MundaPakistani Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Bowling coach- Prasad. Fielding coach- R Singh. Analyst- Don't his name. Batting- 4 men with loads of experience. The least experienced one out of the 4 has as many as 84 test matches. Results have been quite good in the last 4 or 5 months so i don't see any need for Gary Kirsten or any one else.It seems to me that they are only getting a coach to make people happy and look professional. Link to comment
zubinpepsi Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 MP, we need a tough task master .. I dont how Robin singh his.. by having a head coach ,fiedling can b a focus.. like how it was during GC regime.. Link to comment
PaiN_KiLLeR Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 It seems to me that they are only getting a coach to make people happy and look professional. and for someone to blame if things dont go according to plan Link to comment
Bumper Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dravid quit as captain because he was doing the job of a headcoach & it was screwing his batting. I dont want another test captain to be a victim of that anymore. Link to comment
The Outsider Posted December 3, 2007 Share Posted December 3, 2007 We can do without a coach if we appoint a long term superb manager, but with the likes of Borde and Rajput doing a merry go round, we need a coach so that the captain can retain his sanity. Link to comment
Chandan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Ok Faisal, Who'll point to a player like Karthik in Australia, what adjustments does he need to make? How to tackle which bowler? In batting technicalities--if any flaw has crept up in his batting? Discussion of strategies and making plans--remember that the captain has to focus on his game too, to get his adjustments as well--against the opposition? Revision of plans after every session! We do need a head coach! Link to comment
Zap_Brannigan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Ok Faisal, Who'll point to a player like Karthik in Australia, what adjustments does he need to make? How to tackle which bowler? In batting technicalities--if any flaw has crept up in his batting? Discussion of strategies and making plans--remember that the captain has to focus on his game too, to get his adjustments as well--against the opposition? Revision of plans after every session! We do need a head coach! /Thread Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Good questions Chandan. Ok Faisal, Who'll point to a player like Karthik in Australia, what adjustments does he need to make? How to tackle which bowler? In batting technicalities--if any flaw has crept up in his batting? The senior batsmen who have played cricket for decades. Discussion of strategies and making plans--remember that the captain has to focus on his game too, to get his adjustments as well--against the opposition? Prasad can help out there. Revision of plans after every session! Once again Prasad can help out. It seems to me that you are underestimating the role of captain in cricket. In other sports like basketball, American football etc i can see how you have to be "told" what to do but in cricket the on field captain plays the biggest part and from what i have seen most good captains don't need/want outside interference. Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 /Thread < thread revived>:regular_smile: Link to comment
Chandan Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Good questions Chandan. The senior batsmen who have played cricket for decades. Senior batsmen have their own batting to worry about. At the most they can guide a youngster on field, not off field! Prasad can help out there. Once again Prasad can help out. Prasad to help in forming strategies? He has been a very average cricketer during his hey-days and being a bowling coach, I don't expect him to give anything other than inputs during bowling, forget about forming strategies. Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Senior batsmen have their own batting to worry about. At the most they can guide a youngster on field' date= not off field! at the top level all you need is a couple of tips here and there after that it is your job to work on the flaws e.g Imran learnt reverse swing and other bowling techniques from Sarfraz, Wasim and Waqar learnt from Imran, Shoaib got his tips from Wasim and now Gul/Asif learn from Shoaib. That is the advantage of having experienced players in your team. Prasad to help in forming strategies? He has been a very average cricketer during his hey-days and being a bowling coach, I don't expect him to give anything other than inputs during bowling, forget about forming strategies. Why can't he do that? When the team is on the field and bowlers are bowling isn't it his job to analyze the bowlers and look to see where they are making mistakes and what kind of field will be right for a certain bowler against a certain batsman? Doesn't if he was an average cricketer or not...just because you were a great player doesn't mean that you will automatically become a great coach. On cricket field obviously the captain is the boss but he would need help from a specialist off the field. Plus handling the players, keeping them in discipline etc has to be done by the coach, not the captain, because he has to take care of himself, recover for the next day, think about the game and so many other things! Not really. I think it is captain's job. You can't simply isolate yourself off the field. Link to comment
Bumper Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Munda, why does Pakistan have a coach ? You guys have been continuously losing everything since Lawson took over, havent you ? Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Other countries incl Aus, SA, Pak need coaches. But we ask why India needs a coach? Link to comment
Chaos Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Munda' date=' why does Pakistan have a coach ? You guys have been continuously losing everything since Lawson took over, havent you ?[/quote'] :hysterical::hysterical: Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Munda' date=' why does Pakistan have a coach ? You guys have been continuously losing [b']everything since Lawson took over, havent you ? Not really because they were losing even before Lawson took over:D Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Other countries incl Aus' date=' SA, Pak need coaches. But we ask why India needs a coach?[/quote'] AUS don't need a head coach either. All they need is a bowling coach like Prasad. Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Are they (Aus) fools to have a head coach then? They sure see a good reason Faisal. Even if they are wasting time n money on headcoach, are India at Aussie level in cricket? Link to comment
MundaPakistani Posted December 4, 2007 Author Share Posted December 4, 2007 Are they (Aus) fools to have a head coach then? They sure see a good reason Faisal. Even if they are wasting time n money on headcoach, are India at Aussie level in cricket? Having a head coach is just a part of cricketing culture these days FL. Don't think he makes too much of a difference at the highest level of the game. IND might not be at the same level as AUS but their team structure is the same i.e experienced batsmen and inexperienced fast bowlers. Link to comment
Shehezaada Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 Senior batsmen have their own batting to worry about. At the most they can guide a youngster on field' date= not off field! Prasad to help in forming strategies? He has been a very average cricketer during his hey-days and being a bowling coach, I don't expect him to give anything other than inputs during bowling, forget about forming strategies. On cricket field obviously the captain is the boss but he would need help from a specialist off the field. Plus handling the players, keeping them in discipline etc has to be done by the coach, not the captain, because he has to take care of himself, recover for the next day, think about the game and so many other things! Link to comment
fineleg Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 as MP says it's not like a Tendulkar will spend the entire day with a junior batsmen and then not work on his own problems. Batting is not a full time job...going to the office, and coming back. Batting is just about practice every single day...why cant a senior batsmen spare 15 minutes for a junior? He may - but he need not. Thats not part of his job requirement. His requirement as a batsman is to bat well and score runs. If he helps out a junior, well and good. But it is not compulsory. Huge difference. But a coach's job is to do that. He can be held accountable for it(well he should be held accountable atleast). You cannot hold a senior batsman "accountable" for someone else. Link to comment
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