philcric Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 I'm sort of confused whether the scorers got it wrong or there's something I'm not aware of. This happened just sometime back during the first over of Windies chase against SA. http://www.espncricinfo.com/south-africa-v-west-indies-2014-15/engine/match/722341.html 4 1wd 1nb 4 • 2nb 1 • • 0.6 Morkel to Gayle, no run, has a big swing at a full delivery, gets a thick inside edge into his boot which then rolls to the off side 0.5 Morkel to Gayle, no run, fuller on middle and off, defended 0.4 Morkel to Smith, 1 run, gives himself a touch of room, it's outside off and carved over point...the running isn't great 0.4 Morkel to Gayle, (no ball) 1 run, another no-ball, poor start from Morkel, it's short of a length outside off and sliced down to third man 0.3 Morkel to Gayle, no run, that's a lovely delivery, pushed across on off stump and it jags away from Gayle's edge, misses it by a mile in the end 0.2 Morkel to Gayle, FOUR, keeps it short, Gayle moves to leg and heaves away a pull which, although not cleanly timed, has the legs to beat deep square Gayle on strike for the free hit 0.2 Morkel to Smith, 1 no ball, picks him out! Straight to third man...but it's a no-ball! A let off for Smith as he upper cut this straight to Philander who barely had to move 0.2 Morkel to Smith, 1 wide, wide outside off, Smith chases it but doesn't make contact and Steve Davis stretches out his arms 0.1 Morkel to Smith, FOUR, boundary first up, back of a length delivery which Smith goes to pull and gets a bottom edge over the stumps and wide of the keeper The 2nd ball of the over. Smith got caught off a no-ball. Got to the other end during the catch and Gayle on strike to take the free hit. But only 1 run was added to the score (for the no-ball). Shouldn't it be 2 runs (1 for no-ball and 1 for the one they ran and changed ends)? Or if the run wasn't completed or something, shouldn't Smith be on strike?
Kalia_Test Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 A note on the Smith no-ball 'wicket': on review for front foot no ball, runs scored off the bat do not count if it is caught and it is a no ball
CSK Fan Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Might be a cricinfo error and they will correct. It should be 2 runs of that ball. But maybe batsmen didnt complete the run even though they might have crossed
philcric Posted January 18, 2015 Author Posted January 18, 2015 A note on the Smith no-ball 'wicket': on review for front foot no ball' date=' runs scored off the bat do not count if it is caught and it is a no ball[/quote'] Hmm interesting. But then in that case, it would make sense to have that same batsman on strike, no ?
Kalia_Test Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 Hmm interesting. But then in that case' date=' it would make sense to have that same batsman on strike, no ?[/quote'] Look at it this way. It was not a call made on the field but a check by third umpire. So the catcher nor fielders would even have attempted a run out so it makes sense to disallow runs of bat. However, if they had attempted a run out and took the bails out ( after the 'now not a catch', then the batsman would still be run out as you can be run out on a no ball ). Allowing change of ends while disallowing runs is the fair call if you take into account the above.
Kalia_Test Posted January 18, 2015 Posted January 18, 2015 ^^^ Of course what I wrote is applicable is only if it a catch and then a no ball review. Else, runs will be allowed. However, I don't think umpires go for third umpire no ball check unless it is an 'out'
philcric Posted January 18, 2015 Author Posted January 18, 2015 Yes that seems fair. Thanks for the explanation.
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