SRT the energizer bunny

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Dude..have you EVER seen SCG bat ? why so blatent twistings of facts ? Gangoo's style is dot,dot,dot,dot, FOUR, dot, dot, dot, ONE,dot,dot,dot, FOUR, dot,dot.....Thats how he starts off his innings 9/10 times!

A better line of argument would be the number of runs scored by Ganguly and Sachin by boundaries per LOI. Ganguly = 18.2 Sachin = 19.5 Yeah a grand difference of 1 runs per innings!! :hysterical: xxx

[Bongosamaj]

A better line of argument would be the number of runs scored by Ganguly and Sachin by boundaries per LOI. Ganguly = 18.2 Sachin = 19.5 Yeah a grand difference of 1 runs per innings!! :hysterical: xxx

And a slightly better analysis would've led you to see my point.I am talking about how Gangoo starts- he gets into his groove once he lasts 4-5 overs or so. I am saying in the 70s/80s with field set apart and on tougher pitches, Gangoo would have a harder time getting set!

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And a slightly better analysis would've led you to see my point.I am talking about how Gangoo starts- he gets into his groove once he lasts 4-5 overs or so. I am saying in the 70s/80s with field set apart and on tougher pitches, Gangoo would have a harder time getting set!

fair enough. I was actually showing someone who was wondering why SCG's SR is so low when he hits boundary. My logic was SCG hits as much boundary as SRT does, there is no co-relation between boundaries and SCG. Indeed if a deeper analysis was done I would say SCG starts fast, hits boundary consistently and then gets bogged down later.

[Bongosamaj]

Lets see ... he played against the Aussies while Lille and Thommo were there together for a grand sum of 12 innings ... and in those innings either Lille or Thommo rarely got beat like how Akhtar and Blee get thulped ... meaning they rarely ever went over 6 rpo .. Lilles worst figues were 10/54 and thommo 10/60

yes..because Lillee/thommo > Akhtar and pitches back then were tougher. DUH!

but when you are determined to not let the facts get in your way I guess nothing matters ...

Pffft..says the LIAR who LIED about West Indies not winning vs pakistan 'in their lifetimes' just to prove his assinine point right.

bottom line is Viv thulped the crap out of the second string bowlers of his time ... and name list is something like this :

Chatfield and Lawson would WALK into India's attack any day of the week, son.

[Gaurav]

Bradman never missed a Tendulkar innings in last five years August 16, 2001 Sir Donald Bradman was first impressed by Sachin Tendulkar while watching a one-day game against Australia in the 1996 World Cup and never missed a chance to see an innings from the Indian maestro after that, the book 'Bradman's Best' reveals. "Australia won (that match) but not before a stunning 90 from Tendulkar that captured the Don's attention," the book, which chronicles each of the 12 members of the 'Dream Team' selected by Bradman, says in the chapter 'The Star of India'. The book, authored by Roland Perry which has seen just half a day in the shops, has already become a best-seller with a strong response reported from buyers. "He was most taken in by Tendulkar's technique, compactness and his shot production and had asked his wife to have a look at the Indian as he felt that Tendulkar played like he had. Jessie agreed that they appeared similar. "Bradman never missed a chance to see Tendulkar from then until the end of the 1999 three-match Test series in Australia," the book says. "Bradman ranked Brian Lara and Tendulkar as the best batsmen in the world and found it difficult to judge who was better. He thought that Tendulkar had a very sound defence while Lara was marginally more aggressive and took more risks. "By 2000, he held the view that they were the best in world cricket, but that Tendulkar just pipped Lara as the world's number one," it says. Perry adds that by mid-1998, after watching Tendulkar destroy Australia in Tests and one-day games in India, Bradman ranked him with Barry Richards, Arthur Morris and Gary Sobers. "Not long after that series against Australia, Tendulkar received the invitation of a lifetime to join Shane Warne in meeting Bradman at his Kensington Park home in Adelaide on his 90th birthday (August 27, 1998). Tendulkar was honoured to be told by Bradman that he was today's best batsman. They discussed Gary Sobers, whom Bradman had long regarded as the best cricketer of all time," the book reads. On their meeting, Perry writes, "Tendulkar asked Bradman how he prepared himself before a big match. Bradman replied that when he was in Adelaide he would go to his job as a sharebroker for several hours before going to the ground. "Sometimes he would even toss the coin still wearing his suit. After the game he would return to the office for several more hours. When he was playing games away from Adelaide, he would go for a long walk before and after the match. "After the meeting, Bradman told Perry how impressed he was with Tendulkar and how he expected him to go on to even greater achievements. With a little luck, he will have another decade at the top, the Don told Perry. "Sir Don found Sunil Gavaskar a fine technician but thought his chief fault was lack of aggression. Bradman noted, it is not sufficient to keep the ball out of the stumps and not give a catch. There is need to attack, take the initiative from the bowlers and set up conditions for the batsmen to follow. "After the Don stopped South Africa from touring Australia in 1971-72, he had set up alternative teams. The world squad included Sunil Gavaskar, Gary Sobers, FM Engineer, Rohan Kanhai, Zaheer Abbas, Clive Lloyd and Tony Greig," it says. The book also contains a letter by Gavaskar to Tendulkar when the latter failed to win the Mumbai Cricket Associations Best Junior Cricketer Award. "The 'Little Master' commended Tendulkar on his performance and asked him not to be disappointed. Gavaskar wrote, If you look at the best award winners, you will find one name missing and that person has not done too badly in Test cricket!!"

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yes..because Lillee/thommo > Akhtar and pitches back then were tougher. DUH!

Wait. How dare you say that? Didnt you know Lillee is a Western hype who didnt tour India? just beware of whats coming Bongo. :haha:

Chatfield and Lawson would WALK into India's attack any day of the week, son.

Really? Ahead of Madan Lal and Roger Binny. You are such a SKC :eyedance:

[Bongosamaj]

:haha::haha: How could i ever think that a man with 120 wickets @ 32 in 40-odd tests ( btw, better than ANY Indian pacer currently playing with similar/more experience) or a man with 180 @ 30 from 46 (better than any Indian again) won't WALK into our team ? SKC me...jai hind jai hind jai hind.... hahahahahahaha

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[Bongosamaj]

And what about Donald,Pollock,Amby,Walsh,Flintoff,Bond, Gillespie,McGrath,Warne,murli,Vaas,Malinga, Vettori,Saqlain,Waqar,Wasim,Qadir ..

All those bowlers spread over NINE teams. Viv's cast of bowlers : Thommo, Lillee, Imran,Wasim, Qadir, McDermott, Lawson,Botham,Willis,Kapil, Hadlee spread over FIVE teams. Pretty easy to see which bowling period was 'better average quality'.

Doesnt mean anything if at all anything it means they were crap ... bacche ...

It means they were decent bowlers, sonny. PS: What happened to your LIE getting exposed in the Viv vs Lillee thread ? Too much of a coward to admit your own error ? I thought brave ones like you don't run away like a coward!

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So in other words we would never know how SRT would perform if he was not an opener? Wait a minute, here are his numbers when he does NOT open. 10.2@ 3, 38@4, 28.4@5. Any points for guessing why the chap wants to open all the time?

He just plays better as an opener. I wouldn't read too much into those figures, BTW. He only played 10 matches at #3. At #4 and #5, he played more than half of those matches in the first few seasons after he made his debut, hence the lower averages - he was still developing. For what it's worth, he scored plenty of runs at #4 once he was established in the Indian side and began approaching his peak. When he was captain for the SA tour in '96 he demoted himself and if you look at the stats from that time 'til now, you will see that he scored 1227 runs @ 44. So based on that, I don't think he would have been as successful batting in the middle order as he was as an opener (as an opener, he averages nearly 50) but he would have been really successful nonetheless.

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So based on that, I don't think he would have been as successful batting in the middle order as he was as an opener (as an opener, he averages nearly 50) but he would have been really successful nonetheless.

And that was my argument anyway. That while I have seen Sachin explode right off the blocks I have yet to see him do the same in death overs(generally speaking of course). Since Powerplay and fielding restrictions happen in early part of the game it is prudent to say Sachin as an opener benefits from that. On the other hand Viv would explode at the start or at the death. xxx

[Bongosamaj]

and here are some more Maharathis from that era who bowled a lot and got spanked by Viv ... I guess they could also walk into the Indian side as bowlers ...:hysterical: TM Chappell MF Malone DW Hookes AR Border JM Wiener

What a twist going on here ! Quoting part-timers ? As if Tendy never faced part-timers ? The point is, Viv's era of bowling was harder than Tendy's era of bowling, ie, their top 3-4 bowlers in general of better quality. DEAL with it, instead of getting jingoistic about something silly as cricket. Viv faced Australia- who had just as good an attack under Lillee-Thommo as Aussies of Tendy's era and after Lillee-Thommo, their bowling was still better than any other save AUS/RSA/PAK of Tendy's times. Then they had PAK- every bit as good as PAK of Tendy's times. England was better than England now and behind only RSA-AUS-PAK-WI of Tendy's era. India was better than India today, equivalent of a Sri Lanka/New Zealand today. Only easy team was SL,against whom Viv hardly played much. PS: Why are you running away from your lie, champ ? Champion at twisting and running away ? is that it? It is clear as daylight that Viv > Tendy in ODIs.

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And actually most of his 41 hundreds have a SR of over 100% which goes to show that he invariably ups the tempo when he plays a long innings ...

Everyone ups the tempo when they play a long innings, dummy. Its called 'GETTING SET'. DUH! Do you understand/watch any cricket or do you lie about that too like your four degrees ?

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Presenting 15 x 90s and 10 x 80s at a strike rate of 90 ... (as are the rest of his 86 50s ) And actually most of his 41 hundreds have a SR of over 100% which goes to show that he invariably ups the tempo when he plays a long innings ...

It is not about Sachin's ability to score heavily at a high SR, is it? I mean that is well accepted fact. The point here is comparison with Viv Richards. I say Viv Richards was more all-around explosive batsman capable of upping the ante in early part of the game as also the death overs. You disagree?

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