Trichromatic Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 And then even as this news comes, the pimps in the media drop in a little bit of propaganda... it seems it was on the behest of the yuvraj of Bharatvarsha, they decided to release Anna. Wow! Thank You, o mighty Rahul baba! Thank You, o mighty King-to-be! We are forever indebted to your sense of justice! Congress party won't miss any opportunity to project it's yuvraj. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gs Posted August 16, 2011 Share Posted August 16, 2011 Congress party won't miss any opportunity to project it's yuvraj. Yes, the BABA \../ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I think protests should go on against this government irrespective of the release of Anna Hazare. Is there anything going on in Bangalore? Protests planned near Freedom park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemist Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 It is complete irony that Congress is against some one following Gandhi principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulbul Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 It is complete irony that Congress is against some one following Gandhi principles. Just because Congress is ran by People have surnames Gandhi doesnt mean that they have to follow him.. these are fake gandhi's what do u expect from them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 So, MMS has spoken in Parliament. He said that Anna is trying to force Govt to bring Janlokpal Bill which is wrong. Extra drama : MMS left Lok Sabha immediately after giving his statement. Opposition criticized him by saying that PM should have remained there. When speaker allowed leader of opposition of present her views, member of UPA started protesting to the speaker about the permission given to opposition leader to speak. Huge drama scene erupted in Lok Sabha then. Advani was saying that it was first time in the history when one party questioned speaker's decision to allow someone to speak and this reminds him of emergency situation. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreud Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I feel sorry for Anna Hazare. He is fighting for the wrong country. + 1. Still though, Anna pretty much represents an idealistic society where 'elected representatives' are actually servants of democracy and not the other way round. Did anyone take part in the pro-Anna protests? Anyone from Mumbai who went to Azad Maidan? P.S: :cantstop: at those who voted for Rahul Gandhi & Co. ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaku Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Aaj mass bunk hai, to support anna :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 In comes that opportunist fecker Baba Ramdev to spoil all the hard work.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuge Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 WTF is ramdev doing . he should get lost . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreud Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 In comes that opportunist fecker Baba Ramdev to spoil all the hard work.. Ramdev is a joker and his 'inclusion' in this whole anti-corruption movement could be more of an impediment, but the upside is that he's got a lot of influence in the rural and small town areas. It could be some kind of a catalyst where a portion of rural India (which, interestingly, forms a bulk of the Congress vote share) wakes up to this whole mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 Ramdev is a joker and his 'inclusion' in this whole anti-corruption movement could be more of an impediment' date=' but the upside is that he's got a lot of influence in the rural and small town areas. It could be some kind of a catalyst where a portion of rural India (which, interestingly, forms a bulk of the Congress vote share) wakes up to this whole mess.[/quote'] Yeah but that'll give some 'straw' to Congress to cling on and 'blame the Right wing, RSS etc.' behind this whole campaign. The only way out for Congress now is to discredit this campaign by terming it a fascist, right-wing, Anti-Dalit KANSCPIRACY to divide the campaign on religion and caste lines.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreud Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Yeah but that'll give some 'straw' to Congress to cling on and 'blame the Right wing' date=' RSS etc.' behind this whole campaign. The only way out for Congress now is to discredit this campaign by terming it a fascist, right-wing, Anti-Dalit KANSCPIRACY to divide the campaign on religion and caste lines..[/quote'] They have already played that card with Hazare and Baba Ramdev a while ago and ended up :fail:ing and falling flat on their faces. No matter how low they'll stoop now or how often they'll be blowing the 'RSS/right wing' horn (which they will anytime soon, yet again), it's too late for them to try and save face. This whole movement is blurring the religious divide, and Rahul Gandhi's w**res know it. Even the RSS and its motley youth brigades have joined the movement, but people are not giving a faak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaku Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 More and more people coming out in support oh JLP bill.. nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaku Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Pleeeease no ramdev Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trichromatic Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Govt is trying it's best to divert the attention from original issue by questioning the movement itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinkfreud Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 Anyone familiar with Tavleen Singh's opinions on the Jan Lokpal issue? I really like her columns and respect her as a journo but I'm at a loss to understand why she's so opposed to Anna Hazare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijay.Sharma Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 It is again an "on the fence" issue for me. Jesus !! I am getting old. I used to be a left or right kind of person.. It is clearly defeating and subverting the fabric of democracy. It is challenging the 3 pillars of democracy. It is undermining the role of parliament. It is questioning the the choices of majority people who chose their representatives. It is creating another institution to guide the failed institutions rather than correcting the failed ones. However, it a necessity and its now or never. Does that make sense ?I respectfully disagree, sir. Yes, it seems undemocratic and disrespectful of the elected representatives. I am with you that one must not hold a government to ransom with such brinkmanship / fatalistic pursuance. However, I believe that in this particular case, our elected representatives have left us with no other option than to take such an extreme measure. Here is the thing, sir - when the elected representatives do not perform the jobs for which they have been elected by the people, then the people need to let them know that. Having to wait 5 years every time to let them know that they did not do what was expected of them is too little too late. We are a Sovereign Secular Socialist Democratic Republic. Being a Democracy allows every citizen to have a say in the running of the country. Being a Republic ensures that elected personnel discharge two kinds of duties: a) ensure the country's sovereignty, secularism, and socialism is maintained (this is a given for any MP/MLA). b) do good (or at least attempt to do good) on the reasons for which they have been elected i.e. their declared manifesto. As citizens we have the option of teaching them a lesson when they don't do the duties in 'b'. We can refuse to elect them again during the next election cycle. As for the duties in 'a' it is an implicit expectation that personnel working with/for the 3 pillars of our constitution: Judiciary, Executive, and Legislature uphold the spirit of sovereignty, secularism, and socialism. When the country is faced with a situation where repeated abuse of these pillars is common place, the citizens of the nation must rise up. It is a question of survival. Among the 3 pillars, only our Judiciary is to a certain extent untainted. But the other two pillars have been abused left, right, and center. What is devastating is that the abuse has crept into the system unchecked and has now become systemic. No system survives forever. Every system must evolve and change to become more robust and allow the citizens of the country to thrive in the system in an honorable way. 42 years is just a little too long a time to wait for our elected representatives to improve the system. If they are unable to improve the system even after consuming such a long duration of time then there is only one conclusion - our elected representatives are incapable of doing it. When elected representatives are incapable then citizens must rise. After all it is no longer a matter of stray isolated cases...it is now a matter of our survival as a sovereign secular socialist democratic republic. The Lokpal is a necessity (although not sufficient) if we as Indians want to survive as an SSSDR. I think we have reached a point where if we do not give ultimatums to the Govt and take such drastic measures then our very existence as an SSSDR will be compromised. We might continue to be a pseudo Democracy and a pseudo Republic and remain an SSSDR just on paper. We may not go down the way of Pakistan but we will not progress in the direction that our tryst with destiny set us on, either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vijay.Sharma Posted August 17, 2011 Share Posted August 17, 2011 I am just amazed at the response of the people. I still hold my doubts but the naive part of me just wants to bunk office and join tomorrow's protest. It is my country. It has to be the right country.:hatsoff: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asterix Posted August 17, 2011 Author Share Posted August 17, 2011 Why can't they do a Referendum on this isue of national importance? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Referendum Yes, they are "elected" representatives but on certain issues, they need to take the public's view too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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