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The next time you are bent on taking totally unprovoked potshots like that on another poster, I can guarantee you your posts will either be deleted or edited. Debate the point, not the poster. One of the biggest guiding posts as far as moderation is concerned is 'Absolutely NO personal abuse/small talk'. Now, you or me may not like what BB, DR or Sandtest write, but they certainly dont go around abusing or 'exposing' people, like you're wont to do. If you're not willing to fall in line what minimum decoquorum of debating, then dont cry foul if what you typed no longer exist out there.
harsh... considering the stuff i say with impunity. heck i m the proverbial loudmouth, back bencher who hurls rotten vegetables and spit balls at the rest of the classroom. i think CC is keeping it 'real'... he was talking about the whole notion of eradicating only one religion while persisting with the rest.
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who gives a damn what Arundhati roy says.... I say encounter her and call it an accident.
unfortunately, texides bhai, you will be ridiculed here, because western educated Indians will happily ignore what their own western country does with traitors, but when it comes to India they will be happy advocating to live with traitors but any call for punishing such scums will not suit their lust for "morality" preaching. I just can't imagine that this Arubdirty Roy was busy lighting and kising candles when Lt. Kalia's body with all his limbs chopped off by Paki army was handed over to India during Kargil. And yet we have folks here full of praise for her beacuse she can write some article in magazines which suits their p-sec lust for pseudo-morality.
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unfortunately' date= texides bhai, you will be ridiculed here, because western educated Indians will happily ignore what their own western country does with traitors, but when it comes to India they will be happy advocating to live with traitors but any call for punishing such scums will not suit their lust for "morality" preaching. I just can't imagine that this Arubdirty Roy was busy lighting and kising candles when Lt. Kalia's body with all his limbs chopped off by Paki army was handed over to India during Kargil. And yet we have folks here full of praise for her beacuse she can write some article in magazines which suits their p-sec lust for pseudo-morality.
a) Tex1des is a J@ck@ass who shows his "mardangi" by calling some one else to do kill a person. If he really feels so strongly about his nation(most likely he is a NRI) I suggest he should take the first flight to India, then send a note to Indian TV channels that he is going to shoot Arundhati and do the honours. I suspect he doesnt have a fraction of courage he is "portrayin" to have. b) He gets support of j@ck@sses like you who thinks what he is saying is correct without realizing that idiots like him will be the first to escape outside India and leave Indians to solve their own effing mess, even if it is he who would have created it. Learn to seperate smartness from idiocy. And while you are at it learn to seperate genuine criticism from Western educated/Psec/Commie and all the other bajaa that you bajao every other hour. xxx
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I have few friends from the school (originally corpus christi now pallikoodam) that Arundhati roy's mum runs' date=' and even if 10% of what they say about their school and its policies are true she is a great individual who does a lot for the needy. I would not be so quick to paint her as a fundamentalist.[/quote'] triam, ignore CCs ad-hominem presonal attack on me, he can't write a sentence without "You" and "I" kind of personal mentions. Now coming back to your point, it's good to know that you are from Kerala and giving first hand info. Well, there is a DIFFERENCE bewteen Islamic dawah for conversion and Christian-Evangelical preaching for converting pagans, forest dwellers and Indian schedule caste heathens. In India Chrstian misionaries are well funded by foreign NGOs and western governament grants. Agreed they do a lot of work for upliftment of those poor people in tribal areas, BUT there main intention along with opening school, providing food for poors is to HAND OVER a COPY OF BIBLE or some small reference material on how to come closer to Jesus. Christain missionaries do not get notice because, unlike Islamists they are mostly non-violent. They operate in pretty subtle way. But the main intention is neverthless to create a Christain critical mass which can be rules as "Kingdom of Christ" where Chrsit is King etc. The best example is Nagaland in North-East Indian state. If you have know, then during formation of Indian state, Nagaland was mainly a tribal area with local NAGAS having their own culture and tradition pretty similiar to Indic. But due to Congress's blind eye towards missionaries in India, nagaland saw, thousands of missionaries engaged in "charity" with massive conversion. TODAY Nagaland is a Christian Majority state and an Indian can't even enter there because demand for seperate country where Christ is King is ever increasing. IMO, it is no different than Islamists demand for seperate state.
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a) Tex1des is a J@ck@ass who shows his "mardangi" by calling some one else to do kill a person. If he really feels so strongly about his nation(most likely he is a NRI) I suggest he should take the first flight to India, then send a note to Indian TV channels that he is going to shoot Arundhati and do the honours. I suspect he doesnt have a fraction of courage he is "portrayin" to have. b) He gets support of j@ck@sses like you who thinks what he is saying is correct without realizing that idiots like him will be the first to escape outside India and leave Indians to solve their own effing mess, even if it is he who would have created it. Learn to seperate smartness from idiocy. And while you are at it learn to seperate genuine criticism from Western educated/Psec/Commie and all the other bajaa that you bajao every other hour. xxx
There is nothing more idiotic than not supporting National unity and India's territorial integrity by Indians themselves. As I asid, it is nothing but an attempt to satisfy some intellectuals lust for pseudo-morality even if it costs countries existence. We have folks right here like CC who live in Utopia land where they can preach No-Borders and No country theory, what we can say about loss of all practical sense of logic from such people here?
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All developed western countries have practiced assasination of those people whom they feel are danger to integrity/ harm to wider national interests. There are many accidents/shootings have happened in west, I am wondering people who have lived in west never notice these before, and just jumped upon Texides man for his comments, which was just out of sheer frustration. Fact that Texides is himself a Bengali, it is more frustrating for him to see fellow Bengali engaged in treacherous activities for some 'western' award and praise. I will happily embrace Nationalist Bengali folks like Texides anyday than those marxists commies.

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All developed western countries have practiced assasination of those people whom they feel are danger to integrity/ harm to wider national interests.
Yes and these countries were smarter than you and this joke of a poster to makes stupid comments on a website. I would repeat what I said before - if this lad is so into India and against Arundhati let him practise what he preaches.
There are many accidents/shootings have happened in west, I am wondering people who have lived in west never notice these before,
Give examples.
and just jumped upon Texides man for his comments, which was just out of sheer frustration.
His frustration will land this website and its owners behind bars. Who is going to pay for that? He or YOU? Lets make that crystal clear first of all.
Fact that Texides is himself a Bengali, it is more frustrating for him to see fellow Bengali engaged in treacherous activities for some 'western' award and praise.
Who the eff cares if he is Bengali, Bihari or whatever else? Why do you have to be such a regionalist? Just because he is a Bengali it is okay to call for killing Arundhati Roy?? Seriously how weird is your logic?
I will happily embrace Nationalist Bengali folks like Texides anyday than those marxists commies.
Irrelevant, as usual. Reminds me of how a poster(Triam) talks about Arundhati's Mom's schools and you write an entire thesis on Nagaland and Islamic Dawah yada yada. I bet you have little clue about Arundhati's moms schools but as usual are filled with paranoia.
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There is nothing more idiotic than not supporting National unity and India's territorial integrity by Indians themselves. As I asid, it is nothing but an attempt to satisfy some intellectuals lust for pseudo-morality even if it costs countries existence.
Who here is not supporting country unity? Name me 1 person here who has opposed India. Please show me some truth to your argument. All that people here have said is point holes in an idiotic post by a pseudo-courageous fellow. How is that going against National Unity?
We have folks right here like CC who live in Utopia land where they can preach No-Borders and No country theory, what we can say about loss of all practical sense of logic from such people here?
And what makes you think I will even bother about that line?? You have issues with CC, take it with him. xxx
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Yes and these countries were smarter than you.
Exactly they have been smarter that is why they keep assassination as an option OPEN, instead we dumb Indians ready to join pseudo-morality bandwagon with no care for territorial integrity of Bharat as a nation.
this joke of a poster to makes stupid comments on a website. I would repeat what I said before - if this lad is so into India and against Arundhati let him practise what he preaches.
I will not call someone as a joke of a poster, let this practice of ad-hominem, personal attack be limited till CC. As said, it could have been due to sheer frustration after reading treacherous folks like Arundirty who thrive on such opportinities. and mind you, this Arundirty has a good past record of thriving on such incidents -- She has said in past that Parliament attack on India was planned by Vajpayee government so that her so called evil Hindutva BJP can malign her beloved Paki brothers. Moreover, she has condemned India's Nuclear tests. such opportunist writers like Arundirty need to be condemned with strongest words if not expelled from our country. I am yet to see any condemnation from noted "sikoolarists" of ICF.
Give examples.
I am sure there will be many...those who follow intelligence related matters more closely can give many examples. As far as i remember from top of my head, political assassination has been an ancient practice. Right from Sun Tsu's art of wwar, till Chankaya Arthashastra and Machiavellian doctrines all justify assassination if it poses danger to national integrity/security of kingdom, nation. Right from Julius caesar, till certain Irish rebel leaders of ireland have been killed/accidents happened. I can only rememebr a Martin Luther King and an attempt on Ronald Reagan.' Also there is a lot of documents available on 3-4 CIA attempts on life of Cuban commie nutjob Fidel Castro simply because he was a threat for security of America.
His frustration will land this website and its owners behind bars. Who is going to pay for that? He or YOU? Lets make that crystal clear first of all.
Nothing but fear mongering in p-sec way:--D Well I don't think such out of frustration statements will draw more than 3 seconds attention from NSA or any surveillance agency which monitors internet. Those folks know how to seperate from genuine and just out of anger statement.
Who the eff cares if he is Bengali, Bihari or whatever else? Why do you have to be such a regionalist? Just because he is a Bengali it is okay to call for killing Arundhati Roy?? Seriously how weird is your logic?
I am not a regionalist, but I merely pointed out the sense of OWNERSHIP. Texides is a bengali doesnot mean I am peddling regionalism. If tomorrow a loony Mullayam or Lalu from UP-Bihar demand for a seperate state based on Bhojpuri-Hindi language or give statements supporting seccesion of Kashmir, I will feel more pain and anger than anyone else, because it puts on shame entire UP-Bihar poeple which also includes many patriotic who want integrity of India as a nation.
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Irrelevant, as usual. Reminds me of how a poster(Triam) talks about Arundhati's Mom's schools and you write an entire thesis on Nagaland and Islamic Dawah yada yada. I bet you have little clue about Arundhati's moms schools but as usual are filled with paranoia.
Then I am afraid you and perhaps Triam saab, missed my point. first of all, I just provided a background info. of Arundhati Roy by pointing her maternal background and relations with Commies like Karat through Pronoy Roy. and this was to leave people make their own conclusion, since our politically correct media hardly provides the background of any person. It amazes me that in a HIGHLY developed country like USA any person if he wants to become President has to announce at least ten times that HE IS A CHRISTIAN WITH CHRIST BELIEVING FAMILY and rightly so, because america wants that their highest job man is from within their traditions so that they don't end up destroying their own culture/rich traditions unlike we Indians who will happily shoot on our foot. In India asking for religion/belief of a person is abhorrent and ridiculed by p-secs as communals!!...talk about national interests.
and you write an entire thesis on Nagaland and Islamic Dawah yada yada
becuase it is a more important issue than a certain 2-bit leftist like Arundirty. nagaland is an example today where christains gained a critical mass PURELY by conversion. and yet so called grassroot Indians like you afford to ignore this. Moreover, why you need to go Nagaland, just look at your neighborhood in Chattisgarh and see how many missionaries are operating there, and voila there is masive Naxalite funding too..sniff sniff:giggle:
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Exactly they have been smarter that is why they keep assassination as an option OPEN' date=' instead [b']we dumb Indians ready to join pseudo-morality bandwagon with no care for territorial integrity of Bharat as a nation.
I shall remove myself from that WE. Congratulations for accepting your dumbness! :hysterical:
I am yet to see any condemnation from noted "sikoolarists" of ICF.
Yes and I am sure they are dying to prove their "Secularism" to YOU. :giggle:
As far as i remember from top of my head, political assassination has been an ancient practice. Right from Sun Tsu's art of wwar, till Chankaya Arthashastra and Machiavellian doctrines all justify assassination if it poses danger to national integrity/security of kingdom, nation.
Hahaha..So you talk of modern West and then give me example of Sun Tsu?? Thanks for the laughs. And if you do have a moment think hard as to why advocating killing of a writer is the same as Political Assasination?? I am sure you will fall short but make the effort nonethless.
Well I don't think such out of frustration statements will draw more than 3 seconds attention from NSA or any surveillance agency which monitors internet. Those folks know how to seperate from genuine and just out of anger statement.
NSA or not, if ICF lands in a legal hassle would YOU take care of expenses. Yes/No shall suffice? If Yes then start by sending your address, bank account information etc to MODS. If NO then please keep shut.
Texides is a bengali doesnot mean I am peddling regionalism. If tomorrow a loony Mullayam or Lalu from UP-Bihar demand for a seperate state based on Bhojpuri-Hindi language or give statements supporting seccesion of Kashmir, I will feel more pain and anger than anyone else, because it puts on shame entire UP-Bihar poeple which also includes many patriotic who want integrity of India as a nation.
Dont try to spin it. This is what you wrote - Fact that Texides is himself a Bengali, it is more frustrating for him to see fellow Bengali engaged in treacherous activities for some 'western' award and praise. So if this joke of a poster is Bengali, that lends EXTRA credit to his argument?? Why am I not surprised with that ridiculous regionalistic line from a bhagwa brigade loony. Reality check, his assertion is no different from yours or mine. Get it?
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Then I am afraid you and perhaps Triam saab, missed my point. first of all, I just provided a background info. of Arundhati Roy by pointing her maternal background and relations with Commies like Karat through Pronoy Roy. and this was to leave people make their own conclusion, since our politically correct media hardly provides the background of any person.
Bakwaas. If you have issues with schools opened by Arundhati Roy's mom please give EXPLICIT information of what wrong THESE schools have done. Dont give me some odd Ramkahani and try to suggest what is completely irrelevant.
It amazes me that in a HIGHLY developed country like USA any person if he wants to become President has to announce at least ten times that HE IS A CHRISTIAN WITH CHRIST BELIEVING FAMILY and rightly so, because america wants that their highest job man is from within their traditions so that they don't end up destroying their own culture/rich traditions unlike we Indians who will happily shoot on our foot.
Hain? So you are amazed and at the same time you beleive it is the right thing to do! So what are you amazed at?? As for USA doing this lay out your argument specifically so I know what is your issue with this.
In India asking for religion/belief of a person is abhorrent and ridiculed by p-secs as communals!!...talk becuase it is a more important issue than a certain 2-bit leftist like Arundirty. nagaland is an example today where christains gained a critical mass PURELY by conversion. and yet so called grassroot Indians like you afford to ignore this. Moreover, why you need to go Nagaland, just look at your neighborhood in Chattisgarh and see how many missionaries are operating there, and voila there is masive Naxalite funding too..sniff sniff:giggle:
Yes yes carry on that rant. Nothing relevant to the topic so Iam not wasting my breath. xxx
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Sandtest, Iam not from Kerala, but Tamilnadu, although a lot of my friends are from Kerala, it doesnt matter what the ulterior motive of any christian is ( fact is no one can generalize every christian), all I know about the school is it does more than to art, culture and social issues at grass root levels than any other organization I know of, examples of that include PRomoting Indian arts like bharata natyam, kathakali, kathak to a bigg extent (A true christian fanatic will not support these and consider it barbaric) The school students are supposed to go to villages and stage dramas etc about social issues like dowry problems, pollution etc. If through all this Mary roy (Arundhati's mom) converts some hindus to christians, so be it, the Cost Benefit analysis to INDIA is worth it, maybe not worth it to Hinduism but to India it is. The cost being increase in number of christians in India and the benefit being a whole generation of kids growing up with a good social outlook and tackling them in real world. Check out their website http://pallikoodam.org/ if you are interested in what I said about the school.

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Exactly they have been smarter that is why they keep assassination as an option OPEN, instead we dumb Indians ready to join pseudo-morality bandwagon with no care for territorial integrity of Bharat as a nation. I will not call someone as a joke of a poster, let this practice of ad-hominem, personal attack be limited till CC. As said, it could have been due to sheer frustration after reading treacherous folks like Arundirty who thrive on such opportinities. and mind you, this Arundirty has a good past record of thriving on such incidents -- She has said in past that Parliament attack on India was planned by Vajpayee government so that her so called evil Hindutva BJP can malign her beloved Paki brothers. Moreover, she has condemned India's Nuclear tests. such opportunist writers like Arundirty need to be condemned with strongest words if not expelled from our country. I am yet to see any condemnation from noted "sikoolarists" of ICF. I am sure there will be many...those who follow intelligence related matters more closely can give many examples. As far as i remember from top of my head, political assassination has been an ancient practice. Right from Sun Tsu's art of wwar, till Chankaya Arthashastra and Machiavellian doctrines all justify assassination if it poses danger to national integrity/security of kingdom, nation. Right from Julius caesar, till certain Irish rebel leaders of ireland have been killed/accidents happened. I can only rememebr a Martin Luther King and an attempt on Ronald Reagan.' Also there is a lot of documents available on 3-4 CIA attempts on life of Cuban commie nutjob Fidel Castro simply because he was a threat for security of America. Nothing but fear mongering in p-sec way:--D Well I don't think such out of frustration statements will draw more than 3 seconds attention from NSA or any surveillance agency which monitors internet. Those folks know how to seperate from genuine and just out of anger statement. I am not a regionalist, but I merely pointed out the sense of OWNERSHIP. Texides is a bengali doesnot mean I am peddling regionalism. If tomorrow a loony Mullayam or Lalu from UP-Bihar demand for a seperate state based on Bhojpuri-Hindi language or give statements supporting seccesion of Kashmir, I will feel more pain and anger than anyone else, because it puts on shame entire UP-Bihar poeple which also includes many patriotic who want integrity of India as a nation.
Are you intimating that Kennedy and MLK's assasination were state sponsored events? Fidel Castro is/was never an american citizen, no American citizen will be targetted by the american government in a covert assasination plan (forget the conspiracy theories), and America is/was heavily criticized for the Fidel fiasco and rightfully so.
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If only Arundhati would quit India http://dailypioneer.com/columnist1.asp?main_variable=Columnist&file_name=kanchan%2Fkanchan194%2Etxt&writer=kanchan If only Arundhati would quit India There can be nothing more pathetic than a middle-aged 'radical' preaching treason and penning seditious pamphlets. As a friend, who spent his 20s fighting for lost causes and getting beaten up by the police before being frog-marched to Kolkata's Lalbazar lock-up on more than one occasion and has since settled down to a life of affluence in the US, pointed out, people with spreading midriffs and receding hairlines do not make a pretty sight while manning the barricades. Regis Debray participated in the 'revolution in the revolution' and then joined the establishment. Daniel Marc Cohn-Bendit, better known as 'Danny the Red' and a hero of the summer of 1968, now heads a group of loopy Greens in the European Parliament. Tariq Ali, he who breathed fire and brimstone every time he opened his mouth, leads the occasional march against America in London and writes ponderous articles for The Guardian which are dutifully read by the street-fighting generation. So, you see, my friend said, pouring himself an extra large measure of single malt, it's best you leave dissent to the young for whom being on the Left is as fashionable as wearing Prada. That conversation, which took place on a winter evening at his suburban home in Los Angeles a couple of years ago, came to mind as I read about Arundhati Roy's seditious comments after attending a rally organised by Muslim separatists of the Kashmir Valley on August 19. She was clearly impressed by the turnout, as were Mohammed Ali Jinnah and his cohorts when they saw the first train carrying future Pakistanis trundling into what was supposed to be the 'land of the pure' but has turned out to be a sinful Jihadistan. Jinnah, the 'sole spokesman', and his Muslim League were equally delighted by the bloodletting on Direct Action Day, August 16, 1946, and held it up as evidence of the impossibility of Muslims cohabiting with Hindus in Hindustan. Six decades later, more Muslims live peacefully with Hindus in Hindustan than Muslims live with Muslims in Pakistan. But we digress. "If no one is listening then it is because they don't want to hear. Because this is a referendum," Arundhati Roy told mediapersons after the rally, "People don't need anyone to represent them, they are representing themselves." She then went on to assert with a flourish, "India needs azadi from Kashmir as much as Kashmir needs azadi from India." There is understandable anger over her remarks, although the Congress need not have tried to distance itself from Arundhati Roy's new age sedition: It's the appalling denigration of nationalism and faith in the nation, which the Congress unabashedly indulges in to proclaim its 'secular' credentials, that encourages Arundhati Roy and her tribe to ridicule India, repudiate our national identity and revile our democracy. Curiously, it's rather strange that having declared some years ago that she was "seceding from India", Arundhati Roy continues to foul this land for which she has nothing but contempt. Or else she would not have used her invitation to a book-reading session in the US to declare that "there is no democracy in India". A pity. If only we were not democratic to a fault with a quisling for Prime Minister and a dissolute Congress in power, Arundhati Roy would have been hauled up under the Unlawful Activities (Prevention) Act of 1967, amended in 2004-05. The Act says, "Secession of a part of the territory of India from the Union includes the assertion of any claim to determine whether such part will remain a part of the territory of India." The offences listed under this law include any assertion or statement "which is intended, or supports any claim, to bring about, on any ground whatsoever, the cession of a part of the territory of India or the secession of a part of the territory of India from the Union, or which incites any individual or group of individuals to bring about such cession or secession". Since Arundhati Roy has not denied having said what has been attributed to her by the media, she should be prosecuted. Others have landed behind bars under the same law for having said and/or done stuff that pales into insignificance when compared to her latest call for treason. The law, we are told every now and then, applies equally to all. But as George Orwell was to demonstrate, while all animals are equal, some are more equal than others. So, she gets away with no more than a wimp of a response from our political class. Page Three familiarity helps beat the system in this wondrous land of ours. Another way of looking at Arundhati Roy's treachery would be to feel sorry for her. As I said earlier, there's nothing more pathetic than a middle-aged 'radical' trying to grab space in newspapers and time on television, courtesy dumb journalists and starry-eyed anchors. But Arundhati Roy is not alone in perverting the truth about Jammu & Kashmir. On August 20, Hindustan Times carried an asinine article written by Rajmohan Gandhi, defending the indefensible. In normal times, there would have been no cause to respond to Rajmohan Gandhi's article, 'Lal before the storm'; the rant of someone who has monopolised the market for charming though inconsequential tales from the life of a certain Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi does not really merit serious comment. But these are not normal times. Hence, Mr Gandhi's sly innuendoes and his attempt to peddle the same old bunkum about Jammu & Kashmir needs to be contested, if only to show that it is he who has indulged in half-truths and non-truths to provide oxygen to the fire raging in the Kashmir Valley. It is obvious that Mr Gandhi has either not bothered to read the full text of Mr LK Advani's letter to the Prime Minister, written on August 13, or, having read it, he decided to ignore its thrust and contents to serve his own perverse agenda. Mr Advani says in his letter, "Let it be clearly understood. The problem in J&K today is not Hindu versus Muslim; nor is it even Jammu region versus the Valley." Having said this, Mr Advani contextualises the problem as a clash between 'nationalists' and 'separatists'. Mr Gandhi contests this view. Surely Mr Gandhi does not believe that the hordes of Kashmiri Muslims -- actually, tens of thousands of them -- who tried to march to Muzaffarabad, waving the Pakistani flag and holding aloft placards with Jinnah's portrait, are 'nationalists' whose hearts beat for India? The use of the national tricolour by the protesters in Jammu to declare their loyalty to India must be seen against the green-and-white-and-crescent backdrop of separatism in the Valley.

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If only you would quit...
usual moronic entry has come now people can get back to serious debate
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If only Arundhati would quit India ...............
Actually she is useful as a personification of the true intentions of the communist, pseudosecular mafia of the country. The more she vomits nonsense the more it will make people the true agenda of the Congress, communists etc. The BJP should openly demand that she be prosecuted for her comments and hold up the Congress's inability to do so as a proof of the Congress's complicity in propping up these anti-national clowns.
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Actually she is useful as a personification of the true intentions of the communist, pseudosecular mafia of the country. The more she vomits nonsense the more it will make people the true agenda of the Congress, communists etc. The BJP should openly demand that she be prosecuted for her comments and hold up the Congress's inability to do so as a proof of the Congress's complicity in propping up these anti-national clowns.
Well said!
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