available..." - "I respect Sammy long time. But it was not the right time for him to be captain. He wasn't cemented in the team. It created animosity in the team within the final XI. We could never get the balance right. In the ODI format, it messed up the XI (to play Sammy)" - "Why do they want to stop my earning? I see things publish in the media..on the internet... about what they are "erning - "I cna't stop bigging up WIPA. WIPA mek we eat food... mek we contract in order. WIPA is 24/7 in the corner for WI players. Players need to understand that. If it wasn't for WIPA, you'd still be earning $2.00 for first class players." - "THey don't like Ramnarine because him talk the truth. They don't like the truth. The truth always hurts." - "I'm not boasting or anything. Whether I'm captain or not, I can still get the best out of players. The respect level is still high. Whether I am captain or not." - "Stop putting too much pressure on the players. Give them some leeway. Every particular coach come thru... focus on one thing only.. the physical part. I see it as a punishment. We lose test match, we get 20 laps. You have to do 20 laps around the field." - "You can't have people running up and down like dem a fool..." - "They making too much press release now. Nobody knows what Chris thinking. They going overboard now, putting out all kinds of releases. So I decided to clear the air."
Serani Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Isn't that the case for most u-19 teams around the world? There are' date=' at best, two or three players from most u-19 sides who tend to be really successful at Test level, the rest aren't good enough or don't even make it that far. India won the u-19 World Cup in 2000 and out of that side only Yuvraj, Ratra and Kaif made it to Test cricket, and all three of them failed to succeed though Yuvraj is at least a world class ODI player.[/quote'] Yes obviously U-19 players are never always going to be a success, however WI always seem to have players that are brilliant at U19 yet turn out to be complete flops. Either way WI outperforming Aus again http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/current/match/505134.html Kraigg Brathwaite is another one destined for greatness since he was 14 lets see how he goes, 168*
rajmarie Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 IMO...I will like Gayle to retire from Intl cricket...he does squat for WI cricket. He is just not hungry...TEAM for him mean...ME. Same goes for other seniors like Chanders & Sarwan. They should play in their domestic teams or T20 around the world. WI cricket needs to rebuild....& they need to do it without players who dont understand the concept of TEAM. New players will struggle...but so called seniors also struggled...ALL THE TIME. WI cricket can only go up from where they are...but they will go up...only if guys like Gayle, Sarwan etc are not part of the team. Also when they are not there....WIPA will also stay away...because they are another reason besides WICB that WI cricket is in a stinky mess now.
achilles Posted April 25, 2011 Posted April 25, 2011 Asking Gayle, Chanderpaul & Sarwan to leave is like India asking Sachin, Dravid & Laxman to leave almost together. Its a highly risky proposition. A team without a senior guiding them is like firing a missile without setting the target.
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