Cold hard numbers ... the response

[bharat297]

Tendulkar's last 10 matches against Australia ... 211 runs at an average of 21.1 Now, A certain Australian's stats against India ... Past 10 matches 291 runs at an average of 29.10. Not a great difference if you look at the fact that Tendulkar's last 10 matches involved 2 comebacks from injury. Any guesses for who the aussie player is? I'll give you a hint ... his surname starts with a 'P' and ends with an 'onting'. Anyone prepared to say Australia should drop Ponting?

[Yuvraj4Captaincy]

1) The average of 29 -30 is still higher than 21. 2) Ponting is an awesome fielder. The amount of runs he save is the amount of runs tendy give in the fielding. So that makes a hige difference 3) Pontings leadership skills are exceptional. 4) Ponting is on rise and he will be there for next worldcup.. and so on... Thankyou very much and come again

[Yuvraj4Captaincy]

Last match ponting was also comign back from injury.

[Yuvraj4Captaincy]

and what he did to us in the worldcup final still gives nightmares to plenty of indians.......nuff said the innings only he can play in the final of such a big tournament... no comparison here.

[bharat297]

First of all, Ponting's leadership skills are reasonably good ... not excellent, but still good. Australia lost some matches earlier this year without Ponting, but they were also missing Gilchrist, Symonds and Lee too. Ponting inherited a world no.1 team. Ponting will be 36 going on 37, at the next world cup. This is the 2nd time this year Ponting has had a lower-back/hamstring injury. not 100% guaranteed to be there, but he most likely will. Sachin is not a bad fielder. He is very safe in the slips and has an exceptionally strong arm from the outfield. He has one of the safest pair of hands in the Indian team. And now when all else fails ... lets compare the leadership skills of a captain with someone who is not a captain. Thats certainly valid. I have an idea, lets compare Sachin's bowling with Ponting's

[living]

and what he did to us in the worldcup final still gives nightmares to plenty of indians.......nuff said the innings only he can play in the final of such a big tournament... no comparison here.

Overrated innings. FLAT pitch, and when you bat first entirely possible. Don't forgot its the same ground where that stupid 400+ match took place.

[The Outsider]

:hysterical::hysterical: LOL!! Not much difference between 20 and 30. What next? Not much difference between Ganguly and Gavaskar?

[novpj]

:hysterical::hysterical: LOL!! Not much difference between 20 and 30. What next? Not much difference between Ganguly and Gavaskar?

:haha::haha::haha: what you expect maharathi worshippers to be fact based - they live in an alternate rality one where their heros are improving with age only the runs dont show it. If everything fails lets say that we have a young team so we need 3 seniors with deteriorating skills to guide them irrespective of the fact that these seniors sulk and dont seem to be involved in the game

[Bumper]

Even if you consider only the last 10 games, Ponting scores in the games that matter, our seniors dont. In the ICC CT elimination game, Ponting scored 58. In the VB series finals he scored 88. And if you consider the last 15 games, he knocked a brilliant ton in the WC finals. And Ponting is on the rise, his avg will only get better against us. Give me Pointing any day over our over-the-hill seniors.

[Mandrake]

This series against the Aussies should be the final thing as far as the trio is concerned....with those kind of stats the writing seems to be on the wall.

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[talksport]

Australia has more Match Winners .... Two Perform with Bat and Two with Ball almost every match

[Bumper]

The case for playing seniors ahead of the juniors is precisely for situations like this. When the opponents are big, you need more experience to conquer them. As it is we arent doing that, so there is really no case for playing the seniors anymore. We exited the world cup, lost a series to the worst ODI side in the world & are on our way to losing another one here, all presided over by our seniors. Even a dimwit can see a pattern here. Kick these guys out & invest in youth

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[Bumper]

you conveniently forget our Win against SAF and how Eng had beaten Aus in Aus .... why is that Bumps ?

Which one stands out ? A world cup humiliation or a 2-1 win over SAF ? If we had whooped the mediocre English ODI team 6-1 or 5-2, I could see that we are progressing as a ODI team. But we arent. And England winning a ODI series in Aus, is a blip in their ODI fortunes. They promptly went back to their mediocre ways in the world cup. You saw how England was beaten by good teams in the world cup ? Thats how bad they are. Not being able to win ODIs consistently against most teams, implies we arent making any noticeable progress. In the mean time, our youth brigade won the first ever 20/20 world cup beating the who's who of ODI cricket.

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[siddhu]

i wil post the same thing i did in the other thread (to increase my post count...:wink_smile:) And these are the stats for a certain SG (:wink_smile:) in his last 10 matches against Australia. filtered 10 172 82 21.50 0 1 3 3/41 37.00 0 4 0 Not defending, either Sachin or Dravid, their stats are apalling but then why just castigate them where as the whole team has choked against Australia.

[MundaPakistani]

Its not a blip .... what it says is in the shorter forms of the game anyone can beat anyone .... you have been witness to how SL went from being # 2 to #7 and back to #5 or whatever it is in the span of 2 yrs .... thats the nature of the game .... you cannot take the results too seriously ... they have not much meaning.

This has happened in the longer version of the game too PAK jumped from #7 to #2 and have now fallen back to #6. All in a space of 18 months.

[Bumper]

Its not a blip .... what it says is in the shorter forms of the game anyone can beat anyone .... you have been witness to how SL went from being # 2 to #7 and back to #5 or whatever it is in the span of 2 yrs .... thats the nature of the game .... you cannot take the results too seriously ... they have not much meaning.

If anybody can beat anybody, why arent we beating Australia ? Why arent we consistently beating other teams ? Why are we consistently losing in all big games that matter ? (ICC CT, world cup, Malaysian trophy etc)

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