Sachin=GOD Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 Now need Congress to fiht separately and we can divide more votes. Majhi plus Pappu Yadav plus Congress can poll around 15% votes i believe. I don't think Cong will go with such small parties. Either go alone or with Janata Parivar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 25, 2015 Share Posted April 25, 2015 what we need is pappu yadav to take a big section of Yadav leaders from the rjd with him. Thats going to really weaken lalu. Even if they win it will lead to him playing second fiddle to Nitish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 seems nitish is sulking after not being included in the samajwadi janata dal parliamentary affairs committee. Did not attend Lalu's rally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 seems nitish is sulking after not being included in the samajwadi janata dal parliamentary affairs committee. Did not attend Lalu's rally. There is no reason for them to include Nitish , he don't have any specific vote bank of his own.He tried to develop Mahadalt vote bank,which is now gone with Manjhi. Unless he is offered CM candidature in next election his political career is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 seems nitish is sulking after not being included in the samajwadi janata dal parliamentary affairs committee. Did not attend Lalu's rally. There is no reason for them to include Nitish , he don't have any specific vote bank of his own.He tried to develop Mahadalt vote bank,which is now gone with Manjhi. Unless he is offered CM candidature in next election his political career is over. Absolutely foolish not to include him. He and Lalu are the only leaders the Janata Parivar has in Bihar. Also, Nitish has been a pretty good CM (except the last few months). Should be there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 also notice nitish after being sidelined has praised modi. So whenever he appears to be sidelined Nitish praises modi to remind the yadavs that he has options? apparently this committee will decide who gets the tickets for all samajwadi janata dal all over india. It looks like many Jd(u) sitting MLA's will not get tickets. So either they will need to go via the mlc route or fight as independents or join the bjp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 also notice nitish after being sidelined has praised modi. So whenever he appears to be sidelined Nitish praises modi to remind the yadavs that he has options? apparently this committee will decide who gets the tickets for all samajwadi janata dal all over india. It looks like many Jd(u) sitting MLA's will not get tickets. So either they will need to go via the mlc route or fight as independents or join the bjp. Yes. Nitish is keeping his options open in case they sideline him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Absolutely foolish not to include him. He and Lalu are the only leaders the Janata Parivar has in Bihar. Also' date=' Nitish has been a pretty good CM (except the last few months). Should be there.[/quote'] This is an opportunistic alliance,so what matters most is who pulls more votes. Even though Nitish is good CM he doesn't have charisma to pull major vote banks. Another thiung is in Bihar Lalu family is more powerful so they dont have a place for another person. As i already wrote unless he is made CM candidate before election,he is done. I dont feel bad at all for his situation,his ego became bigger than him obviously he is facing the issues now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 its a pretty dumb way to do it. If he does go back to the bjp alliance he will have to be junior partner. I really dont know what he achieved. He took a gamble of going alone to establish himself on his own. It failed badly. Should have accepted his defeat and gone back to the BJP. Its like he suffered a wound and his pouring poison over it. Even if the janata pariwar win there is a good chance he might be sidelined long term. Atleast is going back to the BJP he would have maintained his Jd(u) flock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Yes. Nitish is keeping his options open in case they sideline him. Advani is not running show for BJP now ,so the only option he have is to go to Con party :winky: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 The RJD has accepted the leadership of Bihar chief minister Kumar, but there is little agreement on anything else. JD(U) members want to contest all the 115 seats the party had won in the last assembly elections. The RJD wants to contest an equal number of seats, leaving very little for the Congress, which is backing the new entity. The assembly has a total of 243 seats. “We will contest on all the seats that JD(U) won in 2010 assembly poll,†said a senior JD(U) leader involved in talks with the RJD. He requested anonymity. A senior RJD leader played down the differences even as he admitted their existence. “Every such alliance, and this is a merger, has seat-sharing issues, and ours is no different, specially in this case where both the RJD and the JD(U) are equally important parties in the state,†said this person, who also spoke on condition of anonymity. Both parties knew what they were getting into, this person added. He sees the eventual math as thus: “100 for the RJD, 100 for the JD (U), and the rest between the Congress, the CPM (Communist Party of India-Marxist), and the others.†http://www.livemint.com/Politics/15aLWxfgkpgvA2XGURQL6I/Bihar-polls-Differences-emerge-in-Janata-Parivar.html RJD is looking at 100 (Jd(u) and RJD) 30 Congress and 13 for the left front. Jd(u) is looking at 115 Jd(u) 100 RJD and 28 Congress with nothing for the left front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Haha....this was bound to happen. Huge conflicts for seat sharing. Some big leaders will inevitably have to give up their seats - that's an opportunity for Manjhi etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 its a pretty dumb way to do it. If he does go back to the bjp alliance he will have to be junior partner. I really dont know what he achieved. He took a gamble of going alone to establish himself on his own. It failed badly. Should have accepted his defeat and gone back to the BJP. Its like he suffered a wound and his pouring poison over it. Even if the janata pariwar win there is a good chance he might be sidelined long term. Atleast is going back to the BJP he would have maintained his Jd(u) flock If Janata Parivar comes to power there is nobody else who can be CM. Also, Nitsh has his own followers among JDU MLAs - that was clear in Manjhi trust vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 This is an opportunistic alliance,so what matters most is who pulls more votes. Even though Nitish is good CM he doesn't have charisma to pull major vote banks. Another thiung is in Bihar Lalu family is more powerful so they dont have a place for another person. As i already wrote unless he is made CM candidate before election,he is done. I dont feel bad at all for his situation,his ego became bigger than him obviously he is facing the issues now. Huh??? He is the CM so he obviously will be the CM candidate - Lalu can't contest and the Janata Parivar doesn't have ANYONE of Nitish/Lalu's stature so Nitish will be the CM candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 Huh??? He is the CM so he obviously will be the CM candidate - Lalu can't contest and the Janata Parivar doesn't have ANYONE of Nitish/Lalu's stature so Nitish will be the CM candidate. We have to see...why will Lalu so easily give leadership to Nitish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 26, 2015 Share Posted April 26, 2015 We have to see...why will Lalu so easily give leadership to Nitish? Because he is debarred from contesting elections for 5 more years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Because he is debarred from contesting elections for 5 more years. Lalu may be debarred that doesn't means he will concedes the power so easily...we all know in politics not many people can control a state unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sachin=GOD Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Lalu may be debarred that doesn't means he will concedes the power so easily...we all know in politics not many people can control a state unit. And you think a guy who has been CM since 2005 will concede power to Lalu when he knows that Lalu can't contest and his sons/daughters/wife are no good at politics. Anyone who thinks Nitish is going to just give up power to Lalu/Mulayam in case of a Janata Parivar victory is just not seeing the political reality of there being no alternate. Just look what happened when they went with a rubber stamp CM in the form of Manjhi - after that experiment I found if they would go with anyone other than a tried and tested person like Nitish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 And you think a guy who has been CM since 2005 will concede power to Lalu when he knows that Lalu can't contest and his sons/daughters/wife are no good at politics. Anyone who thinks Nitish is going to just give up power to Lalu/Mulayam in case of a Janata Parivar victory is just not seeing the political reality of there being no alternate. Just look what happened when they went with a rubber stamp CM in the form of Manjhi - after that experiment I found if they would go with anyone other than a tried and tested person like Nitish. Its not about Nitish giving up,its about how much power Nitish really ahve...he became CM with help of BJP,no one knows how much he can win individually. Also if Nitish became CM what will happen to Lalu family? unless they have given enough power why they simply agree Nitish to dominate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G_B_ Posted April 27, 2015 Share Posted April 27, 2015 Looks like Deve Gowda wants a major role in national politics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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