theguyinallblue Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Emergency in Pak? Conditions ripe: Information minister http://www.rediff.com/news/2007/aug/09pak.htm Speculation was rife in Islamabad on Wednesday night that emergency might be imposed in Pakistan at any time in the wake of the volatile situation in the country's north-western parts bordering Afghanistan, infested by Taliban and Al Qaeda [Images] militants, after a senior minister said the condition was ripe for the measure. Minister of State for Information Tariq Azim told private Geo television channel that the condition was ripe for emergency and the government is seriously considering the measure, which however has not been imposed so far. Azim's remarks about emergency came after President Pervez Musharraf [Images] held a series of high-level meetings through the day on Wednesday discussing the option of using the measure. Musharraf is reported to have put off his decision to clamp emergency till Thursday, Geo TV announced. While continued attacks by militants and threats by the US to carry out direct attacks on tribal areas in north-western part of the country, were being cited for possible imposition of emergency, the move is being considered ahead of the Supreme Court taking up the petitions of former prime minister Nawaz Sharif and his brother Shahbaz to return home from forced exile. Geo TV earlier reported quoting unnamed sources that a high-level meeting presided by Musharraf decided to declare emergency in the country for one month that could be extended upto three months. The meeting reviewed the current political situation and various options regarding changes in the political set up came under discussion, it said. Pakistan Muslim League president Chaudhry Shujaat also reportedly told women parliamentarians of the party during a reception hosted by him at his residence that emergency is likely to be declared, the channel said. The speaker of the National Assembly was also called at the reception in which he was consulted regarding in the case of an emergency how it could be approved by the National Assembly. Pakistan Tribune Web site said Musharraf was consulting his associates and legal experts about emergency. It said some of his associates advised him to go for limited emergency. However, the biggest worry for Musharraf is the sharp reaction that could come from lawyers who had waged a strident anti-government agitation pressing for withdrawal of suspension of Mohammed Iftikhar Chaudhry as chief justice. Musharraf is also taking into account the response of the opposition parties, the portal said adding, Attorney General Malik Qayyum and legal expert Sharifuddin Pirzada have already met the president and Prime Minister Shaukat Aziz. Azim pointed to the threat to carry out direct attacks on tribal areas against the Al Qaeda and the serious situation there with persistent attacks on Pakistani troops by suspected pro-Taliban mlitants. He also pointed to the attacks against the nationals of China, a close ally of Pakistan. Speculation mounted after Musharraf cancelled at the last minute his proposed visit to Kabul to take part in the Pakistan-Afghan tribal jirga to start on Thursday. Prominent lawyer Aitzaz Ahesan, who defended Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry leading to his reinstatement, said the conditions in Pakistan did not warrant the imposition of emergency. "Emergency, if at all imposed, should be imposed by an act of Parliament," he said adding, any such move by Musharraf will be opposed by lawyers and challenged in the Supreme Court. Self-exiled former prime minister Benazir Bhutto [Images] said that any attempt to impose Emergency will be deemed as a "negative" step. "It will be retrograde step for efforts to restore democracy in Pakistan," she said. Abdul Qayyum said he was not aware of any attempt to impose a state of emergency and he believed that the situation did not warrant it. Even if it is imposed, it would not affect Musharraf's plan to get re-elected as president between September 15 and October 15 by the present Assemblies, he said. Emergency was imposed in Pakistan in 1998 in the aftermath of the tit-for-tat nuclear tests carried out by Pakistan in response to Indian nuclear tests. The then president Rafiq Tarar on the recommendation of the then prime minister Nawaz Sharif had imposed emergency during which all fundamental rights were suspended. Musharraf seized power in a bloodless coup in October 1999 and imposed martial law. will it affect India? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 what took mushy this long Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 mushy talked to condi rice today .. news is big boss has given his nod through condi.. pakistan should stop pretending to be sovereign :haha: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Dunno if it will affect India hugely. It will affect Pakistan and pakistani people massively. Civil liberties will be curbed, press freedom attacked. Pakistan is moving further and further away from a being a stable democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtest Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 When was there any Civil Liberty in Pukistan for non-Muslims.......there is an un-official Sharia even if Mushy tries to charm Amreeka, showing his "moderate" face. Sharia and Civil liberty are opposite to each other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 A vast majority of Pakistanis ( mostly of those living in the cities) have almost the same civil liberties as Indians. You would be naive to think there is Taliban style junta going on in Pakistan. Now , even that section of the society will be hit by the emergency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtest Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 ^^ I am specifically talking about non-Muslims like Hindus, Budhists and Christians-- their dwindling number- and their condition. These "non-Muslims" are less than a minority. What "vast majority" of Pukes you are talking about are all ROPers --- for them Sharia or Talibani type rigid law is NO problem-- it only enhances their belief of earning more rewards by following their beloved "peace loving" Prophets Sunnah and law that was practiced 1400 years ago in Arabia. But for non-Muslims have to live like Dhimmis, whatever "modern' cities you might assume. -- They can't carry out their religious processions for the fear of attack -- they can't preach their religion in public --they can't convert a willing ROPer, if that happens, instant death is a must --- yes Pukistani official Law ensures that any ROPer if converts even willfully to kuffar faith has to face death sentence. Forget about non-Muslims even Shia Muslims and their Mosques have been bombed on regular basis by fanatic wahhabis, under full knowledge of ISI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 I accept most of what you say. But , how does the imposition of emergency change their situation in anyway ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtest Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 :haha: Marris --- that is why my original question was --- When was there any Civil Liberty in Pukistan for non-Muslims Let's agree, Emergency or No-emergency life is going to be same for non-Muslim minorities of Pakistan. They have to live under the shadow of "peaceful" Sharia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ram Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Let's agree, Emergency or No-emergency life is going to be same for non-Muslim minorities of Pakistan. They have to live under the shadow of "peaceful" Sharia. Yes i agree to that actually. Its a time tough thing being a religious minority in a state that is NOT secular. This holds true for not only pakistan , but also other such countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THX_1138 Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 When was there any Civil Liberty in Pukistan for non-Muslims.......there is an un-official Sharia even if Mushy tries to charm Amreeka, showing his "moderate" face. Sharia and Civil liberty are opposite to each other Sandtest bro, Pakistan is arguably in dire straits, is there really any reason to belittle them any more with words such as "Pukistan"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaurav Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Pakistan has stepped back from imposing emergency rule, after mounting speculation that President Pervez Musharraf was considering the move. A spokesman said there was pressure on Gen Musharraf to declare an emergency but that he had decided not to because he was "committed to democracy". Kitna nautanki walla hai yeah Mushhy g@ndu. All this drama to hold on to power. Nice outfit president...I mean General...I mean Dictator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dada_rocks Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 U won't believe once he chimed in usa over some news of coup while he was in america. "Pakistan is not banana republic where someone cud orchetsrate coup just like that" yes he said that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sandtest Posted August 9, 2007 Share Posted August 9, 2007 Sandtest bro' date=' Pakistan is arguably in dire straits, is there really any reason to belittle them any more with words such as "Pukistan"?[/quote'] Ok, bhai, that is sarcasm taken in wrong sense I guess :D Anyway, have you heard those "respectful" terms that Pakis use for us...:cantstop: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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